The Micromobility Podcast

Micromobility Industries

Welcome to Micromobility, a podcast exploring the disruption that comes from new lightweight utility vehicles. Using the history of computing as a framework, we unpack what business models and impacts we’re likely to see in transport in cities.

  1. Oct 12

    How the Netherlands Became the Cycling Capital of the World | Chris Bruntlett

    The Netherlands has more bicycles than people, 40,000 kilometers of cycling infrastructure, and a cycling culture that has become the envy of cities around the world. But it wasn't always this way. In this episode of The Micromobility Podcast (#268), Prabin Joel Jones sits down with Chris Bruntlett, International Relations Manager at the Dutch Cycling Embassy, to explore how the Netherlands transformed itself from a car-centric country into the cycling capital of the world. Chris explains how a road safety crisis in the 1970s sparked a transformation, why early cycling infrastructure projects failed, and how the Dutch discovered that building connected networks matters more than individual bike lanes. The conversation also explores the rise of e-bikes, the controversy surrounding fat bikes, the challenges facing speed pedelecs, and why shared micromobility has struggled to gain traction in a country where almost everyone owns a bicycle. We also discuss what American cities can learn from the Netherlands, including how Austin, Texas, has developed nearly 700 kilometers of cycling infrastructure inspired by Dutch design principles. In this episode: How the Netherlands became a cycling nationWhy building bike lanes alone doesn't increase cyclingThe role of children and road safety in transforming Dutch streetsThe health and economic benefits of cyclingWhy Dutch households still own carsHow e-bikes are reshaping cycling infrastructureThe fat-bike controversy in the NetherlandsWhy speed pedelecs haven't gained widespread adoptionThe untapped potential of shared bikes and e-bikesHow Austin is applying Dutch cycling principlesWhat policymakers can learn from 50 years of Dutch experienceAbout Chris Bruntlett Chris Bruntlett is the International Relations Manager at the Dutch Cycling Embassy, an organization supported by the Dutch government that helps cities worldwide learn from the Netherlands' experience in building safer, more accessible, and more bicycle-friendly communities. About The Micromobility Podcast The Micromobility Podcast explores the people, companies, technologies, and policies shaping the future of urban transportation. Learn more: https://micromobility.io/ Dutch Cycling Embassy: https://dutchcycling.nl/ #Micromobility #Cycling #Netherlands #DutchCycling #EBikes #UrbanMobility

    How the Netherlands Became the Cycling Capital of the World | Chris Bruntlett
  2. Oct 5

    Seattle's Shared Micromobility Boom - Kim Pearson, Seattle DoT

    Seattle has quietly become one of America’s biggest shared micromobility success stories. In 2021, the city recorded roughly 2.3 million shared micromobility trips. By 2025, that had grown to 10.53 million trips, with another ~20% growth underway in 2026. In this episode of the Micromobility Podcast, Prabin Joel Jones speaks with Kim Pearson, Shared Mobility Program Manager at the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT), about what Seattle did differently—and what other cities can learn from it. They unpack the city’s journey from becoming the first U.S. city to launch free-floating bike share in 2017 to today’s large-scale bike and scooter network. Kim explains why protected bike infrastructure has probably been the single biggest driver of growth, alongside reliable vehicle availability, equity requirements, reduced fares, transit integration, and new vehicle formats such as seated scooters. The conversation also covers Seattle’s reduced-fare program—which generated more than one million trips in 2025—the rapid adoption of seated scooters, performance-based fleet caps, Seattle’s hybrid approach to parking corrals, and how micromobility helped move tens of thousands of people during the World Cup. If you work in cities, transportation, shared mobility, bike share, scooters, or urban planning, this is a detailed look at how a city can turn micromobility from a pilot program into a meaningful part of its transportation system. Guest: Kim Pearson, Shared Mobility Program Manager, Seattle Department of TransportationHost: Prabin Joel Jones, CEO, Micromobility Industries

    Seattle's Shared Micromobility Boom - Kim Pearson, Seattle DoT
  3. Sep 7

    Fireside chat with Christian Springhub - Co-Founder & CEO, Dance

    Recorded live at Micromobility Europe 2026 in Berlin, this fireside chat features Christian Springub, Co-Founder & CEO of Dance, discussing the journey of building one of Europe’s most recognizable e-bike subscription companies — and the road that ultimately led to Dance joining forces with Swapfiets. Coming from a software and tech background, Christian and his co-founders set out to build something tangible: a premium e-bike subscription service with its own custom hardware, software stack, logistics, warehouses, mechanics and repair operations. That journey turned out to be far harder than expected. Christian shares what he learned about moving from software to hardware, why Dance customized too much of its first-generation bike, the enormous cost of making mistakes once hardware is already on the road, and why hardware companies need to grow very differently from traditional software startups. We also dig into the decisions that helped make Dance stand out: its distinctive bike design and prism colour, its obsessive attention to branding, its premium positioning, its influencer strategy, and the factors that made Paris one of its strongest markets. Christian also reflects on fundraising roughly €60 million across debt and equity, the consequences of scaling too quickly during the COVID-era funding boom, why he no longer sees businesses like Dance as traditional venture-capital businesses, and why profitability and strategic backing matter so much in asset-heavy mobility. Finally, we discuss the acquisition by Swapfiets, what brought two longtime “frenemies” together, the complexity of restructuring debt to complete the transaction, and Christian’s advice to founders building hardware companies today. Recorded at Micromobility Europe 2026, Berlin.

    Fireside chat with Christian Springhub - Co-Founder & CEO, Dance
  4. Aug 31

    MaaS 101 with Sampo Hietanen

    What is Mobility as a Service, and can it really replace the convenience of owning a car? On this episode of the Micromobility Podcast, hosted by Prabin Joel Jones, CEO of Micromobility Industries, Sampo Hietanen, widely credited with coining the term Mobility as a Service (MaaS), takes us through nearly two decades of thinking, building, experimenting and learning about the future of mobility. From developing the original MaaS concept in 2006 to founding MaaS Global and launching Whim, Hietanen has seen both the promise and challenges of creating a seamless alternative to car ownership. In this conversation, he shares what MaaS was originally designed to solve, why the car is the real competitor, and what building Whim taught him about convenience, subscriptions and user experience. The conversation also explores how AI could change the way people interact with mobility, moving us beyond apps and toward services that simply understand where we need to go and how we prefer to get there. Today, through his work at Swavia, Hietanen is also exploring another evolution of the idea — Mobility as a Feature, where mobility becomes part of products and services such as real estate and retail rather than a standalone product. In this episode Why the real competitor to MaaS is car ownershipHow the original MaaS concept started in 2006What Mobility as a Service actually meansThe lessons from building WhimWhy subscriptions could unlock the potential of MaaSWhy convenience matters more than mobility ideologyHow AI agents could transform the mobility experienceWhy mobility could become a feature of real estate and other productsWhat the future of car ownership could look like

    MaaS 101 with Sampo Hietanen
  5. Aug 24

    Ex-Stromer CEO is building a Hyperbike - Tomi Viiala, Founder Viiala

    In this episode of the Micromobility Podcast, Prabin Joel Jones sits down with Tomi Viiala, former CEO of Stromer, to talk about building one of the most distinctive premium e-bike brands in the world and his next, far more ambitious project: Viiala. Tomi spent more than a decade at Stromer, helping take the Swiss speed-pedelec company from startup to an international brand operating across 25 countries. During that journey, Stromer pushed e-bike pricing from around €5,000 into the €10,000+ range, pioneered connected bikes, and built an unusually loyal community around the riding experience rather than individual components. We discuss why Stromer succeeded in creating a premium category, why Belgium became one of the world's strongest markets for speed pedelecs, why Germany has struggled to achieve the same adoption, and what Tomi learned about brand, pricing, distribution, product quality and protecting resale value. Then we get into what comes next. Together with former Audemars Piguet CEO François-Henry Bennahmias, Tomi is building Viiala, a new company developing what it calls a hyperbike. The first bike is expected to start at around €30,000, with a new motor system, battery technology, advanced electronics, V2X connectivity, integrated safety systems and a connected helmet ecosystem. Rather than designing a bike to hit a predetermined price point, the team is taking the opposite approach: engineer the system they want first and determine the price afterwards. Viiala also plans to source around 90% of its components from Europe, manufacture its carbon frames in Slovakia, assemble the bikes in Europe and initially produce only around 300–500 units of its first hyperbike. We talk about: • How Stromer created a cult following around speed pedelecs• Why getting customers on a test ride was more important than talking about price• Building a brand instead of selling Shimano, Bosch or other component specifications• Why Stromer avoided model years and heavy discounting• How premium pricing helped protect second-hand values• Why Belgium became such a successful speed-pedelec market• The regulatory barriers holding speed pedelecs back in Germany• Tomi's biggest lessons from more than a decade at Stromer• Why Viiala is building the brand before revealing the bike• The thinking behind a €30,000 hyperbike• Developing a proprietary motor, battery and technology platform• Bringing automotive-style safety technology to two wheels• Why Viiala wants to manufacture and assemble in Europe• Whether ultra-luxury bicycles can become a category like luxury cars and watches• Viiala's plans for more accessible commuter and urban models• The roadmap toward the first customer deliveries

    Ex-Stromer CEO is building a Hyperbike - Tomi Viiala, Founder Viiala

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Welcome to Micromobility, a podcast exploring the disruption that comes from new lightweight utility vehicles. Using the history of computing as a framework, we unpack what business models and impacts we’re likely to see in transport in cities.

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