Jeansland Podcast

Jeansland
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This is why I do this. Jeansland is a podcast about the ecosystem in which jeans live. There are an estimated 26 million cotton farmers around the world, and about 25% of their production goes into jeans, which could mean 6.2 million farmers depend on denim. I read estimates that at least 1 million people work in retail selling jeans, and another 1.5 to 2 million sew them. And then there are all the label producers, pattern makers, laundries, chemical companies, machinery producers, and those that work in denim mills. I mean, the jeans industry, which is bigger than the global movie and music business combined, employs a lot of human beings. And many of them, like me, love jeans. The French philosopher and existentialist Simone de Beauvoir, when visiting New York, said, "Everyone in the New York subway is a novel." I never met her, but I guess she made the observation because of the incredible diversity of people who ride the subway system. I'm convinced the people in our jeans industry are like those in the subway. They are unique, with rich and complex stories to tell, and I want to hear them. And deep inside me, I think you might feel the same way. https://jeansland.co/

  1. Ep 48: Rethinking Growth in Fashion with Shamin Vogel

    2D AGO

    Ep 48: Rethinking Growth in Fashion with Shamin Vogel

    This week, Andrew sits down with Shamin Vogel, editorial director and co-publisher of of WeAr Media Group—the people behind WeAr Global Magazine, one of the most widely read fashion trade publications in the world, and WeAr Denim, the biannual deep dive for the denim supply chain, backed by a monthly newsletter that actually gets read—to talk about where fashion really is right now, and why so much of it feels off. They dig into the tension between growth and meaning, why sustainability still has no shared definition, and how fashion lost its ability to lead culture instead of chase it. Shamin brings a rare, long-term perspective shaped by decades of industry observation, global publishing, and a deep belief that fashion is a lifestyle business first, not a financial spreadsheet. The conversation moves easily from denim and luxury to retail, media trust, trade shows, and the uncomfortable truth about why doing nothing feels safer than taking risks. It’s not a hype-driven episode. It’s a clear-eyed one about perception, responsibility, and what actually lasts. If you care about fashion beyond trends, and want to understand the forces shaping what survives next, this one’s worth your time. Thank you to our sponsor Inside Denim. Shamin Vogel Editorial Director & Co-Publisher, WeAr Media Group & WeAr Denim WeAr Media Group, WeAr Book Store, WeAr LinkedIn, Instagram WeAr Denim Newsletter Shamin's Personal Linked-In Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    44 min
  2. Ep 47: Portugal and the Long Game

    DEC 17

    Ep 47: Portugal and the Long Game

    This episode starts in 1975, just after Portugal’s Carnation Revolution. A dictatorship ends. No civil war. No collapse. Just a quiet reset and a country that suddenly has to figure out how to function without fear, hierarchy, or shortcuts. Then we jump to now. Portugal is one of the strongest-performing economies in Europe, and almost nobody is talking about it. So the question is not “what happened?” It’s “how long did it take?” In five minutes, Andrew looks at what decades of underinvestment actually do to a country, why revolutions don’t fix systems overnight, and how real change tends to show up slowly, boringly, and all at once. Roads. Education. Institutions. Confidence. This isn’t a hype piece or a travel diary. It’s a short reflection on patience, competence, and why the long game usually wins, even if no one is watching. Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    5 min
  3. Ep 46: Inside Denim Journalism with Sophie Bramel

    DEC 11

    Ep 46: Inside Denim Journalism with Sophie Bramel

    Sophie Bramel is the technical editor at Inside Denim, and she watches the entire global denim ecosystem. Brands, mills, fibers, innovation, sustainability. All of it. In this conversation, Andrew and Sophie trace her path from music and fashion reporting to becoming one of the industry's most trusted observers. She talks about why denim mills feel like "cathedrals to blue," why true innovation takes decades (she uses Tencel™ as the perfect example), and why the industry talks sustainability far more than it actually implements it. They dig into labor equity, the global South, and the real limits of circularity. Sophie doesn't sugarcoat the challenges. Chemical recycling is still opaque. Wages haven't kept up. Clothing is the one thing that hasn't gotten more expensive, and that's not normal. They also talk about trade shows (too many?), what young writers should do if they want to cover fashion, and why denim is one of the few corners of the industry where deep reporting still matters. Sophie's take? If you're just copy-pasting press releases, you won't survive. If you care about how this industry actually works, listen to this one. Thank you to our sponsor Inside Denim. Sophie Bramel Technical Editor, Inside Denim Inside Denim, LinkedIn, Instagram, Bluesky, Threads Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    38 min
  4. Ep 45: What COP30 Actually Means

    DEC 3

    Ep 45: What COP30 Actually Means

    In this week’s episode of Andrew’s Take, Andrew breaks down COP30 in Belém, Brazil and why so many people still don’t know what COP is or why the world gathers every year to discuss climate goals that rarely materialize. He walks through the entire arc, from COP’s 1992 origins to the Kyoto years, the Copenhagen disaster, the Paris moment of optimism, and the long loop of promises made and ignored. COP30 added its own contradictions: billions pledged for adaptation and forest protection, a strong Amazon backdrop, and the UN declaring “cooperation is alive,” even as the US and UK barely showed up. Andrew also looks at what was missing: no fossil fuel phase-out, no clarity on who pays for what, and an open runway for polyester production to keep expanding. The numbers are blunt. We are nowhere near the 1.5°C target, and emissions need to fall 43 percent in the next five years. A clear, honest walk through the history, the progress, and the uncomfortable truth of a process that keeps sounding like a victory speech delivered by the losing team. Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    6 min
  5. Ep 44: Building Jeans Worth Defending with Menno van Meurs

    NOV 26

    Ep 44: Building Jeans Worth Defending with Menno van Meurs

    “If the supply chain isn’t something I can be proud of, the garment isn’t worth making.”— Menno van Meurs, Founder of Tenue de Nîmes and Tenue. Menno van Meurs runs one of the most respected denim stores in Europe, Tenue de Nîmes in Amsterdam. He also makes his own jeans under the Tenue brand. He's not chasing trends. He's holding the line on craft, quality, and supply chain integrity in an industry that's mostly given up on all three. In this conversation, Andrew and Menno talk about how the denim business lost its way. How boardrooms started dictating what quality should cost instead of asking what quality should be. How brands squeezed every dime out of their suppliers and then acted surprised when the product looked miserable. And why Menno finally decided to start his own brand after a decade of success, just so he could make jeans he was proud to stand behind. Menno traces his path from finding his father's old 1970s denim in a closet to working in Dutch retail under entrepreneurs who believed risk and responsibility belonged on the shop floor. He talks about the slow collapse of large online retailers, the resilience of independents who still care about fit and service, and why he thinks there's a window of opportunity right now for stores that survived the last decade of chaos. At the center of it all is his belief that value comes from honesty. With suppliers, with customers, with yourself. If the supply chain can't be defended, the garment isn't worth making. And if a brand can't protect its makers, it can't claim a heritage. A good conversation about what it takes to build something that lasts, told by someone who still treats denim as a craft, not a commodity. Thank you to our sponsor Inside Denim. Menno van Meurs Founder, Tenue de Nîmes & Tenue Tenue de Nîmes, Tenue, Instagram Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    34 min
  6. Ep 43: Are New U.S. Tariffs Even Legal?

    NOV 19

    Ep 43: Are New U.S. Tariffs Even Legal?

    In April, the White House called it Liberation Day. The apparel industry called it panic. Andrew breaks down what happened when decades of predictable duty rates got wiped out overnight. Global jeans suppliers were hit with numbers no one saw coming. Vietnam at 46%, Cambodia at 49%, Bangladesh at 37%. Orders paused. Panic spread. The rollout felt like a list of naughty countries with penalties posted on a scoreboard. But the story didn't end there. A group of small importers challenged the tariffs in court, and their case reached the U.S. Supreme Court. The justices, conservative and liberal, all seemed skeptical of the government's argument. Chief Justice Roberts pointed out that the emergency powers law doesn't mention tariffs once. Justice Gorsuch asked if this theory would let a president declare war alone. The Solicitor General's defense didn't persuade anyone. If the Court strikes down the tariffs, the government could owe importers hundreds of billions and Congress would have to rebuild U.S. trade authority from the ground up. Meanwhile, the big brands who stayed silent, Levi's, Walmart, Gap, American Eagle, they'd get their money back. A silent windfall. The customers who already paid higher prices? They'll never see that money again. This episode traces the legal fight, the political stakes, and what a reversal would mean for everyone caught in the middle. Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    7 min
  7. Ep 42: Fifty Years of Denim at Over the Rainbow with Joel and Daniel Carman

    NOV 12

    Ep 42: Fifty Years of Denim at Over the Rainbow with Joel and Daniel Carman

    In 1975, Joel Carman opened Over the Rainbow with $2,000, a love of jeans, and no idea what he was doing. Fifty years later, Joel and his family run one of the longest-standing independent denim retailers in North America. Andrew sits down with Joel and Daniel to talk about what it takes to survive five decades in retail—from the early days when Joel was making $15 a day and driving a cab at night, to the decision to go premium in 2000, and how the internet became their best marketing tool without killing the store. Joel explains why venture capital is a bigger threat to denim than athleisure, why integrity matters more than cashing in, and what it means to stay a student of your industry even after 50 years. Daniel shares how they’ve stayed relevant by evolving every decade, hiring people smarter than them, and treating the business like it’s never just a job. They also talk about fitting Sylvester Stallone, why European brands often fail in North America, and the jeans they actually wear. A conversation about legacy, family, and what happens when you love what you do more than the money it makes. Joel Carman Founder, Over the Rainbow Over the Rainbow, Instagram Daniel Carman Partner, Over the Rainbow Over the Rainbow, Instagram Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    42 min
  8. Ep 41: Are Corporations Psychopaths?

    NOV 5

    Ep 41: Are Corporations Psychopaths?

    If a corporation were a person, what kind of person would it be? Andrew revisits the 2003 documentary The Corporation, which diagnosed the modern company as a psychopath. No empathy, no remorse, no conscience. Just profit with zero regard for human cost. He applies that lens to denim. Chasing cheaper wages. Blue-washing sustainability while underpaying the people who make the jeans. The 2020 sequel's message? The corporation hasn't changed. It's just evolved from overt sociopathy to charming manipulation. 🎧 Listen now at jeansland.co #JeanslandPodcast #DenimIndustry #SupplyChain #EthicalFashion #Jeansland Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

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This is why I do this. Jeansland is a podcast about the ecosystem in which jeans live. There are an estimated 26 million cotton farmers around the world, and about 25% of their production goes into jeans, which could mean 6.2 million farmers depend on denim. I read estimates that at least 1 million people work in retail selling jeans, and another 1.5 to 2 million sew them. And then there are all the label producers, pattern makers, laundries, chemical companies, machinery producers, and those that work in denim mills. I mean, the jeans industry, which is bigger than the global movie and music business combined, employs a lot of human beings. And many of them, like me, love jeans. The French philosopher and existentialist Simone de Beauvoir, when visiting New York, said, "Everyone in the New York subway is a novel." I never met her, but I guess she made the observation because of the incredible diversity of people who ride the subway system. I'm convinced the people in our jeans industry are like those in the subway. They are unique, with rich and complex stories to tell, and I want to hear them. And deep inside me, I think you might feel the same way. https://jeansland.co/

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