Jeansland Podcast

Jeansland

This is why I do this. Jeansland is a podcast about the ecosystem in which jeans live. There are an estimated 26 million cotton farmers around the world, and about 25% of their production goes into jeans, which could mean 6.2 million farmers depend on denim. I read estimates that at least 1 million people work in retail selling jeans, and another 1.5 to 2 million sew them. And then there are all the label producers, pattern makers, laundries, chemical companies, machinery producers, and those that work in denim mills. I mean, the jeans industry, which is bigger than the global movie and music business combined, employs a lot of human beings. And many of them, like me, love jeans. The French philosopher and existentialist Simone de Beauvoir, when visiting New York, said, "Everyone in the New York subway is a novel." I never met her, but I guess she made the observation because of the incredible diversity of people who ride the subway system. I'm convinced the people in our jeans industry are like those in the subway. They are unique, with rich and complex stories to tell, and I want to hear them. And deep inside me, I think you might feel the same way. https://jeansland.co/

  1. 3d ago

    Ep. 92: Bringing American Denim Back to Life with Maurice Malone

    What does it take to rebuild an industry? Maybe it starts with teaching someone how to make a pair of jeans. In Episode 92, Andrew is joined by Maurice Malone, a pioneering denim designer, entrepreneur, and one of the original figures in American streetwear. With more than four decades in the business, Maurice has seen just about everything. And he's certainly done a few things differently along the way. His story begins in Detroit, where a teenager with ambitions of becoming a Hollywood special effects artist found himself making hats in his mother's basement. One thing led to another, and before long, he was selling clothes, building brands, promoting hip-hop events, and helping shape a streetwear movement that would eventually become a global industry. There's plenty of history here, including Detroit's legendary Hip Hop Shop, the early days of urban fashion, New York Fashion Week, and the remarkable rise, disappearance, and reinvention of the Maurice Malone brand. But Maurice isn't particularly interested in living in the past. Today, he's behind Williamsburg Garment Company, a Brooklyn-based denim brand and manufacturing operation specializing in American-made jeans, custom fits, alterations, and small-scale production. He's also building something rather unusual: a destination for people who genuinely love denim, where shopping, manufacturing, education, and community all come together. And then there's Denim Workshop, his ambitious nine-week program teaching people how to actually make jeans, from digital pattern-making to working with industrial sewing machines. Andrew and Maurice explore what happened to American denim manufacturing, why finding skilled workers has become so difficult, what the Japanese denim industry gets right, and why today's explosion of independent brands might create an unexpected opportunity to bring production back home. They also look at the changing retail experience, the importance of craftsmanship, and why a good pair of jeans should be about more than a label. What's particularly refreshing about Maurice is that after more than 40 years, he's still learning, experimenting, and coming up with new ideas. And now he's determined to pass that knowledge along to the next generation. It's a fascinating journey through hip-hop, fashion, entrepreneurship, and the evolution of American denim, with someone who helped shape the industry and continues to challenge what it can become. More than anything, it's a story about experience, reinvention, and the importance of passing knowledge on to the next generation. Maurice Malone Founder, Williamsburg Garment Company Founder, Denim Workshop Williamsburg Garment Company | Maurice Malone | Denim Workshop Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    Ep. 92: Bringing American Denim Back to Life with Maurice Malone
  2. Oct 21

    Ep. 91: Bringing the Fun Back to Denim with Erin Barajas and Amy Leverton

    Who says the denim industry can’t have a little more fun? In Episode 91, Andrew is joined by two longtime friends and familiar faces in the denim world, Erin Barajas and Amy Leverton. Between the three of them, there are decades of industry experience, plenty of stories, and a shared appreciation for the wonderfully unusual people who make this business what it is. Amy, founder of Denim Dudes and one of the industry’s leading trend forecasters, has spent more than 20 years exploring the intersection of denim, design, and culture. Erin, a former journalist and Kingpins veteran, has built a career around storytelling, creative programming, and bringing people together. Now they’ve joined forces to create Here|After, a fresh approach to industry events in Los Angeles that combines trend forecasting, unexpected ideas, great speakers, and something the industry could probably use more of: genuine inspiration. Andrew takes them back through their unconventional careers, from Erin’s early days covering denim in Los Angeles to Amy’s introduction to the industry at Cone Mills. They talk about taking risks, finding opportunities in unexpected places, the role of AI in trend forecasting, and why the creative side of fashion sometimes gets lost in the business of making clothes. But the real excitement is what they’re building next. With Here|After Market launching in 2027, Erin and Amy are betting that Los Angeles still has plenty to offer the denim world, particularly a new generation of independent designers and brands doing things their own way. Andrew knows firsthand how difficult the LA market can be, and he’s delighted to see two people he knows and respects taking on the challenge. It’s a lively, funny, and refreshingly optimistic episode about friendship, creativity, taking chances, and remembering why we fell in love with this industry in the first place. Erin Barajas Co-Founder of Here|After, Communications & Marketing Consultant ⁠Instagram Amy Leverton Founder of Denim Dudes, Co-Founder of Here|After ⁠Instagram Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    Ep. 91: Bringing the Fun Back to Denim with Erin Barajas and Amy Leverton
  3. Oct 14

    Ep. 90: Cotton, Polyester, and the Stories We Tell with Terry Townsend

    What if some of the things we think we know about cotton aren’t quite what we’ve been told? In Episode 90, Andrew welcomes Terry Townsend into his Houston home for a rare in-person episode of Jeansland. And when you put two people with decades of experience in the cotton industry together, there’s plenty to talk about. Terry is an agricultural economist who spent 27 years with the International Cotton Advisory Committee (ICAC), including 15 years as its executive director. A former USDA cotton analyst, author, and longtime advocate for natural fibers, Terry brings an extraordinary depth of knowledge about the economics, production, and global trade of cotton. Andrew and Terry challenge some of the industry’s most persistent assumptions about organic cotton, water use, pesticides, and the way natural and synthetic fibers are compared. They examine life cycle assessments, the complicated origins of recycled polyester, and why some environmental claims deserve a closer look. There’s also a fascinating trip around the cotton-producing world, from Afghanistan and Brazil to China, Africa, and Central Asia, with plenty of surprising statistics along the way. And one particularly interesting question: Could cotton eventually follow wool’s decline? It’s an episode about agriculture, economics, technology, global trade, and the importance of understanding the numbers behind the materials we use every day. Because in an industry full of sustainability claims, sometimes the most useful thing we can do is question what we think we know. And if you think you know cotton, Terry might just give you a few reasons to think again. Terry Townsend Agricultural Economist & Cotton Industry Consultant Former Executive Director, International Cotton Advisory Committee (ICAC) ⁠Cotton Analytics |  ⁠LinkedIn Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    Ep. 90: Cotton, Polyester, and the Stories We Tell with Terry Townsend
  4. Oct 7

    Ep. 89 — REVISITED: Adriano Goldschmied Part 1 - “The Godfather of Denim” - Founder and Designer, Genious Group, House of Gold, Daily Blue Denim

    What does the future of denim look like through the eyes of someone who spent a lifetime helping shape it? In this revisited episode, Andrew sits down with Adriano Goldschmied, the legendary designer, entrepreneur and innovator known throughout the industry as the “Godfather of Denim.” Their discussion moves quickly from the state of the denim business to a much bigger question: where does it go next? Adriano talks candidly about too many mills chasing too little demand, relentless pressure on prices, changing consumers, and why the industry may need to stop thinking about constant growth and start thinking about simply doing things better. Then they start imagining. Luxury denim made from silk and merino wool. Cotton created through biotechnology. Indigo derived from sugar cane. Digitally printed denim that could dramatically reduce water, inventory and waste. And a future where denim becomes less of a product category and more fully integrated into fashion. Following Adriano’s passing in April 2026, we wanted to revisit this episode and the ideas, curiosity and unmistakable passion for denim he shared with Andrew. Because even after a lifetime in the industry, Adriano wasn’t particularly interested in looking backward. He was still imagining what denim could become. Originally released as Episode 12 on March 12, 2025. Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    Ep. 89 — REVISITED: Adriano Goldschmied Part 1 - “The Godfather of Denim” - Founder and Designer, Genious Group, House of Gold, Daily Blue Denim
  5. Sep 30

    Ep. 88: Can We Fix the Global Supply Chain? with Auret van Heerden

    For decades, the fashion industry has been auditing its supply chain. So why are so many of the same problems still there? Twenty-one years ago, a jeans factory Andrew was working for faced allegations of serious labor abuses. Orders were disappearing, the accusations were mounting, and he didn’t know what to do. He reached out to Auret van Heerden at the Fair Labor Association in Geneva. That meeting changed Andrew’s life. In Episode 88, they meet again. Auret’s extraordinary career stretches from the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa, where he was detained without trial for 289 days, to the International Labour Organization and thirteen years with the Fair Labor Association. Together, they cover remarkable ground across more than three decades of global sourcing. Audits and human rights. Cotton and synthetics. ESG. Forced labor. Contract sanctity. Governments and NGOs. And the increasingly complicated relationship between the people buying things and the people actually making them. Auret was there as many of the systems we now call social responsibility were being built. Some worked. Others didn’t. One important voice, he argues, was too often missing from the beginning: the supplier. Andrew and Auret look at audit fatigue, transactional sourcing, the outsourcing of risk, and why demanding better standards without giving suppliers the means or incentive to achieve them may be part of the problem. After decades of audits, standards and initiatives, maybe we don’t need another system. Maybe we need to fix the relationships inside the one we already have. Auret Van Heerden Founder & CEO at Equiception Business and Human Rights LinkedIn Please follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

    Ep. 88: Can We Fix the Global Supply Chain? with Auret van Heerden
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This is why I do this. Jeansland is a podcast about the ecosystem in which jeans live. There are an estimated 26 million cotton farmers around the world, and about 25% of their production goes into jeans, which could mean 6.2 million farmers depend on denim. I read estimates that at least 1 million people work in retail selling jeans, and another 1.5 to 2 million sew them. And then there are all the label producers, pattern makers, laundries, chemical companies, machinery producers, and those that work in denim mills. I mean, the jeans industry, which is bigger than the global movie and music business combined, employs a lot of human beings. And many of them, like me, love jeans. The French philosopher and existentialist Simone de Beauvoir, when visiting New York, said, "Everyone in the New York subway is a novel." I never met her, but I guess she made the observation because of the incredible diversity of people who ride the subway system. I'm convinced the people in our jeans industry are like those in the subway. They are unique, with rich and complex stories to tell, and I want to hear them. And deep inside me, I think you might feel the same way. https://jeansland.co/

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