Jung in the World

Patricia Martin
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Jung in the World podcast has brought together some of the most original minds of our time, MacArthur fellows, bestselling authors, mythologists, cultural icons, and groundbreaking psychoanalysts to talk about what it means to make a world that sustains an inner life. With nearly two million downloads since its launch in 2020, the podcast offers penetrating conversations at the intersection of psychology, culture, and contemporary life. Guests have included Judith Herman, Mark Nepo, Natalie Goldberg, Lewis Hyde, Richard Tarnas, Megan O’Gieblyn, and Jungian analysts James Hollis and Murray Stein. Hosted by Patricia Martin. A production of the Institute for Psyche and Culture.

  1. Oct 1

    Jung in the World | When Carl Jung Met His Soul: Confronting the Unconscious | George Bright, Red Book scholar

    Carl Jung's Red Book remained hidden for nearly a century. It is the record of what happened after his 1913 break with Freud, when Jung deliberately turned toward his unconscious and met his soul. Red Book scholar George Bright returns to Jung in the World to explore what Jung found in that confrontation and how it profoundly transformed Carl Jung’s understanding of psychoanalysis and the collective. Bright also offers a surprising reading of Freud's break. Early psychoanalysis was a new field fighting for legitimacy, and Freud had to train his competitors. For anyone drawn to Jung, the history of psychology, or the long work of meeting the unconscious. In this episode: Why Jung's break with Freud was partly about the realities of a new scientific field, and why Freud had little choice but to train future competitors What Jung was looking for when he turned toward his unconscious in 1913 How the Red Book became the source of Jung's later theories George Bright is a British analytical psychologist with more than three decades of private practice in London. He is a Training and Supervising Analyst with the Society of Analytical Psychology and a Member of the Chicago Society of Jungian Analysts. Educated at Cambridge University and the London School of Economics, he teaches Jung's Red Book in London, Chicago, and Los Angeles. In 2016 he co-founded The Circle of Analytical Psychology, dedicated to close study of the Red Book and the Black Books. His paper "Synchronicity as a basis of analytic attitude" won the Michael Fordham Prize.

  2. Jul 22

    Jung in the World | Synchronicity at the Deathbed: Jung and Meaning at the End of Life with Daniel Ross

    Carl Jung called it “an acausal connecting principle” — but for Dan Ross, a Jungian analyst working in hospice care, synchronicity isn’t just theoretical. In this episode, Dan reveals what thirty years of end-of-life work taught him about Jung’s most misappropriated theory, its roots in Jung’s relationship with physicist Wolfgang Pauli, and why studying synchronicity seems to produce more of it. This episode is rich with poignant examples blended that will leave you thinking differently about how synchronicity works in your own life. Daniel Ross, RN, PMHNP, MSN, MBA has been a nurse for 40 years and in hospice for over 30. As a Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner, he brings both a medical and psychiatric experience to the field of end-of-life care. He is a Jungian Analyst at the C. G. Jung Institute of Chicago where he has been Director of Training in the Analyst Training Program and Co-Director of the Jungian Psychotherapy Program and Jungian Studies Program. Dan works in the field of Hospice and Palliative Care and is in private practice as a psychotherapist in Chicago.

  3. May 25

    Jung in the World | Judith Herman, M.D. on Trauma and What Remains

    Judith Herman is widely known as a defining voice in trauma psychiatry for more than fifty years. Her work bridges the personal and the political, framing trauma as not only an individual experience, but a public health and human rights issue. In this interview with host Patricia Martin, Judith Herman tells the story of how her work evolved, what remains to be done for CPTSD victims, and what all of us can do to create conditions survivors need to heal. Judith Lewis Herman, MD, is Professor of Psychiatry (part time) at Harvard Medical School. For 30 years, until she retired, she was Director of Training at the Victims of Violence Program at The Cambridge Hospital, Cambridge, MA. She is the author of the award-winning books Father-Daughter Incest (Harvard University Press, 1981) and Trauma and Recovery (Basic Books, 1992). She is the recipient of numerous awards, including a Guggenheim Fellowship in 1984 and the 1996 Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies. In 2007, she was named a Distinguished Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association. Her new book, Truth and Repair, was published in March 2023. Books by Judith Herman:

  4. Mar 24

    Jung in the World | Traumatic Narcissism, Cult Survival, and Reclaiming Dignity with Daniel Shaw, LCSW

    Psychotherapist Daniel Shaw survived a decade in a cult — then spent 30 years helping victims of traumatic narcissism heal. He talks with host Patricia Martin about the mechanics of subjugation, why “no contact” isn’t always the answer, and how reclaiming dignity supports recovery. Keywords: Narcissism, narcissistic trauma, cult, psychology, recovery Daniel Shaw, LCSW, is a psychotherapist trained in psychoanalysis as well as in trauma-informed psychotherapies, including Sensorimotor Psychotherapy and Trauma-Informed Stabilization Treatment (TIST). He is in private practice in New York City and in Nyack, New York; and Faculty and Supervisor at The National Institute for the Psychotherapies in New York. In his book Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation, published by Routledge in 2014 for the Relational Perspectives Series and nominated for the prestigious Gradiva Award, Shaw introduced the traumatic narcissism theory. Shaw’s theory focuses on how the “traumatizing narcissist” manipulates victims, causing them to be fearful and insecure at the same time as they are becoming more and more dependent. Unlike with theories of pathological narcissism that focus on treating people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Shaw’s work focuses on helping victims of traumatizing narcissists recover their faith and trust in themselves. His book Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery: Leaving the Prison of Shame and Fear was published in 2021. In 2018, the International Cultic Studies Association awarded Dan the Margaret Thaler Singer Award for advancing the understanding of coercive persuasion and undue influence. A third book, Traumatic Narcissism Theory: A Contemporary Introduction, will be published in 2026. Shaw has for many years been teaching groups of mental health professionals how to understand and use the traumatic narcissism theory to help not only cult survivors, but survivors of all kinds of traumatic narcissistic abuse. Learn more at danielshawlcsw.com. Books by Daniel Shaw:

  5. Jan 28

    Jung in the World | Individuation at 75: Oliver Sacks’s Journey to Wholeness with Bill Hayes

    Individuation isn’t about becoming better. It’s about becoming whole. At 75, neurologist Oliver Sacks finally integrated the parts of himself he’d kept hidden—his sexuality, his need for love, his domestic life (who knew he kept a library of Jung’s work). Bill Hayes talks intimately about Sacks’s late-life transformation which exemplifies Jung’s crucial insight: growth isn’t about fixing what’s broken. It’s about integrating what you’ve exiled. The recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship in nonfiction, Bill Hayes is a frequent contributor to the New York Times and the author of seven books, including Sleep Demons; Five Quarts; The Anatomist; Insomniac City; and How We Live Now: Scenes from the Pandemic.  His writing has also appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Review of Books, the New York Times “T” Style Magazine, BuzzFeed, and The Guardian. His most recent book, SWEAT: A History of Exercise, a narrative nonfiction look at exercise from antiquity to the present, is available now wherever books are sold.  Hayes is also a photographer, with credits including The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, and the New York Times.  His portraits of his partner, the late Oliver Sacks, appear in the volume of Dr. Sacks’s suite of final essays Gratitude.  A collection of his street photography, How New York Breaks Your Heart, was published in 2018 by Bloomsbury.  His photographs are available for sale as limited edition prints exclusively by CLAMP art gallery in New York City. Books by Bill Hayes:

  6. 12/09/2025

    Jung in the World | Psychopaths, Narcissists, and the Monster Behind the Mask with Peter Demuth

    Host Patricia Martin explores with guest Peter Demuth, a Jungian analyst, how psychopaths and narcissists construct false selves, their emotional deficits, and why society often rewards their pathology—until individual disorders spiral into collective crises that breach even legal boundaries. Rather than rehashing tired tropes, Demuth strikes original notes on the severest personality disorders, making room for genuine optimism that we can reclaim empathy as our shared human virtue. Books by Peter Demuth:   Dr. Peter Demuth is a Clinical Forensic Psychologist & Jungian Psychoanalyst in private practice. He is an international lecturer, as well as an instructor at the C. G. Jung Institute of Chicago and has published numerous papers on such subjects as ego strength, the individuation process, and psychopathy. He is a singer-songwriter with 8 full length albums of original introspective folk-pop music and performs regularly in the greater Chicago area. In December of 2023 he released his first book entitled Monsters in Life and Literature. He lives with his wife Karen, 2 cats, and a Golden Retriever in Evanston, Illinois.

  7. 10/22/2025

    Jung in the World B-Sides | Living as Someone Else: The Hidden Cost of Online Personas with Hilde Lynn Helphenstein (Part 2)

    This episode is part of a new series, Jung in the World B-Sides, where we go off-road to explore the rugged psychological terrain of our current culture. This episode is part 2 of our interview with Hilde Lynn Helphenstein. Part 1 “Know thyself”—from Socrates to Shakespeare, this wisdom echoed across centuries. But the digital age is turning it inside out. As online influencers rise to fame, persona is overtaking the self. The obsession with self-representation has eclipsed the drive to be true to oneself. What does it mean to live your life as someone else? In this two-part interview, host Patricia Martin talks with the infamous Jerry Gogosian—real name Hilde Helphenstein—about the hidden psychological costs of her seven-year experiment living as her persona and how she clawed her identity back. Watch the video of this interview: https://youtu.be/_EQMW6FI_Sw   Hilde Lynn Helphenstein is a visual artist, digital storyteller, and the creative mind behind @jerrygogosian, a popular satirical Instagram meme account that critiques and comments on the global art world through viral images, videos and text pieces. It has since transformed into a community and platform.

  8. 10/14/2025

    Jung in the World B-Sides | Living as Someone Else: The Hidden Cost of Online Personas with Hilde Lynn Helphenstein (Part 1)

    This episode is part of a new series, Jung in the World B-Sides, where we go off-road to explore the rugged psychological terrain of our current culture. Part 2 is now up. Listen to Part 2 “Know thyself”—from Socrates to Shakespeare, this wisdom echoed across centuries. But the digital age is turning it inside out. As online influencers rise to fame, persona is overtaking the self. The obsession with self-representation has eclipsed the drive to be true to oneself. What does it mean to live your life as someone else? In this two-part interview, host Patricia Martin talks with the infamous Jerry Gogosian—real name Hilde Helphenstein—about the hidden psychological costs of her seven-year experiment living as her persona and how she clawed her identity back. Watch the video of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqN8oLeQQaQ   Hilde Lynn Helphenstein is a visual artist, digital storyteller, and the creative mind behind @jerrygogosian, a popular satirical Instagram meme account that critiques and comments on the global art world through viral images, videos and text pieces. It has since transformed into a community and platform.

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Jung in the World podcast has brought together some of the most original minds of our time, MacArthur fellows, bestselling authors, mythologists, cultural icons, and groundbreaking psychoanalysts to talk about what it means to make a world that sustains an inner life. With nearly two million downloads since its launch in 2020, the podcast offers penetrating conversations at the intersection of psychology, culture, and contemporary life. Guests have included Judith Herman, Mark Nepo, Natalie Goldberg, Lewis Hyde, Richard Tarnas, Megan O’Gieblyn, and Jungian analysts James Hollis and Murray Stein. Hosted by Patricia Martin. A production of the Institute for Psyche and Culture.

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  • Creator
    Patricia Martin
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    49
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Show Website
    Jung in the World

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