What if Christian hope isn’t about escaping this world, but about seeing it made new? In this inaugural episode of Season 3, Rob Hoskins sits down with renowned New Testament scholar Dr. N.T. Wright and theologian Dr. Jesse Stone at Oxford to explore what the Holy Spirit is doing in the space between the resurrection of Jesus and the renewal of all things. Together, they challenge an “escape to heaven” vision of Christianity and recover a bigger biblical story: God is not abandoning His creation. He is renewing it and forming His people to embody that future in the world today. Drawing from Acts 2, Romans 8, 1 Corinthians 15, and Wright’s newest book God’s Homecoming, they explore what this vision means for Spirit-empowered mission, suffering, evangelism, the Church, and Christian leadership. If the Spirit is preparing us not simply to leave the world but to become people of new creation, how should that reshape the way we lead, serve, suffer, and bear witness today? For missional leaders, the question is ultimately bigger than what we believe about the end times: What kind of people is the Spirit forming us to become - and what does our life together reveal about the future God has promised? Show Note Links: Hoskins School of Mission Within Southeastern University, the Bob and Hazel Hoskins School of Mission provides students with interdisciplinary degree programs which combine ministry and marketplace skills for roles of Spirit-empowered leadership. This episode was recorded during a doctoral intensive hosted by the Hoskins School of Mission. To speak directly with one of our HSOM program coordinators, please fill out this form here God’s Homecoming by N.T. WrightTom’s newest book exploring God’s promise to dwell with His people and renew creation. Surprised by Hope by N.T. WrightReferenced as an important companion to God’s Homecoming and its vision of resurrection, new creation, and Christian hope. The Gospel of the Kingdom by George Eldon LaddA formative influence on Rob’s understanding of inaugurated eschatology. Ask N.T. Wright AnythingTom’s podcast exploring biblical, theological, and cultural questions. AdmiratoA new platform featuring Tom’s online courses, engaging community discussions, and resources. Lesslie Newbigin ResourcesAn extensive archive of Newbigin’s writings, lectures, sermons, and resources on mission and the Church’s public witness. Timestamps:00:00 Cold open01:02 Welcome to season 3, meeting NT Wright and Jesse Stone03:53 I'll Fly Away and the rapture problem07:39 Jesse's journey from Pentecostal to Anglican12:20 Where Pentecostal pneumatology meets inaugurated eschatology13:15 NT Wright's own charismatic formation18:01 Acts 2, heaven and earth, and the new temple23:35 The four E's: eschatology and the fate of creation29:11 Souls, bodies, and Plato's long shadow32:38 Mission, bodies, and the full gospel38:29 Lesslie Newbigin and the church as hermeneutic43:19 A theology of power and the Spirit of the crucified49:21 Suffering, certainty, and the lust for control56:21 Evangelism and Eucharist as new creation01:00:00 Ecclesiology and the integration of all humanity01:04:22 Where to find more NT Wright01:06:46 Closing invitation