The Opposite of Cheating

Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast shares the real life experiences, thoughts, and talents of educators and professionals who are working to teach for integrity in the age of AI. The series features engaging conversations with brilliant innovators, teachers, leaders, and practitioners who are both resisting and integrating GenAI into their lives. The central value undergirding everything is, of course, integrity!

  1. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 49: Jason Lodge

    4D AGO

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 49: Jason Lodge

    "You can't have an aha moment unless you go through a period of being stuck or struggling or confused before you get there.”“AI will help you get to the finish line, but it's not going to give you the kind of work related positive impact that you would have by going through that process yourself.”In this 49th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Professor Jason Lodge (University of Queensland), an educational psychologist and lead author of the Australian Framework for Artificial Intelligence in Higher Education. Together, David and Jason dig into what the learning sciences tell us about “the work of learning”—why meaningful learning is often hard, why confusion can be a productive signal, and how AI can create a “performance without process” trap by helping students reach the finish line without building the underlying capability. Jason argues for moving beyond single snapshot assessments, equipping educators with a toolbox of context-sensitive approaches, and re-centering human relationships in teaching—especially as scale, equity, and the future role of teachers come under pressure. The conversation closes with a clear throughline: know students better to understand their learning better, and keep asking whether we’re doing the things that truly matter.You can follow Jason on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmlodge/You can access the Australian Framework for Artificial Intelligence in Higher Education at https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/assets.acses.edu.au/app/uploads/2025/12/Lodge-et-al-2025-Australian-Framework-for-Artificial-Intelligence-in-Higher-Education.pdf. (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    37 min
  2. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 48: Craig Zilles

    5D AGO

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 48: Craig Zilles

    “I’m an AI optimist long-term—but it’s creating an enormous problem in the short term around assessment.”“The automation allows us to shift the humans to do those things humans do better—like inspiration and one-on-one interaction.”In this 48th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Craig Zilles (Computer Science Professor, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign) shares a compelling case for computer-based testing facilities (CBTF) as essential infrastructure for modern universities—especially in the age of GenAI. Drawing on his background in mechanical, electrical, and computer engineering, Craig explains how scalability, equity, and better pedagogy motivated the University of Illinois’ early shift to computer-based testing long before AI tools like ChatGPT emerged.He outlines how the PrairieLearn platform, developed at UIUC, supports mastery-based learning, randomized assessments, and formative practice at scale, helping faculty focus more on teaching and inspiration and less on logistics and test proctoring. The conversation explores the two-lane approach to assessment, second-chance testing, cognitive offloading, and how secure assessments can support—not hinder—learning.Zilles challenges the notion that exams are inherently stressful or inequitable and offers a vision of assessment that is more human, more supportive, and more meaningful—especially when faculty are freed from the burdens of test administration.You can follow Craig on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-zilles-6b2893/ and see a list of his publications at https://zilles.cs.illinois.edu/.Episode Resources:Every University Should Have a Computer-Based Testing Facilityhttps://zilles.cs.illinois.edu/papers/zilles_csedu_cbtf_2019.pdfIntegrating Diverse Learning Tools using the PrairieLearn Platformhttps://zilles.cs.illinois.edu/papers/paper_pl_splice_2021.pdfHow Much Randomization is Needed to Deter Collaborative Cheating on Asynchronous Exams?https://zilles.cs.illinois.edu/papers/chen_paper_async_randomization_las_2018.pdfInvestigating the Effects of Testing Frequency on Programming Performance and Students’ Behaviorhttps://zilles.cs.illinois.edu/papers/frequent_testing_sigcse23.pdf(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    39 min
  3. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 47: Ronald Lethcoe

    FEB 16

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 47: Ronald Lethcoe

    “We would be doing a disservice to the students if we didn’t at least include AI in the conversation as an institution.”“Digital adaptability — being able to navigate this digital space that’s always changing — is the skill that’s going to be beneficial for anybody in the future.”In this 47th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Ronald Lethcoe reflects on what it means to build AI literacy ethically, intentionally, and institutionally. As an instructional design specialist at Clover Park Technical College, Ronald has been at the forefront of helping faculty navigate generative AI—not by jumping on the hype train, but by designing scalable resources, policies, and conversations that meet educators where they are.He shares his team’s approach to scaffolding faculty development through their “AI Essentials” course, discusses their AI usage “stoplight” framework for assignment design, and emphasizes the importance of digital adaptability as a core skill for both students and teachers.Ronald also opens up about parenting in the age of AI—recounting a conversation with his 9-year-old son about when getting help from ChatGPT crosses the line into cheating. The episode closes with a discussion on the limits of graphic infographics, the importance of nuance in course policies, and how infusing values like accessibility and openness into AI strategy can help institutions move forward responsibly.You can follow Ronald on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rlethcoe/ and listen to his Simon Says: Educate! Podcast at https://open.spotify.com/show/6qwx9B3oNookrZJT8GwHb8Episode Resources:Generative AI in Higher Education Canvas Coursehttps://lor.instructure.com/resources/b385d16a3e36434ebfede2315f585362?sharedApplied AI in College Classroom Canvas Course Crosswalkhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eIRoeKrWqMD4m9dpgeoeulr8a48ku9EoyAuYLxCqu9g/edit?gid=2027822702#gid=2027822702AI Usage Tags for Syllabi (CPTC TLC LibGuide)https://cptc.libguides.com/TLC/SyllabusGutierrez and Lethcoe’s AI Essentials in Education (AI-Ed) overviewhttps://jonigutierrez.com/2025/11/02/gutierrez-lethcoes-ai-essentials-in-education-ai-ed-responsible-ai-literacy-course-for-a-human-centered-future/AEIOU Ethos Framework for Responsible AI Usehttps://jonigutierrez.com/2025/08/02/aeiou-ethos-a-framework-for-responsible-ai/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).e the responsibility of the human).

    36 min
  4. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 46: Soroush Sabbaghan

    FEB 2

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 46: Soroush Sabbaghan

    “Every time you engage with these systems, you gain something—but you also lose something.”“Human agency is your capability to make informed decisions, to act with intention, and to exercise judgment.”What happens when the red lines we draw around generative AI start to blur? In this 46th episode of The Opposite of Cheating, Dr. Soroush Sabbaghan reflects on how he’s crossed the lines he once swore he wouldn’t—assigning AI-generated readings and using AI in student feedback—not out of compromise, but in service of integrity, transparency, and pedagogy.As the first GenAI Educational Leader-in-Residence at the Taylor Institute for Teaching and Learning at the University of Calgary, Soroush has developed tools and frameworks to support educators and students navigating GenAI with nuance. He argues for assignment-level AI policies, aligned with specific learning outcomes and ethical goals—not blanket rules—and introduces his system that distinguishes between AI-free, AI-scaffolded, and AI-integrated tasks.Soroush shares his deep concern for student agency, the asymmetry between human and machine learning, and the risks of a purely transactional approach to education. He invites us to live, teach, and design with a mindset of intellectual humility and epistemic integrity—recognizing that every AI interaction has tradeoffs.You can follow Soroush and his work on LInkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/soroush-sabbaghan/) and at https://soroushsabbaghan.com/Episode Resources: Communicating Generative AI Use: https://teaching-learning.ucalgary.ca/resources-educators/course-outlines/communicating-generative-ai-use-your-students AI Bot for Designing Courses: https://www.smartie.dev/ AI Bot for making AI Policy: https://ai-policy-mumf.onrender.com(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).e the responsibility of the human).

    40 min
  5. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 45: Nick Potkalitsky

    JAN 26

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 45: Nick Potkalitsky

    “We missed the mark with social media. We can’t miss it with AI.” “College has to reach down and figure out what students are actually learning instead of just existing in this gap space and resenting K–12.” In this episode, Nick Potkalitsky offers a K–12 lens on AI Literacy, reflecting on how schools, students, and parents are navigating this moment of rapid change—without repeating the mistakes made with social media. Drawing from over 20 years in education, Nick shares how his work with school districts across Ohio is building more intentional, discipline-specific, and developmental approaches to GenAI in education.Nick outlines a framework that includes policy development, infrastructure security, teacher capacity-building, and student-centered instructional redesign. At the core is the belief that AI Literacy must be more than prompt engineering—it must foster agency, ethical reasoning, critical thinking, and metacognitive awareness. Nick also warns of the dangerous asymmetry between how fast tech companies are moving and how fractured K–12 systems are. He calls for AI-free zones, authentic process-based writing, and more parent-facing AI education, especially to combat risks of AI misuse and companionship tools that are quietly shaping student behavior. You can follow Nick on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-potkalitsky-phd-0313ba126/) and at Substack (https://nickpotkalitsky.substack.com/). (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    43 min
  6. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 44: Karen Costa

    JAN 19

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 44: Karen Costa

    “I have many conflicted feelings about AI, but talking to kind, curious people seems to help.” “What does academic integrity mean when there are multi-billion dollar companies with armies of people whose job it is to make cheating irresistible?” In this deeply personal and reflective episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (44), Karen Costa shares what it means to teach for integrity in asynchronous, online learning environments in the age of GenAI. With nearly two decades of experience across multiple institutions, Karen highlights the role of relationships, care, and relevance in shaping learning spaces that foster integrity—not through surveillance, but through trust. She opens up about the tension between access and academic integrity, especially for adult learners, neurodivergent students, and working parents—populations whose educational opportunities often depend on online formats. Karen also discusses how the rise of agentic AI has forced educators to confront not just cheating, but the erosion of attention, motivation, and self-belief. She explores her shifting role as an instructor, her experiments with Google Docs version history, and her creative coping strategies—from AI command centers to faculty self-care. Most importantly, she challenges institutions and edtech companies to do more than outsource ethical decision-making to underpaid adjuncts. You can follow Karen on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-costa-380280a7/ and you can learn more about her book at https://www.amazon.com/Educators-Guide-ADHD-Designing-Teaching/dp/1421453509 (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    44 min
  7. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 43: Tim Fawns

    JAN 12

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 43: Tim Fawns

    “We need to be a little bit careful—if we put all our eggs in the assurance and academic integrity basket, then we’re at risk of forgetting some of the other really important parts of education.” “Some of the ways in which we deal with academic integrity actually do the opposite of cultivating integrity.” What is academic integrity in 2025—and how do we build learning environments that support it? In this 43rd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Australian educator and researcher Tim Fawns shares his expertise at the intersection of digital education, assessment design, and values-based teaching. Together, Tricia and Tim challenge simple binaries like online vs. in-person or authentic vs. secure. They explore how assessment security and human development can coexist, and why truly authentic assessment isn’t a panacea—it’s a complex design challenge requiring intentional trade-offs. Tim also reflects on the unintended effects of AI Detectors, which may shift the locus of trust away from students and instructors, and on how educational design can better engage the “whole person.” Drawing on research from the AI in Higher Education project (https://aiinhe.org/), he explains how student integrity decisions are shaped by intersecting identities, pressures, and realities—not just individual morals. You can follow Tim and/or learn more about him and his work on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-fawns-4aba225/) and on his website (https://timfawns.com/). (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    35 min
  8. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 42: Marc Watkins

    JAN 5

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 42: Marc Watkins

    “It was the first time I was introduced to the idea of academic integrity—because I had done something.”“Assessment is broken now that AI’s here. It probably wasn’t in great shape beforehand.”In this 42nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks with Marc Watkins, Assistant Director of Academic Innovation and Lecturer of Writing & Rhetoric at the University of Mississippi, and author of the popular Substack - Rhetorica. After revealing that he learned about academic integrity from his fourth grade teacher, Marc and Tricia explore the challenging and nuanced middle ground between AI hype and AI resistance. How we both teach students (and faculty) about the harms and downsides of AI relianceharms of the AI hype, the moral compromises baked into edtech, and the challenges . Watkins calls for nuanced discernment rather than blind resistance or enthusiastic adoption and advocates for teaching critical AI literacy and AI fluency as essential durable human skills.From handwritten journals in hybrid courses to AI-fueled loneliness and student mental health, this episode ranges widely—and offers practical strategies to bring students back into relationship with learning, and each other.You can follow Marc on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-watkins-7a760356/) and keep up with his writing, thinking and teaching at https://marcwatkins.substack.com/ and https://marcwatkins.org/. (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).e the responsibility of the human).

    39 min
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The Opposite of Cheating Podcast shares the real life experiences, thoughts, and talents of educators and professionals who are working to teach for integrity in the age of AI. The series features engaging conversations with brilliant innovators, teachers, leaders, and practitioners who are both resisting and integrating GenAI into their lives. The central value undergirding everything is, of course, integrity!

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  • Creator
    Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    29
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger
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