The Opposite of Cheating

Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger

The Opposite of Cheating Podcast shares the real life experiences, thoughts, and talents of educators and professionals who are working to teach for integrity in the age of AI. The series features engaging conversations with brilliant innovators, teachers, leaders, and practitioners who are both resisting and integrating GenAI into their lives. The central value undergirding everything is, of course, integrity!

  1. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 60: Loretta Goff

    4D AGO

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 60: Loretta Goff

    "The general tools are not built for learning. You have to really know what you're doing to use them. It's very easy to end up being led by them because of the way they communicate.""If I had the magic wand, it would give everyone the time and the resources to really be able to focus on how they're teaching and how they're assessing."In this 60th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David sits down with Dr. Loretta Goff, Academic Integrity Education Officer at University College Cork, for a conversation about what it looks like to build an integrity culture from the ground up — and why Ireland's approach is worth paying attention to. Loretta describes how national funding through the Higher Education Authority enabled Irish institutions to create dedicated academic integrity roles, and how UCC intentionally split theirs into two positions: one focused on policy and procedure, the other — Loretta's — strictly on education. She shares what's working at UCC, from postgraduate tutors trained as academic integrity champions who run campus pop-up stands and meme competitions, to a digital badge course for faculty, to a structured remediation pathway for students who stumble. The conversation turns to emerging findings from UCC's student and faculty surveys, which reveal a troubling trust gap between educators and students, a growing sense among non-AI-users that they're being disadvantaged by peers who offload to AI, and a demotivation around learning itself driven by time poverty and the cost-of-living crisis. Loretta's advice for anyone starting out? Transparency — it's free, it barely takes extra time, and it works.You can follow Loretta on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/loretta-goff-5a51a95a/ and learn more about her at https://www.ucc.ie/en/skillscentre/about/meettheteam/.(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using YouTube's transcript and Claude and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human.)

    34 min
  2. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 59: Joe Clare

    MAY 5

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 59: Joe Clare

    "There are actually things I can do and it's empowering I think for academics at a time where it can feel a bit overwhelming — there's actually a range of things that we can do.""The thing you can try and limit is the extent to which opportunity exists within the assessment items and the structure of the things you're doing in your unit."In this 59th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David sits down with Professor Joe Clare, a criminologist at the University of Western Australia, for a fascinating conversation about what crime prevention science can teach us about academic integrity. Joe explains how his background in cognitive science and environmental criminology led him to a crucial insight: just as car theft plummeted worldwide not because criminals reformed but because manufacturers built in electronic immobilizers, academic misconduct can be dramatically reduced by redesigning the opportunity structure of assessments rather than trying to change student dispositions. Drawing on Ron Clarke's 25 techniques of situational crime prevention — increasing risk, increasing effort, reducing reward, removing provocation, and reducing excuses — Joe walks through a real case study at Curtin University where a colleague unknowingly applied this entire framework to shut down a contract cheating operation in a business school capstone course. The conversation surfaces a powerful third approach to integrity that sits alongside values-based education and assessment security: choice architecture, or making not cheating the path of least resistance. Joe also draws on the "law of crime concentration at place" to remind us that spikes in misconduct are usually local problems requiring local fixes, and that the data consistently shows most students do the right thing most of the time.You can follow Joe on Linked at https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-clare-05098449/ and see his ORCID page (https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0444-4189) for more on his research.(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using YouTube's transcript and Claude and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human.)

    38 min
  3. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 58: Jason Stephens

    APR 27

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 58: Jason Stephens

    "Our tendency to deceive and our tendency to make moral judgments — both of these things are bred in the bone. These things live in tension inside of us.""I'm working on what I call a wise model of use — where I want to help students balance outsourcing stuff that's appropriate to outsource versus offloading the stuff I really should be engaging in because learning is difficult."In this 58th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David reconnects with longtime friend and collaborator Dr. Jason Stephens, a professor of psychological studies at the University of Auckland, for a deep dive into the moral psychology of cheating.Jason explains why, if he had to pick one variable to understand academic dishonesty, it would be moral disengagement — the rationalizations we use to protect our self-image after doing something we know is wrong. Drawing on Bandura, Freud, and evolutionary psychology, he traces the tension between two tendencies bred into humans: the impulse to deceive (older than morality itself, visible across nearly every species) and the social need to make moral judgments and appear trustworthy. Jason outlines his three-cluster model of why students cheat — under pressure, under interested, and unable — and describes how context and culture determine which tendency wins out. The conversation turns to AI, where Jason shares his "wise model of use," helping students distinguish between outsourcing extraneous cognitive load and offloading the hard thinking that constitutes real learning, using tools like Cogniti and Cadmus to scaffold that process. Both scholars agree that the deeper threat of AI may not be academic integrity at all, but the erosion of human connection as people increasingly turn to machines for social and emotional needs.(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and Anthropic's Claude but edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    35 min
  4. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 57: Kelly Ahuna

    APR 20

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 57: Kelly Ahuna

    "The future of the asynchronous online class, I think, is really in jeopardy. The classes are fine, but the assessments are completely cooked.""We're not going to win this on compliance. We're not going to win this with students because we say, 'We told you not to.' We have to win it on the value of learning."In this 57th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Dr. Kelly Ahuna, Director of the Office of Academic Integrity at the University at Buffalo (SUNY), to discuss the nuts and bolts of running one of the most active academic integrity programs in the country. Kelly shares how UB built its centralized office from scratch in 2019, placing it under academic affairs rather than student affairs — a deliberate choice that shapes their education-first approach. The conversation covers UB's innovative remediation process for first-time offenders, their student integrity ambassador program, and their annual Academic Integrity Awards ceremony held near National Honesty Day. Kelly and David also dig into the practical challenges AI poses — from repeat offenses driven by students' perception that AI-assisted cheating "doesn't feel as bad," to the impossibility of drawing a clear line between brainstorming and writing when the tools keep asking "would you like me to do more?" Throughout, Kelly emphasizes that enforcement alone will never solve the problem — the path forward lies in values-based education, peer-to-peer conversation, and building a culture where integrity is celebrated, not just policed.You can learn more about Kelly and the University of Buffalo's approach to academic integrity at https://www.buffalo.edu/academic-integrity.html(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and Anthropic's Claude but edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    32 min
  5. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 56: Emily Perkins

    APR 13

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 56: Emily Perkins

    "I need to find ways to trust them more and invite them to invest in their learning more at this point.""Are we going to be moving away from writing labs and designing more thinking labs when it comes to the classroom?"In this episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David sits down with Dr. Emily Perkins, Associate Director of the Writing Center at Le Moyne College, for a wide-ranging conversation about what happens to writing — and thinking — when AI can produce a passable paper with no thought required. Emily brings a unique cross-campus perspective, working daily with writing tutors, first-year students, and faculty across disciplines, and a background that spans academic integrity case management at Syracuse University and a PhD in teaching and curriculum with a certificate in trauma-informed care. The conversation zeroes in on process over product: Emily argues that the real value of a writing assignment isn't the final paper but the brainstorming, drafting, and decision-making that got the student there. She shares results from Le Moyne's student surveys showing that a meaningful number of students are choosing not to use AI because they want to learn by doing, and she advocates for transparent teaching, reflective assignments, and tools like Cursive that make the writing process visible. David and Emily also grapple with a provocative question: if writing is now decoupled from thinking, what does the future of thinking look like?You can follow Emily on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecallahanp/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and Anthropic's Claude but edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    30 min
  6. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 55: Mary Davis & Zeenath Khan

    APR 6

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 55: Mary Davis & Zeenath Khan

    "The shift needs to be about internalizing that [ethical] responsibility within the student." "Do you want to go up and upskill and continue focusing on your learning or do you want to go down and downskill and reduce or eliminate your learning?" In this 55th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia is joined by her co-authors Mary Davis (Oxford Brookes University) and Zeneeth Khan (University of Wollongong, Dubai) to discuss their forthcoming Cambridge University Press book, Academic Integrity in the Age of AI (https://www.cambridge.org/core/publications/elements/generative-ai-in-education), an element in the GenerativeAI and Education series edited by Tamara Tate & Mark Warschauer. The conversation opens with unforgettable origin stories — Zeneeth's transformation from a teenage cheating ringleader to an integrity champion after a convent school principal's brilliant intervention, and Mary's early battle to use Turnitin as a formative learning tool when the establishment called her "subversive" for doing so. From there, the trio explores their new book's key themes: the historical pattern of moral panic followed by thoughtful integration whenever new technologies disrupt education, the importance of students' ethical agency and moral responsibility, and practical strategies for teaching integrity rather than just policing violations. A standout thread is the insistence that students — even young ones — are fully capable of owning their ethical decisions when educators explain the why behind the guardrails, not just the rules themselves. You can follow Mary on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/professor-mary-davis-a47089167/ and Zeenath at https://www.linkedin.com/in/zeenath-reza-khan-phd-9490a348/. (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and Anthropic's Claude but edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    45 min
  7. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 54: Adam Pryor

    MAR 30

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 54: Adam Pryor

    "AI risks becoming that proverbial situation where everything looks like a nail because you've got a hammer in your hand.""The arcane mechanisms of an industrial age model of education that were meant to make human beings who efficiently produced for machines doesn't exist anymore."In this 54th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia sits down with Adam Pryor, Senior Advisor for AI Strategy and Engagement at the Council of Independent Colleges, for a lively and surprisingly convergent conversation between two people who assumed they'd disagree. Sparked by Adam's satirical LinkedIn collaboration with Darren Coxon imagining a surveillance-based future for academia (dubbed "the Pinopticon"), the conversation quickly moves beyond AI hype into deeper questions about pedagogy, institutional purpose, and what education is actually for. Adam shares his pastoral care-inspired teaching philosophy, his provocative grading experiments, and his vision for a 2045 university that is more distributed, free of credit hours and majors, and no longer reliant on the essay as its default assessment. Along the way, the two discover they share far more common ground than expected — agreeing that technological solutions alone won't fix education, that faculty need better training and more freedom, and that the real work lies in preserving the human-to-human learning experiences that no chatbot can replace.You can follow Adam on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-pryor/(Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using YouTube's transcript and Claude and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human.)

    52 min
  8. The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 53: Carter Moulton

    MAR 23

    The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 53: Carter Moulton

    “We're hearing a lot about efficiency and personalization and we're not hearing about things like care, transparency, and, intention.” “Our students are being bombarded with media messages about AI and help and what does help mean? That's such a loaded term.” In this 53rd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia talks with Carter Moulton, a faculty developer at Colorado School of Mines, about going “analog” on purpose in the age of generative AI. Carter shares the thinking behind his Analog Inspiration card deck—designed to help educators reconnect with values like care, presence, curiosity, and community, while also offering practical prompts for course and assessment redesign. Together they explore why “why” matters (especially when AI is being shoehorned into learning), how design can be an act of care, and how intentional analog moments can create focus, accountability, and human connection without slipping into nostalgia or reactionary “back to blue books” thinking. You can follow Carter on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/cartermoulton/ and learn more about his Analog Inspiration Card Deck at the Analog Inspiration Website. Show References: "Perceived Anonymity and Cheating in an Online Experiment" (Denisova-Schmidt et al. 2022) "The Analog Sandwich: Teaching Writing With and Without AI" Mark Marino (Disclaimer: episode quotes and summary were created using Youtube's Transcript and ChatGPT and edited by a human. Any errors are the responsibility of the human).

    41 min

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The Opposite of Cheating Podcast shares the real life experiences, thoughts, and talents of educators and professionals who are working to teach for integrity in the age of AI. The series features engaging conversations with brilliant innovators, teachers, leaders, and practitioners who are both resisting and integrating GenAI into their lives. The central value undergirding everything is, of course, integrity!

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