If You Know You Grow

Chantel Brayley

If You Know You Grow is a weekly ecommerce and marketing podcast that goes behind the scenes of building and scaling the brands everyone is obsessed with. Host Chantel Brayley is an Australian based brand and ecommerce consultant and fractional CMO, named one of the Top 50 People in eCommerce Australia. Some weeks it's a candid conversation with a founder or an expert on how they really did it, including the bits that went sideways. Other weeks Chantel goes solo on strategy, hiring, profitability and the parts of scaling that usually stay off the record. Nothing gets gatekept here.

  1. Aug 24

    Emily Elvey: Good Marketing Can’t Fix a Bad Experience

    Good marketing can get the customer through the door - but what happens next is what keeps them there. This week, Chantel is joined by customer experience expert Emily Elvey to unpack the part of business that too often gets overlooked: what it actually feels like to be your customer. With experience behind brands including MESHKI, THE ICONIC and M.J. Bale, Emily shares why customer experience is so much more than customer service, what brands get wrong when chasing acquisition without thinking about retention and why your CX team deserves a seat at the leadership table. They get into everything from loyalty programs and returns policies to AI agents, community, scaling pains and the small communication gaps that can completely erode customer trust. Plus, why customer experience might just be one of your most powerful forms of PR - because in the age of TikTok, one bad experience can travel very quickly. If you're spending money getting customers in but haven't thought enough about what happens once they arrive, this episode is for you. 🎧 In this episode: Why customer experience ≠ customer serviceWhat breaks in the customer journey as brands scaleAcquisition vs retention and why you need bothThe problem with treating CX as an afterthoughtAI, automation and the importance of good communicationWhy returns, policies and product issues are everyone's problemCustomer experience as community, retention and PRWhy understanding the psychology of your customer matters more than mapping a perfect funnelAnd, naturally, Emily shares five things that are expensive… but absolutely worth the money.

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If You Know You Grow is a weekly ecommerce and marketing podcast that goes behind the scenes of building and scaling the brands everyone is obsessed with. Host Chantel Brayley is an Australian based brand and ecommerce consultant and fractional CMO, named one of the Top 50 People in eCommerce Australia. Some weeks it's a candid conversation with a founder or an expert on how they really did it, including the bits that went sideways. Other weeks Chantel goes solo on strategy, hiring, profitability and the parts of scaling that usually stay off the record. Nothing gets gatekept here.

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