The Human Element | CHRO & HR Leadership Podcast

Barb Bidan | CHRO & AI in Human Resources Expert

AI is reshaping leadership, strategy, and the very role of HR. In each episode, the host Barb Bidan explores how AI drives innovation and leadership in HR with actionable insights for the future of work. Sponsor Wisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

  1. 2d ago

    Raising the capability bar for OTG's $140M airport leaders

    SummaryAlan House, Chief People Officer at OTG Concessions Management, runs HR for a hospitality business with more than 350 restaurant and retail locations in North American airports and more than 5,000 crew members. Some of those airport operations are $100 million-plus businesses on their own, which is why his current work is about raising the capability bar for the leaders who run them. Alan walks host Barb Bidan through what an airport director actually owns, the capability assessment OTG built to define great performance beyond the numbers, and how he measures an HR business partner: by the quality of the decisions they help leaders make. He closes with where his team's time goes once agentic AI takes the manual work, and the one business metric he wishes every HRBP understood. For CHROs, HRBPs and operating leaders in frontline businesses. Chapters00:00 Meet Alan House, Chief People Officer at OTG01:56 Why frontline hospitality businesses pull him in04:33 What surprised him about airport operations07:55 Capabilities and getting the right managers in place10:03 The airport director as a $140 million business leader15:08 Capability assessments that create clarity20:30 Great HR partnership starts with trust25:05 What AI gives back and the people-first culture27:14 Lightning round: adaptability, AI in 3 years, the metric HRBPs miss30:59 Takeaways and Alan's final word Takeaways- HR credibility is built when operational leaders see you understand their metrics: labor cost, productivity, turnover, guest experience, safety and profitability.- An airport director runs a standalone business of up to $140 million and 70 locations, so influencing and aligning people matters as much as financial expertise.- Capability assessments name the exact behaviors that define top performers and turn "be a better leader" into an action plan on the two biggest gaps.- OTG is folding 8 leadership capabilities into 2027 performance objectives with quarterly check-ins, so assessment and review stay joined at the hip.- An HRBP's value is the quality of the decisions they help leaders make, and the metric most still miss is how the business makes money. Connect with the GuestAlan House LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-house-hrCompany Website: https://www.otgexp.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit wisq.com.

    Raising the capability bar for OTG's $140M airport leaders
  2. 4d ago

    Real change vs. imagined emergencies: Syntax's approach to HR

    SummaryDessalen Wood has led people teams across retail, entertainment, and HR tech, from Disney Stores, Hudson's Bay, Reitmans, and Cineplex to CPO of ThoughtExchange, and now serves as Global Chief People Officer at Syntax, where she leads people strategy for 3,000 employees across 15 countries. On The Human Element, she and host Barb Bidan dig into how CHROs can separate real change from imagined emergencies when the function is constantly told it is about to be reinvented. Dessalen explains why the fundamentals of autonomy, feeling valued, and development matter more than any perk, why remote work alone never fixed retention, and how she buys time when a leader insists HR is behind. She also walks through the four stage AI maturity map Syntax used on its way to training 90% of employees and building more than 1,000 functional agents, and closes with lightning round views on assertiveness, career paths, and the question every CHRO should be asking. Chapters00:47 Meet Dessalen Wood01:59 Why she went back into the CHRO seat06:27 What the vendor side revealed about HR08:43 Autonomy, value and development as the fundamentals11:50 Remote work and the perks that stopped working13:42 Picking a few things and never rolling them back18:58 Handling imagined emergencies22:06 The lifeguard chair view of the CHRO role25:53 A four stage AI maturity map at Syntax32:00 Lightning round and the final word Takeaways- Design every people program around autonomy, feeling valued, and development, and test anything new, including AI enablement, against those three needs.- Flexibility or perks that mainly make leaving harder are not a culture; differentiate on a few things and keep them consistent in good years and bad.- When an imagined emergency lands, neither defend nor panic and agree; buy time so your executive function comes back online before you respond.- Keep your antenna out on the industry and the whole organization so big changes rarely arrive as a surprise.- Move through AI maturity in order: tooling and guardrails, enablement with clear expectations, measurable P&L impact, then reimagined roles and products. Connect with the GuestDessalen Wood LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dessalen-wood-b1192513/Company Website: https://www.syntax.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    Real change vs. imagined emergencies: Syntax's approach to HR
  3. Sep 29

    AI readiness starts with business acumen at OnPoint Group

    On The Human Element, Barb Bidan sits down with Dana Kellerman, Chief Human Resources Officer at OnPoint Group, for a practitioner's take on what AI readiness in HR actually requires. Dana spent more than fifteen years at GE, became a Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, held COO and CHRO responsibilities at the same time at Adirondack Health and Frontier Psychiatry, and was recruited to OnPoint Group to redesign a legacy HR function. Her argument: buying AI software is not readiness, and the organizations that get real value from it will be the ones with the leadership discipline, data quality, process clarity, governance and learning infrastructure to absorb it. She makes the case that most people problems are business problems first, that the skill gap AI will expose is business acumen combined with critical thinking, and that the HR leader of the future is a capability architect rather than a policy expert. She also rebuilds the function on a blank page around four priorities and names what she would cut. Essential listening for CHROs, VP People and HR leaders deciding where to invest next. Chapters00:50 Meet Dana Kellerman02:30 Rigor is an operating system, not a slogan03:20 What AI readiness actually requires06:33 The discipline gap outside GE09:39 Running COO and CHRO at the same time12:09 People problems are business problems first14:02 Getting an HR team into the business16:19 The HR skill gap AI will expose20:19 Redesigning HR on a blank page24:00 Where a CHRO should start25:50 Lightning round29:04 Final word: embrace the change Takeaways- AI readiness is an organizational capability challenge, not a system implementation, and it depends on leadership discipline, data quality, process clarity, governance, learning infrastructure and cultural trust.- The organizations that get the most value from AI are not the earliest adopters, they are the ones that built business acumen, critical thinking and adaptability before they needed them.- Most business problems surface as people problems eventually, but most people problems start as poor strategy, poor structural decisions or poor processes.- AI will outperform any HR professional at producing information, so the durable value sits in diagnosing business problems and turning information into decisions.- An HR function rebuilt for this era organizes around workforce strategy, organizational effectiveness, capability development and people analytics, and stops measuring activity instead of outcomes. Connect with the GuestDana Kellerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danakellerman/Company Website: https://www.onpointgroup.comForbes: How a strong company culture influences retention: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbeshumanresourcescouncil/2026/02/25/how-a-strong-company-culture-influences-retention/Forbes: Why HR burnout is a hidden crisis in people management: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbeshumanresourcescouncil/2026/06/26/why-hr-burnout-is-a-hidden-crisis-in-people-management/Facility Executive: Your culture is your operating system: https://facilityexecutive.com/your-culture-is-your-operating-system-heres-how-to-actually-run-it/Top 10 Inspiring Women Leaders in 2026: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/top-10-inspiring-women-leaders-in-2026/ar-AA206Ri9CIO Views: Top 10 Most Influential HR Executives in Business 2022: https://cioviews.com/digital/2022/november/top-10-most-influential-hr-executives-in-business-2022-nov-30/ SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate, designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com (00:50) - Meet Dana Kellerman (02:30) - Rigor is an operating system, not a slogan (03:20) - What AI readiness actually requires (06:33) - The discipline gap outside GE (09:39) - Running COO and CHRO at the same time (12:09) - People problems are business problems first (14:02) - Getting an HR team into the business (16:19) - The HR skill gap AI will expose (20:19) - Redesigning HR on a blank page (24:00) - Where a CHRO should start (25:50) - Lightning round (29:04) - Final word: embrace the change

    AI readiness starts with business acumen at OnPoint Group
  4. Sep 15

    How Illumio got its whole people team using AI

    SummaryWhat actually changes when AI arrives in HR, and what stays exactly the same? In this episode of The Human Element, host Barb Bidan talks with L. David Kingsley, Chief People Officer at Illumio, whose career began implementing PeopleSoft from CD-ROMs at Accenture before leading people functions at MuleSoft, Alteryx, Intercom, and Salesforce. David explains why there has never been a time of no change, why 300,000 years of human brain development did not shift in the last nine months, and how he got his entire people team to adopt AI by making everyone build and name their own agent (meet LL Coolpay). He shares the workforce planning win that took HRBPs from a blank page to 70 percent of a solution, draws the line between what a chatbot should handle and what a human must, and names the half-solved problem of AI work nobody owns: if it took five minutes to produce, it should not take 30 minutes to read. A conversation for CHROs and people leaders who want to move fast with AI without losing the human element. Chapters00:00 Welcome and introduction02:45 There has never been a time of no change07:45 The human brain has not changed in 300,000 years09:45 What stays human and what gets automated11:45 Name your agent: how Illumio's people team started with AI14:45 Workforce planning at 70 percent before the first meeting17:45 The five minute deliverable problem22:30 Define success before you start26:30 What vendors are underestimating about adoption28:45 What HR looks like in five years33:45 Lightning round and fill your own cup Takeaways- There has never been a time of no change. HR has lived through mainframes, the internet, cloud, and every ERP migration, and this AI wave is faster but not fundamentally different.- Human beings have not changed in the last nine months. Automate the transactional moments, like a shipment status, and protect the human moments, like a maternity leave conversation.- Make AI adoption personal and fun. Illumio's people team each built and named their own agent, which forced clear scopes and made it obvious the tools work for the people, not the other way around.- If it took five minutes to produce and 30 minutes to read, you are being disrespectful to your audience. Use AI to start, QA, and accelerate the work, but own every word you publish.- Define success before you start. Spending 20 minutes of the hour on what success looks like makes the other 40 valuable, and it keeps you from ending up in Dubuque when you were headed to Chicago. Connect with the GuestL. David Kingsley LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ldavidkingsley/Company Website: https://www.illumio.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    How Illumio got its whole people team using AI
  5. Sep 8

    Why Sweetwater treats AI like an Iron Man suit, not a replacement

    SummaryHow does a company whose entire business model is built on human relationships decide what to do with AI? In this episode of The Human Element, host Barb Bidan sits down with Jeff Ostermann, Chief People and Culture Officer at Sweetwater, the largest online musical instrument and audio equipment retailer in the US. Jeff shares how Sweetwater drew an uncompromising line around the human element before adopting AI, why they treat technology like an Iron Man suit that gives their 600 sales engineers superpowers, why every customer keeps one dedicated relationship with zero handoffs, and how the company's five imperatives extend the definition of customer to candidates and colleagues. A conversation for HR leaders deciding what stays human as AI reshapes the workplace. Chapters00:00 Introducing Jeff Ostermann and the Sweetwater story02:30 From finance to people leadership05:15 Art and science: bringing data into HR07:05 The founding story behind 600 sales engineers08:55 Treating AI like an Iron Man suit10:30 Where AI fits into the customer relationship14:15 One relationship, zero handoffs17:35 Everybody is our customer: AI inside HR20:45 Balancing optimization with culture24:30 Lightning round: AI tools and human decisions Takeaways- AI should work like an Iron Man suit: wrap it around your people to give them superpowers, but keep a human in the middle steering every decision with heart.- Every handoff you add to a process is a new place for cracks to form; one trusted expert relationship builds more loyalty than a chain of specialists.- Everybody is your customer, including the candidates you recruit and the colleagues down the hall, so the care you promise externally has to show up internally too.- Use AI to clear away routine questions and administrative work so your HR team can focus on the situations that truly require a human touch.- Some decisions should never be automated: a human must own the final hiring call and be prepared to develop and coach the person they bring onto the team. Connect with the GuestJeff Ostermann LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffostermann/Company Website: https://www.sweetwater.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    Why Sweetwater treats AI like an Iron Man suit, not a replacement
  6. Sep 1

    Data and Humanity Were Never in Tension

    SummaryHow do you build a culture with both high psychological safety and high accountability? In this episode of The Human Element, host Barb Bidan talks with Maura Stevenson, Chief Human Resources Officer at MedVet, about her 20-year case that data and humanity were never in tension. Maura built Starbucks' people analytics function from scratch in 2004, connected people data to restaurant performance at Wendy's, and now leads HR for 3,500 team members across MedVet's 45 veterinary hospitals. She explains why the data people and the OD people are twins separated at birth, how a simple grid resolves the "too much psychological safety" debate, why clear is kind and nice is just conflict avoidance, and how ambient listening AI is saving MedVet's ER doctors up to two hours of charting a day. A conversation for CHROs and HR leaders who want technology and data to make their organizations more human, not less. Chapters00:00 Welcome and introduction02:45 Building Partner Insights at Starbucks in 200405:15 Turn the page: simple data storytelling07:45 The data people and the OD people10:45 AI and qualitative data at scale17:15 Caring and accountability belong together19:45 The psychological safety and accountability grid21:45 Clear is kind24:45 Systems that give caregivers time back29:15 Lightning round Takeaways- People analytics and organizational development are the same discipline. Both follow a research path to understand human behavior individually and at scale.- You cannot have too much psychological safety, but high safety with no accountability creates a culture of complacency.- Clear is kind. Nice avoids conflict, while kindness pairs psychological safety with honest feedback and accountability.- Data does not have to be fancy to be powerful. Simple storytelling that illuminates what leaders sense but cannot prove is what drives action.- AI earns its place when it gives people time back, like ambient listening software saving MedVet's ER doctors up to two hours of charting a day. Connect with the GuestMaura Stevenson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maurastevenson/Company Website: https://www.medvet.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    Data and Humanity Were Never in Tension
  7. Aug 27

    AI Readiness Is a Culture Problem Before It's a Skill Problem

    SummaryWhat does it actually take to make a workforce AI ready? In this episode of The Human Element, host Barb Bidan sits down with Miki Virtue, VP of Human Resources, to unpack why AI readiness is a culture problem before it is a skill problem (Miki's views and opinions are not associated with the company she works for, this episode represents herself alone). Miki shares why AI rewards curiosity and punishes certainty, why a workforce trained to never be wrong is a culture gap rather than a skill gap, what prompt fluency is and why it mirrors great interviewing, how she uses AI to make workforce data predictive, and the one-decision-at-a-time playbook any HR leader can start on Monday morning. For HR leaders, CHROs, and people teams navigating AI adoption. Chapters00:00 Introducing Miki Virtue02:40 You can't teach someone to be curious04:35 Leading workforce strategy for AI adoption05:30 Why AI punishes the comfortable with wrong08:00 Making workforce data predictive with AI10:15 Prompt fluency, the missing HR skill11:50 Stop naming the gap, start closing it16:10 Data literacy plus intellectual courage18:55 Same problem, different costume across industries23:10 Lightning round and final word Takeaways- AI rewards curiosity and punishes certainty. The first thing to assess in AI readiness is not tools or skills but whether people are curious enough to question confident answers.- A workforce trained for 20 years that being wrong is a career risk has a culture gap, not a skill gap. Psychological safety, rich feedback, and honest coaching come before any upskilling program.- Prompt fluency, knowing how to push back on an AI's output and ask better questions, is the same skill as great interviewing, and almost nobody in HR is developing it deliberately.- Stop naming the gap and start closing it. Pick one weekly decision, ask what data would make you less wrong, and repeat. Monday morning is permission.- Your gut is a hypothesis and data is how you test it. Data literacy plus the intellectual courage to say "I was wrong" is what lets HR walk into the CFO's office with a number instead of a feeling. Connect with the GuestMiki Virtue LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/miki-v/ SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    AI Readiness Is a Culture Problem Before It's a Skill Problem
  8. Aug 25

    Where the Hard Line Sits Between AI and Human Judgment

    SummaryWhere exactly should the line sit between AI and human judgment? Emilie Schmitz, Chief Human Resources Officer at Ryze Claim Solutions, joins host Barb Bidan to answer that question inside a business built entirely on judgment calls. Ryze handles claims across auto, trucking, construction, and catastrophe response, and it holds one hard line: AI can support documentation, data gathering, and communication, but it never makes a decision, in claims or in HR. Emilie shares the training module her team built with an intentional AI mistake inside to keep critical thinking alive, the compensation analysis that consolidated sixty five job titles with AI building the structure and humans placing the people, and the light bulb moment when Claude reproduced her hand-built turnover analysis in minutes. A practical conversation for HR leaders deciding what stays human in an AI-forward organization. Chapters00:00 Introduction and meet Emilie Schmitz02:40 Change management as the career through line05:00 Supporting adjusters on roofs and on the road07:40 One voice for a desk, field, and 1099 workforce09:35 The hard line: AI never makes the decision11:15 Sixty five job titles and the comp analysis13:45 The turnover spreadsheet light bulb moment17:55 The training module with a mistake built in20:45 AI readiness, fear, and testing the waters24:45 Lightning round: payroll, trust, and empathy Takeaways- AI is encouraged for documentation, information gathering, and communication at Ryze, but decisions in claims and HR are always made by a human- An intentional AI mistake built into Ryze's training module teaches employees that AI wants to please and must be double-checked with critical thinking- AI built Ryze's job level structure and compa ratio research, but placing each employee in a level took hour-long conversations with every manager- Automating administrative work, like cutting health bill reconciliation from four hours to four minutes, frees small HR teams to focus on developing people- Leaders rolling out change should remember that not everyone shares their enthusiasm, and over-communicating in multiple formats is the safest default Connect with the GuestEmilie Schmitz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilie-schmitz/Company Website: https://www.ryzeclaims.com SponsorWisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

    Where the Hard Line Sits Between AI and Human Judgment
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AI is reshaping leadership, strategy, and the very role of HR. In each episode, the host Barb Bidan explores how AI drives innovation and leadership in HR with actionable insights for the future of work. Sponsor Wisq is the AI platform for HR. We built Harper, the world's first AI HR teammate — designed to handle the judgment-heavy work that has historically consumed HR teams: job changes, performance concerns, leaves of absence, onboarding, and employee relations issues. Where HCM bolt-ons and chatbots deflect the easiest questions, Harper resolves full cases, end-to-end. The result is an HR function with the capacity and strategic bandwidth to focus on the work that moves the business. Companies get Harper live in weeks, not quarters, with implementation support built on deep HR domain expertise. Wisq serves HR leaders at leading companies across industries, helping them raise the bar on employee experience and expand what their teams are capable of. For more information, visit https://www.wisq.com

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