In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jason Wersland, the founder of Therabody, to explore how nervous system regulation shapes recovery, performance, and healing. Jason works with many of the best athletes and teams in the world, and his perspective on pain is deeply personal, shaped by a motorcycle accident that changed his life and ultimately led to the creation of the Theragun. We talk about how he would design a recovery protocol before and after surgery, what percussive therapy is actually doing to our muscles and nervous system, and why the ability to up or down regulate on command may be one of the most underrated skills in health. We dive into whether biohacking can make us more fragile, why I skip coffee on surgery days, how I use ketones and creatine to support my patients around surgery, and the travel essentials that keep both of us sleeping well on the road. Jason also walks me through his daily wellness routine, from training and naps to sauna, cold plunge, and contrast therapy, and we trade answers in a rapid fire round of agree or disagree questions. We close with his incredible experience seeing golden hour through colorblind glasses for the first time, what it means to be in your prime, and how principles guide better decisions as we get older. If you’re interested in recovery, surgery, performance, longevity, or simply feeling better in your own body, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at what it really takes to regulate, heal, and thrive. CONNECT WITH DR. JASON WERSLAND Website: https://www.therabody.com/ Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjasonwersland/?hl=en Therabody Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therabody/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Therabody CONNECT WITH HOST Website: https://5c.co/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chesnut.md/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chesnutMD LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-chesnut-a6910baa/ WAYS TO WATCH/LISTEN YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@5CodesPodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1FZ7vpmq21iA1noPcFhixb?si=992ef6c8d859463f Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-codes-podcast/id1866214238 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5codespodcast/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introducing Dr. Jason Wersland 01:15 - Designing a Recovery Protocol for Surgery 06:12 - A Motorcycle Accident and a New Relationship With Pain 10:52 - What a Theragun Is Actually Doing 14:48 - Up and Down Regulating Your Nervous System 17:26 - Nervous System Control and Peak Performance 19:04 - Why I Skip Coffee on Surgery Days 21:33 - Can Biohacking Make You More Fragile? 25:33 - Pillows, Travel Essentials, and Beating Jet Lag 29:34 - Ketones and Creatine Around Surgery 34:19 - Inside Jason’s Daily Wellness Routine 39:47 - Treating Muscles in a Neutral Position 43:00 - Protecting Your Mornings and the Seasons of Life 45:43 - Sauna, Cold Plunge, and Contrast Therapy 50:45 - Balance Training, EMDR, and the Cathedral Effect 54:57 - Agree or Disagree Rapid Fire 59:59 - Is Biohacking Mostly Marketing? 1:02:26 - Sunlight, Skin Health, and Finding the Middle Ground 1:05:19 - Colorblindness and Seeing Golden Hour for the First Time 1:09:26 - When Is Your Prime? 1:17:46 - Making Faster, Principle Based Decisions 1:24:25 - Closing Thoughts ABOUT HOST Dr. Cameron Chesnut is the host of the 5 Codes Podcast and the founder of 5C, where he leads a team dedicated to integrative cosmetic surgery, regenerative medicine, and functional health. An internationally recognized facial plastic surgeon, Dr. Chesnut is known for producing natural, refined results that enhance rather than alter one’s appearance. His approach blends surgical precision with biological optimization and disciplined restraint, drawing patients from around the world who value excellence, longevity, and holistic care. On the 5 Codes Podcast, Dr. Chesnut uncovers the mindsets and evidence-backed strategies he lives by, helping high performers perform better, recover smarter, and feel their best in every area of life. DISCLAIMER The views shared on this podcast are my own and are not associated with, affiliated with, or representative of my clinical teaching role at the University of Washington School of Medicine. This content is for general educational purposes only and should not be considered individualized medical advice.