Nancy Guthrie Missing: Savannah Guthrie's Mom Taken for Ransom

Joel Waldman

The 84 year old mother of NBC Today Show Host Savannah Guthrie is missing after she was suddenly taken from her home in Tucson, Az. A week later, Sheriff deputies and the FBI are desperately trying to find Nancy Guthrie after receiving two anonymous ransom notes. Time is running out as the Guthrie family continues to look for answers about their mom's whereabouts.

  1. Aug 4

    Nancy Guthrie: New Evidence, Ransom Notes Released & Sheriff Speaks | STS with ‪@drgexplains‬​

    The Nancy Guthrie investigation takes another turn as new evidence and ransom notes are released, while the sheriff speaks about the ongoing search. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, STS sits down with ‪@drgexplains‬ to examine the evidence, the latest ransom communications, and what investigators may be looking for next. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson, Arizona, important questions remain about the timeline, evidence, and potential leads. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the newly released ransom notes, discuss the latest evidence, and examine what the sheriff is saying about the investigation. We also look at how expert analysis can help make sense of complex cases while exploring survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories. What do these new developments mean for the search, and could they help investigators get closer to answers? Key Points Covered New evidence in the Nancy Guthrie investigation Ransom notes released and examined Sheriff speaks about the ongoing case Expert analysis from ‪@drgexplains‬ Timeline, leads, and unanswered questions Continued search efforts in Tucson, Arizona Six months after Nancy Guthrie vanished from her home in Tucson, Arizona, investigators are revealing significant new developments in one of America's most heartbreaking missing person cases. In this special Surviving the Survivor (STS) investigation, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and our #BestGuests break down the newly released ransom notes, Sheriff Chris Nanos' latest comments, the evolving timeline, and what these new clues could reveal about the person responsible for Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. Could the language inside the ransom notes finally identify the kidnapper? Why were the notes released now? What does the latest evidence tell us about the investigation, and could this be the break detectives have been waiting for? We analyze the facts, the unanswered questions, and where the investigation goes from here as authorities continue searching for Nancy six months after her abduction. Whether you've followed this case from the beginning or are just learning about it, this episode brings you the latest reporting, expert analysis, and everything you need to know about the search for Nancy Guthrie, the investigation in Tucson, AZ, and the newest developments involving the released ransom notes.Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analysis. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  2. Jul 28

    Nancy Guthrie's Ransom Note REVEALED: Are Investigation Delays Helping the Suspect?

    The Nancy Guthrie case takes another dramatic turn as investigators examine a newly revealed ransom note and whether delays in the investigation may be benefiting the suspect. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, authorities in Tucson, Arizona continue reviewing evidence, analyzing communications, and following every credible lead. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, questions are growing about whether valuable time has been lost and how that could affect the outcome of the case. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the contents of the newly revealed ransom note, discuss how investigative delays can impact major missing person cases, and examine what law enforcement may still be doing behind the scenes. We also explore how survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories help keep attention on active investigations and encourage new tips from the public. Join us as we analyze the latest developments, the evidence, and what could happen next in the search for answers.Key Points Covered Newly revealed ransom note examined Could investigation delays be helping the suspect? Latest evidence and investigative updates Sheriff and FBI efforts in Tucson, Arizona Why public awareness remains critical Nancy Guthrie's newly released ransom note is raising new questions as investigators continue searching for answers. In this episode, we examine what the note reveals, why key delays in the investigation have become a growing concern, and how lost time may have affected the search for evidence. Join us as we break down the latest developments in the Nancy Guthrie case with expert analysis, discussing what these updates could mean for the ongoing investigation and the pursuit of justice. Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analysis.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  3. Jul 11

    Nancy Guthrie's Investigation Affected by More Missteps, Info Leaks & Possible Planted Evidence?!

    The Nancy Guthrie investigation faces new challenges as questions arise about investigative missteps, information leaks, and allegations of possible planted evidence. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, we examine how these developments could impact the search, the integrity of the investigation, and the efforts of authorities in Tucson, Arizona. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, investigators are working to verify evidence, follow credible leads, and keep the case moving forward. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the reported investigative issues, discuss how information leaks can affect high-profile cases, and examine why preserving evidence is critical in any missing person investigation. We also explore how survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories highlight the importance of accurate investigations and public awareness. Join us as we analyze the latest developments, what they could mean for the case, and the unanswered questions investigators continue to face.Key Points Covered Reported investigative missteps and their potential impact Questions surrounding information leaks Allegations involving possible planted evidence Ongoing investigation in Tucson, Arizona How investigators protect evidence in major cases Nancy Guthrie is Still Missing and Few Details are Confirmed about Who Took Nancy--and Why. Months later what we do know is there are new concerns about the FBI's recent missteps, more leaked information, confusion over ransom notes and a possibility that media planted evidence at the scene. How does this all play out and what does it mean for the investigation? STS #BestGuests break it all down for us in this episode of Surviving the Survivor. Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analysis.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  4. Jun 29

    Breaking: New Anonymous Note Claims They Have Video of Nancy Guthrie & Suspect on Their Phone

    The Nancy Guthrie case takes another shocking turn as a new anonymous note claims the sender has video of Nancy Guthrie and a possible suspect on their phone. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, investigators are working to determine whether the alleged video is credible and if it could provide the breakthrough the case desperately needs. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson, Arizona, authorities are urging anyone with information to come forward. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the contents of the new anonymous note, what investigators typically do when a potential video surfaces, and whether this latest claim could lead to new evidence. We also explore how survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories help keep public attention on active investigations and generate valuable tips. Could this alleged video finally provide answers, or is it another false lead in the growing mystery surrounding Nancy Guthrie's disappearance? Key Points Covered New anonymous note claims to contain video of Nancy Guthrie and a suspect Investigators examine the credibility of the alleged footage Ongoing search efforts in Tucson, Arizona How potential digital evidence is analyzed in missing person cases The importance of public tips and continued awareness BREAKING: A new demand letter in the Nancy Guthrie case is raising major questions after the sender now claims to have video of Nancy with her alleged kidnappers. In this Surviving the Survivor episode, Joel Waldman & #BestGuests Fil Waters & Scott Duffey break down what’s been reported, what investigators are saying, and whether this latest message is real or another possible hoax.  Authorities are working to verify the claim as pressure builds and confusion grows around the credibility of the ransom communications. What does this alleged video mean for the investigation—and is there any proof it actually exists? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below. Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analy... Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  5. Jun 25

    Ransom Note says Nancy Guthrie is "Buried with Nature" & What Howard Blum's Sources told Him

    The Nancy Guthrie case takes another dramatic turn as a new ransom note claims Nancy Guthrie is "buried with nature," raising more questions about what happened and whether the message is credible. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, acclaimed journalist Howard Blum reveals what his sources are telling him about the investigation, the ransom letters, and where the case may be headed. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, investigators in Tucson, Arizona are working to separate fact from misinformation while pursuing every possible lead. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the disturbing new ransom note, examine Howard Blum's reporting, and discuss what these latest developments could mean for the case. We also explore how survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories keep public attention focused on investigations that desperately need answers. Could this latest message contain a real clue, or is it another attempt to mislead investigators? We examine the evidence, the theories, and the unanswered questions surrounding the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. Key Points Covered New ransom note claims Nancy Guthrie is "buried with nature" Howard Blum shares information from his sources Investigators examine the credibility of the latest message Ongoing search efforts in Tucson, Arizona What these developments could mean for the future of the caseLinks and show info Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analysis.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  6. Jun 24

    NEW! Nancy Guthrie Ransom Letter Alleges Gruesome Details & Mexico Volunteers Take STS Inside Search

    The Nancy Guthrie case takes another shocking turn as a new ransom letter alleges disturbing details about Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, investigators are reviewing the credibility of the letter while search efforts continue both in Arizona and beyond. As the search for Nancy Guthrie intensifies, volunteers in Mexico give STS an inside look at the ongoing efforts to uncover new clues and keep hope alive. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the contents of the latest ransom letter, discuss what investigators may be looking for, and go inside the volunteer search efforts. We also explore how survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, sts podcast, real crime stories continue to keep public attention focused on active investigations. From the emotional toll on families to the determination of search teams, this episode examines the latest developments and what they could mean for the future of the Nancy Guthrie case.Key Points Covered New ransom letter alleges disturbing details Investigators assess the credibility of the latest claims Mexico volunteers take STS inside search efforts Ongoing search and evidence review Public involvement and continued hope for answers Shocking ransom letter details have surfaced in the case of Nancy, claiming her death was a tragic accident and raising even more questions about what really happened.  Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code SURVIVING at https://cowboycolostrum.com/surviving  Join STS' Joel Waldman and an all-star panel of #BestGuests as we discuss the new details allegedly released, the credibility, and examine what it could mean for the investigation moving forward. Plus, STS speaks directly with volunteers risking their safety while searching remote and rugged areas of Mexico for answers. Don't miss this deep dive into one of the newest developments yet in the search for justice for Nancy. Subscribe, Like & Set Alerts to "ALL" for show times & breaking news. https://www.youtube.com/@SurvivingThe... Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yr... Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions. Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories. From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases. Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-dep... Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  7. Jun 11

    Are there new leads in the Nancy Guthrie Investigation?

    The Nancy Guthrie investigation may be entering a new phase as questions grow about whether investigators have uncovered fresh leads. In this latest update on Nancy Guthrie, authorities in Tucson, Arizona continue reviewing evidence, following tips, and examining new information that could move the case forward. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, law enforcement remains focused on identifying credible leads and separating fact from speculation. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the latest developments, discuss what qualifies as a meaningful lead in a missing person investigation, and examine where the case stands today. We also explore insights from survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, real crime stories, and the STS Podcast community, highlighting how persistence and public awareness can help generate breakthroughs. Could new evidence finally provide answers, or are investigators still waiting for the one tip that changes everything?Key Points Covered in This Episode Possible new leads in the Nancy Guthrie investigation Ongoing evidence review and tip analysis Sheriff and law enforcement efforts in Tucson, Arizona Challenges investigators face in long-running cases Lessons from cold cases and real crime stories Disclaimer: NMLS #182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 866-890-9489 for details about credit, costs and terms. Visit https://AmericanFinancing.net/Surviving. Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99  Surviving The Survivor is a leading destination for true crime analysis, breaking crime news, murder trial coverage, criminal investigations, courtroom breakdowns, and live case discussions.  Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman and his mother Karm, a child Holocaust survivor, STS brings together top FBI profilers, homicide detectives, criminal defense attorneys, prosecutors, forensic experts, journalists, victims' advocates, and survivors to analyze the biggest true crime stories.  From high-profile murder cases and missing persons investigations to serial killers, criminal psychology, police procedures, and major court trials, STS delivers fact-based reporting and expert insight from those who have worked some of the nation's most notorious cases.  Known for having the best guest in true crime, STS gives viewers direct access to the experts behind the headlines. Join #STSNation for live shows, breaking updates, audience Q&As, and in-depth case analysis. Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com       Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  8. May 14

    100 Days Missing: Where is Nancy Guthrie? And Who Knows the Truth? Investigators Weigh In on Case

    The Nancy Guthrie case reaches a heartbreaking milestone as Nancy Guthrie has now been missing for 100 days. In this major update on Nancy Guthrie, investigators weigh in on where the case stands, who may know the truth, and why the disappearance continues to haunt both law enforcement and the public. As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson, Arizona, questions remain about evidence, timelines, and whether someone close to the case is withholding critical information. In this STS Podcast episode, we break down the latest investigative insights, what experts believe may still be missing from the timeline, and how long-term missing person cases evolve over time. We also explore lessons from survivor stories, true crime news, cold cases, real crime stories, and discussions within the STS Podcast community, highlighting the importance of public awareness and persistence. This episode examines the emotional toll after 100 days, the pressure on investigators, and whether a breakthrough in the Nancy Guthrie case could still happen.Key Points Covered in This Episode Nancy Guthrie missing for 100 days Investigators discuss possible unanswered questions Timeline gaps and evidence concerns examined Public pressure and ongoing search efforts in Tucson, Arizona Comparisons to cold cases and real crime stories In this episode of Surviving the Survivor, Emmy Award-Winning Host Joel Waldman is joined by #BestGuests Kurt Dabb, Bob Krygier, and Phil Ramos to break down the biggest clues, red flags, investigative twists, and what law enforcement could be doing behind the scenes right now. Is someone hiding the truth? And could the key to solving Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance already be out there?  #NancyGuthrie #MissingPerson #TrueCrime #SurvivingTheSurvivor #JoelWaldman #ColdCase #CrimeNews #Investigation #BestGuests #STS Support the show & be a part of #STSNation: Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ... VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcast Check out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLx Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivor Email: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The 84 year old mother of NBC Today Show Host Savannah Guthrie is missing after she was suddenly taken from her home in Tucson, Az. A week later, Sheriff deputies and the FBI are desperately trying to find Nancy Guthrie after receiving two anonymous ransom notes. Time is running out as the Guthrie family continues to look for answers about their mom's whereabouts.