Doing the Work

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Doing the Work shows us what self-development looks like through the personal stories of Jill Loree and Scott Wisler. Drawing on the teachings of the Pathwork Guide, they take us into the places where spiritual growth actually happens: relationships, family, grief, addiction, sexuality, money, conflict, crisis, shame and spiritual confusion. Most importantly, Jill and Scott don’t talk as people who have somehow arrived. They show themselves doing the work—being wrong, reactive, frightened, stubborn and confused, and learning to become more real. The teachings give us the map. These personal stories let us see what the terrain actually looks like.

  1. Episode 1

    Introduction for Doing the Work

    Doing the Work briefly introduces key Pathwork topics you will face if you want to do this deep work of self-discovery. Then Jill and Scott bring the Pathwork to life through personal stories and examples from their own journey with these teachings. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  2. Episode 2

    1 Step, together, step: The Process

    Jill shares how entering recovery from alcoholism at age 26 became the beginning of a deeper journey toward self-knowledge and a relationship with something greater than herself. Scott tells how his relentless pursuit of becoming an Ironman ultimately broke his body open, forcing him to look beneath his drive to understand what was really motivating him—and what it meant to heal on every level. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  3. Episode 3

    2 Living in a 100-story house: The Setup

    Jill shares how a lifelong story about being overlooked as a woman was triggered during an early ski trip with Scott, causing her to feel once again that something was fundamentally wrong with her. Scott tells the same story from his perspective, revealing how his own inner reaction and tendency to withdraw unintentionally activated Jill’s old wound—and how both of them were caught in their own stories without seeing what was really happening. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  4. Episode 4

    3 Building castles in the sky: Reality

    Jill and Scott revisit their difficult ski trip and share what they discovered beneath the surface of what seemed to be a simple disconnect between them. Jill describes recognizing how deeply her old wound around emotional unavailability was affecting her, while Scott explores his own pattern of retreating inward when he feels abandoned—and how they learned to recognize these patterns and find their way back to connection. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  5. Episode 5

    4 I’m totally fine, I feel nothing: Numbness

    Jill shares how the devastating death of her young niece, Sarah, broke through a numbness she had lived with for years and ultimately opened the door to a much deeper spiritual path. Scott describes discovering, during his first Pathwork group process, just how deeply he had frozen his feelings—and the long, deliberate practice it took to learn how to truly feel them again. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  6. Episode 6

    5 Would I rather be right or happy? Duality

    Jill shares the painful end of her ten-year marriage, when she found herself caught between two choices that both seemed destined to hurt. Scott describes how taking on a major leadership role revealed that his workplace was mirroring his own inner conflicts—and how looking honestly at those reflections helped him recognize a split between compassion and firmness that was affecting the people around him. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  7. Episode 7

    6 Praying for a toehold: Truth

    Jill shares a moment when being overlooked at work triggered an old wound around not being seen, and how praying to know the truth helped her recognize what was really happening. Scott tells of being stranded outside an airport in Jakarta after being denied boarding, and how the experience exposed his conflicting needs to feel special, seen and loved—giving him an opportunity to meet those younger parts of himself with greater maturity. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

  8. Episode 8

    7 So you’re the rubber and I’m the glue? Our Work

    Jill shares how looking closely at her recurring experiences of being seen—and not being seen—helped her uncover a deep inner split rooted in childhood. Scott describes discovering a surprising belief he had carried since his mother’s illness and death: that if he truly looked at life, she would die, and how bringing this hidden belief into awareness began to free him from its grip. Listen to Doing the Work Return to Doing the Work Contents

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Doing the Work shows us what self-development looks like through the personal stories of Jill Loree and Scott Wisler. Drawing on the teachings of the Pathwork Guide, they take us into the places where spiritual growth actually happens: relationships, family, grief, addiction, sexuality, money, conflict, crisis, shame and spiritual confusion. Most importantly, Jill and Scott don’t talk as people who have somehow arrived. They show themselves doing the work—being wrong, reactive, frightened, stubborn and confused, and learning to become more real. The teachings give us the map. These personal stories let us see what the terrain actually looks like.

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  • Creator
    Phoenesse
  • Episodes
    18
  • Seasons
    1
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Phoenesse
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    Doing the Work