Few figures in American government are as beloved—or as vilified—as Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In this episode of The Mothership, he sits down with Daphne Oz for a revealing conversation about the advice his father gave him at 14 that shaped his lifelong commitment to critical thinking, courage, and a higher calling. From Big Tobacco's move into Big Food, to the alarming rise of Alpha-gal syndrome and the tick bite behind it, Secretary Kennedy shares his perspective on some of the most urgent challenges facing American health. He also explores the future of regenerative farming, how AI and emerging technologies could help American farmers move away from chemical-intensive agriculture, and what it will take to make healthier food more accessible to everyone. Secretary Kennedy and Daphne head into the kitchen to make her famous “Faux Tuna” Chickpea Salad, a delicious example of what it looks like to eat inexpensive, uncomplicated, real food. See this and other easy recipes like it featured on the Secretary’s new cooking show, Eat Real Food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMrXDx0lb-A And in deeply personal moments throughout, Secretary Kennedy reflects on how he really feels about his critics, pain as a touchstone for spiritual growth, the role faith has played throughout his life, and the extraordinary ways he believes God speaks to him. A wide-ranging conversation about the future of American food and health—and the man on a mission to change both. What You’ll Learn Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome to The Mothership with RFK Jr. 00:05:02 Pigeons, Hawks, and Falconry: The Surprising Origin Story 00:07:35 The $3 Meal That Meets Dietary Guidelines 00:09:31 Ultra-Processed Food & the Tobacco Playbook 00:12:20 Choice Not Coercion: The FDA's Real Job 00:13:27 Regenerative Agriculture 00:19:05 Farmers, Lasers, & the Future of Food: Real Stories from the Field 00:21:06 Pollution as Privatization 00:24:26 Alpha-gal & the Spread of Ticks 00:27:36 Fearlessness, Faith, & the Gift of Opposition 00:30:02 The Thanksgiving Table: Family, Friendship, & Cheryl's Cooking Featured Guest Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the 26th U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, an environmental attorney, author, and longtime public health advocate. The son of Senator Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of President John F. Kennedy, his life has been shaped by a legacy of public service, deep faith, personal tragedy, and a commitment to questioning the status quo. After decades fighting pollution and protecting America’s waterways and natural resources, Kennedy turned his attention to the relationship between our environment, food safety, and the health of our families. As Secretary, he leads the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) initiative, focused on addressing chronic disease, improving America’s food supply, and reshaping the nation’s approach to public health. A father of seven, he remains a fierce advocate for personal health freedom and the power of informed individuals to make good choices. Follow The Mothership Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themothershippod TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themothershippod Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/themothershippod X - https://x.com/themothershipp Substack - https://themothershippod.substack.com/ www.mothershippod.com