Proverbs & Policy

For two thousand years, Christian social thought has shaped how societies are built, how institutions serve their people, and how we live together well. That wisdom has something essential to say about the biggest questions facing public life today—questions that politics alone was never equipped to answer. Episode by episode, hosts Ray Pennings and Andreae Sennyah bring the wisdom of Christian social thought to bear on the defining cultural and policy questions of our time, in conversation with the thinkers who are wrestling with them intensely, and the leaders building our shared future.

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  1. 1d ago

    Why Aren't Young People Dating or Having Kids? — Christine Emba

    Fertility rates are falling across the world, regardless of the policies that different countries have in place. Christine Emba asks why, and finds that while policy matters, it's not going to be the total solution: Many of these fertility rate problems are actually just downstream of this larger problem of finding a partner.  In part 2, cohosts Andreae Sennyah and Ray Pennings reflect on a very personal topic . . . which really comes down to bigger issues of community, belonging, and relationships with others, and why the state actually exists to serve and support the family, not the other way around. Notes 00:00 Welcome; guest Christine Emba of the American Enterprise Institute 02:00 Fertility rate at historic lows: Canada 1.25, the United States 1.6 04:00 Why people are not having kids: cost, child care, and a scary world 06:00 "Is there a policy solution to all of this?"; baby bonuses in South Korea 10:00 Hannah's Children by Catherine Pakaluk: mothers of five kids or more 13:00 Having kids is contagious among friends; many have never held a baby 17:00 Emba's "The Reason Gen Z Isn't Dating" and a Wheatley Institute survey 19:00 Only thirty percent of single young adults are actively dating 21:00 Ray on meeting partners at church youth events versus dating apps 23:00 Low dating efficacy, or confidence; fear of rejection; lost dating norms 26:00 How dating apps make potential partners feel disposable; pornography 31:00 "Dating apps succeed by having people not get in relationships" 35:00 Young people giving up smartphones; "eat an apple with me" in a DC park 37:00 Part 2: how to talk about declining fertility with sensitivity 39:00 Cardus's "Home Alone" report: Canadians having fewer kids than they want 45:00 Government should get out of the road; child tax credits; parental leave 49:00 "Life is a gift"; the family precedes the state and the market 52:00 "Hatch them, match them, and dispatch them": the church and marriage 54:00 Belief, behaviour, and belonging; sociologist Ryan Burge on worship 57:00 Formation of character online; "human desires have remained the same" Links Christine Emba: https://www.cardus.ca/personnel/christine-emba Rethinking Sex: A Provocation, by Christine Emba: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622579/rethinking-sex-by-christine-emba "The Reason Gen Z Isn't Dating" by Christine Emba: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/03/opinion/gen-z-dating-clavicular.html "1,000 People Met in a Park to Eat Apples Together" by Anusha Mathur: https://www.washingtonsun.com/perspectives/1-000-people-met-in-a-park-to-eat-apples-together-what-does-it-say-about-washington-in-2026 "Home Alone" by Lyman Stone: https://www.cardus.ca/research/family/reports/home-alone Credits Christine Emba is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where her work focuses on gender and sexuality, feminism, masculinity, youth culture, and social norms. She is the author of Rethinking Sex: A Provocation (2022). Hosted by Ray Pennings and Andreae Sennyah. Ray Pennings is a co-founder and the executive vice president of Cardus. Andreae Sennyah is the director of policy and stakeholder relations at Cardus. Produced by Evan Rosa and Dayna Hillier. Technical production by Allie Crummy, artwork by Domenic Sallese, and marketing by Brendan Steven. Proverbs & Policy is part of the Comment Podcast Network: https://comment.org/podcasts Cardus is a nonpartisan think tank dedicated to clarifying and strengthening, through research and dialogue, how society's institutions can work together for the common good. To learn more about us, visit https://www.cardus.ca If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave us a review. It helps other listeners find the show. You can also sign up for Cardus Insights, a weekly newsletter by Ray Pennings for anyone looking for thoughtful, measured, and principled perspectives on faithful public life. Subscribe for free at https://www.cardus.ca/insights.

    Why Aren't Young People Dating or Having Kids? — Christine Emba
  2. 1d ago

    How Christian Social Thought Shapes Canadian Policy Debates — Brian Dijkema

    What is the link between proverbs and policy? For Brian Dijkema, the Canadian president of Cardus, it has to do with wisdom—and wisdom is something that's available to all. He argues that every human being is made in the image of God for a particular type of social life, and that we should have a rich variety of relationships. In part 2, hosts Andreae Sennyah and Ray Pennings take a deeper dive into Christian social thought: creation order, common grace, antithesis, and sphere sovereignty; the four permanent principles of the Catholic church's social doctrine; and what this means for day-to-day policy work and public life in North America. Notes 00:00 Guest Brian Dijkema; Solomon asked for wisdom when he was made king 03:00 Christian social thought seen as some esoteric private interest group 05:00 Every human being is made in the image of God and worthy of dignity 08:00 TV show Alone: almost everybody leaves because they miss their family 10:00 Cardus as "civil society maximalists," a beloved colleague's phrase 12:00 Reducing a sauce is good. Reducing a human person is really, really bad 13:00 A forest's biodiversity; churches, mosques, synagogues, chess groups 16:00 "I'm the worst smuggler possible"; contracts are honoured because of honesty 19:00 Historian Tom Holland's Dominion; a darker Nietzschean individualism 24:00 Nonpartisan Cardus with Manitoba's NDP health minister on euthanasia 26:00 Ninety organizations representing groups with disabilities on MAID 29:00 Payday lending and access to credit: usury limits or credit unions 33:00 Theologian Thomas Aquinas: prudence as the highest political virtue 34:00 Leo XIII's Rerum novarum; we're actually Christian futurists 38:00 Part 2: the hosts connect some of the dots to Christian social thought 40:00 Next Gen Fellowship; Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church 45:00 Creation order, common grace, antithesis, and sphere sovereignty 48:00 Human dignity, common good, solidarity, and subsidiarity as principles 55:00 Christian social thought as something prior to political philosophies 1:05:00 A hopeful future: a resurgence of religion among young people Links Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind, by Tom Holland: https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/tom-holland/dominion/9781408706978 "Groups Urge Ottawa to Permanently Halt MAID for Mental Illness" via The Globe and Mail: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-groups-urge-ottawa-to-permanently-halt-maid-for-mental-illness Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html Credits Brian Dijkema is the president, Canada, at Cardus. Before joining Cardus in 2011, he spent almost a decade in labour relations. He lives in Hamilton with his wife, Nicole, and their four children. Hosted by Ray Pennings and Andreae Sennyah. Ray Pennings is a co-founder and the executive vice president of Cardus. Andreae Sennyah is the director of policy and stakeholder relations at Cardus. Produced by Evan Rosa and Dayna Hillier. Technical production by Allie Crummy, artwork by Domenic Sallese, and marketing by Brendan Steven. Proverbs & Policy is part of the Comment Podcast Network: https://comment.org/podcasts Cardus is a nonpartisan think tank dedicated to clarifying and strengthening, through research and dialogue, how society's institutions can work together for the common good. To learn more about us, visit https://www.cardus.ca. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and leave us a review. It helps other listeners find the show. You can also sign up for Cardus Insights, a weekly newsletter by Ray Pennings for anyone looking for thoughtful, measured, and principled perspectives on faithful public life. Subscribe for free at https://www.cardus.ca/insights.

    How Christian Social Thought Shapes Canadian Policy Debates — Brian Dijkema

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For two thousand years, Christian social thought has shaped how societies are built, how institutions serve their people, and how we live together well. That wisdom has something essential to say about the biggest questions facing public life today—questions that politics alone was never equipped to answer. Episode by episode, hosts Ray Pennings and Andreae Sennyah bring the wisdom of Christian social thought to bear on the defining cultural and policy questions of our time, in conversation with the thinkers who are wrestling with them intensely, and the leaders building our shared future.

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