Danny Sheehan is one of the most consequential public interest attorneys of the last century. His cases include the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, the Karen Silkwood case, the Iran-Contra investigation, and decades of work at the intersection of government secrecy and the public's right to know. He is co-founder of the Romero Institute and the New Paradigm Institute, and a leading voice in the push for congressional UAP disclosure. Today, he stands at the center of what may be the most consequential question humanity has ever faced: the implications of a potential extraterrestrial or extradimensional non-human presence here on Earth. Having spent over 50 years litigating against government secrecy and winning, in this discussion, Danny connects the JFK assassination, the Vatican's role in the 1933 Italy UFO crash, the founding of the CIA, and the architecture of Brown Brothers Harriman to the UFO cover-up we're living through today, and lays out the concrete constitutional path to disclosure. Big thanks to Jamie Billings for helping make this interview happen, and to Danny and his wife for their time and generosity. The New Paradigm Institute, founded by acclaimed civil rights and Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan, is dedicated to advocating for the public release of information held by the government surrounding the issue of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), or what was commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). For more information, visit http://newparadigminstitute.org. Stream on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/14ioP0zfFczK8hKPsDUmko?si=cff351ada3944a9a Want more? Join the Frightday Society, at http://thefrightdaysociety.org As a Society Member, you'll have access to all Screamium content (Behind the Screams, It's Been a Weird Week, A Conversation With..., Toast to Toast PM with Wine Kelly, Cinema Autopsy, the Writers' Room, bonus episodes of Captain Kelly's Cryptids & Conspiracies, Byron's Serial Corner, and so much more! 00:00 Intro 00:30 Welcome and guest introduction 02:33 Reaction to WAR.gov/UFO and Pete Hegseth's framing 04:43 Danny's faith in the American people 07:06 JFK and Khrushchev's secret disarmament letters after the Cuban Missile Crisis 09:23 Why the assassination happened and its fallout 11:44 The Gulf of Tonkin lie and the collapse of trust in government 14:07 Coming to grips with UAP reality and the national security state 16:23 1968 vs. today: has Trump set disclosure back? 18:47 Why the world's religious communities may lead reform, not governments 21:05 Jesus, telepathy, and the evolution of human consciousness 23:23 Why the Vatican has withheld information, and why the Jesuit order was founded to reform the Church 25:48 Pope Pius XII and the 1933 UFO crash in Italy 28:11 The "Magenta" case and what Italy/Germany did with the craft in WWII 30:37 1945: Roswell, Aztec, White Sands, and the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 32:57 Roots of the national security state: the U.S. invasion of Russia in 1917 35:10 Brown Brothers Harriman, the Dulles brothers, and the Treaty of Versailles 37:28 George Herbert Walker, Union Banking Corp, and financing the Third Reich 39:28 Trump's $1.5 trillion nuclear modernization plan and why UFOs are watching 41:42 Who are "they"? On multiple species and the unknown galactic order 43:50 Congress's constitutional authority over classification (Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer) 46:12 A message to young people and why participation matters 48:34 How lawmakers respond to pressure, and the strategy for the 2026 midterms 53:10 Recapping the Contact in the Desert panel: Jacques Vallée, Tim Gallaudet, Eric Davis, and the question nobody would answer 57:42 What first convinced Danny this was real 59:49 Deathbed testimonies and how a trial lawyer evaluates truth 1:02:11 Danny's real concern: not fear of ET, but fear of losing ourselves to them 1:04:38 Archival fieldwork: the Army War College, Wild Bill Donovan, and the McGregor Project 1:09:24 Who to trust in the UFO community: Eric Burlison, Tim Burchett, and others 1:11:46 Hope for 2026 and beyond: decent people in Congress and a path forward 1:14:07 Closing thoughts and how to get involved You'll also be part of our interactive community dedicated to the advancement of horror, hauntings, cryptids, conspiracies, aliens, and true crime. All things frightening. Keep our mini-fridges full of blood...I mean...not blood...normal things that people drink...by going to http://shop.frightday.com Theme music by Yawns Produced by Byron McKoy Follow us in the shadows at the following places: @VISITORSshow @byronmckoy @kellyfrightday @frightday This is an Audio Wool Original. #UAP #UFO #Disclosure #DannySheehan #ContactInTheDesert #VISITORS #PentagonPapers #NationalSecurity
