The Academy Podcast

The Academy for Spiritual Formation

Welcome to The Academy Podcast, a podcast dedicated to sharing rich content for the purpose of spiritual growth. The Academy Podcast is brought to you by The Academy for Spiritual Formation, an international ministry of The Upper Room. The Academy is dedicated to creating safe space for people to connect with God, self, others, and creation for the sake of the world. To learn more about our Five-Day and Two-Year retreat offerings, visit academy.upperroom.org. We’re glad you’re here.

  1. Oct 12

    Every Culture, Every Language: Belonging, Resistance, and the Body of Christ with Rubén Ortiz

    In this episode of The Academy Podcast, host Shalom Agtarap sits down with pastor, spiritual director, and Academy advisory board member Rubén Ortiz to explore rhythm, healing, resistance, and the presence of spiritual formation in every culture and language. Rubén first encountered the Academy in 2004, in the middle of a ministry crisis, when he was “doing the job but not being the person.” He reflects on how the rhythms of The Academy, including silence, Centering Prayer, the daily office, and a community that listens, reshaped his life and ministry, even when that change came at a cost. As he often says, “Christ saved my life and The Academy saved my ministry.” Drawing from his Cuban upbringing, his contemplative father, his grandmother’s rocking chair, and the witness of Howard Thurman, Rubén describes integrity as living a whole, undivided life. That means living the questions rather than clinging to certainties. He also shares how he stays grounded during a season of fear and mass deportations: limiting the news, turning to history, and finding refuge in poetry. He calls these practices his “bag of treasures.” Together, Shalom and Rubén reflect on burnout in immigrant and Latino ministry contexts, choosing resistance over resilience, the gift of a mother tongue, and the spiritual borderlands young people inhabit today. Their conversation invites us to see The Academy as a space of radical hospitality and healing, where we can bring all that we are, be received in love, and return to the world more fully ourselves. Rev. Rubén N. Ortiz, M.Div., is the Latino Field Ministries Coordinator for the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship (CBF). He is a two-time immigrant: Cuba to Ecuador (1993) and Ecuador to USA (2000). With studies in music, communications, and theology, Rubén has served as a pastor for more than two decades as well as a Spiritual Director. He is often called upon as a consultant, advisor, and resource facilitator and is passionate about promoting the well-being of congregations and pastors. Rubén was a participant in Two-Year Academy #32 (a Spanish and English bilingual Academy) and is also part of the Academy Advisory Board. In his ministry with CBF, he works with Latino congregations and partners and provides leadership to FAMILIA, CBF’s Latino Network. Rubén and his wife, Xiomara, are “empty-nester” parents of Natalia Sofia and Daniel Andrés. Show Notes Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. If you missed our discernment session, hear directly from Academy leaders as they share insights, answer questions, and offer space for reflection and discernment. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate

    Every Culture, Every Language: Belonging, Resistance, and the Body of Christ with Rubén Ortiz
  2. Sep 7

    This Joy That I Have: Embodiment, Resistance, and the Life-Giving Way with Lisa Yebuah

    In this episode of The Academy Podcast, host Shalom Agtarap sits down with pastor and Academy #44 faculty member Lisa Yebuah to explore joy, embodiment, imagination, and what it means to become fully alive in a world that can so often pull us toward fear and despair. Drawing from her experience as an Academy faculty member and the wisdom of the Black church tradition, Lisa reflects on the practices and people who have shaped her spiritual life. She shares how silence, prayer, ancestral wisdom, music, and the rhythms of The Academy have helped her become “human sized”—more attentive to her own limits and more open to the presence and movement of God. Lisa also explores joy as more than happiness or escape. Joy can be a source of spiritual resilience, a form of resistance, and an oasis that sustains us in the midst of suffering. Alongside embodied spiritual practice and imagination, joy helps us envision a world beyond the one we have been given and cultivate lives that bend toward wholeness, liberation, and abundant life. Together, Shalom and Lisa reflect on contemplation and action, the wisdom of church mothers, becoming friends with our bodies, and the practices that sustain us when the world feels overwhelming. Their conversation offers an invitation to begin spiritual formation not by asking what more we need to do, but by imagining who God is calling us to become—and trusting that God is already at work. Reverend Lisa Yebuah currently serves as the Lead Pastor of the Southeast Raleigh Table, a United Methodist worshipping community located near downtown Raleigh. She’s a 1999 graduate of Wofford College and a 2004 graduate of Duke University Divinity School. What fuels her life in ministry is seeing people become their whole selves, and in turn, witnessing people live like and believe that the world can be collectively marked by liberation. Reverend Yebuah is deeply invested in her local community, and works alongside organizations engaged in advocacy for affordable housing, a living wage, access to mental wellness resources, and equity in public education. Most would describe Lisa as a glutton for joy, a lover of people and the enneagram, a self-professed party-starter, and a biscuit connoisseur. She also admits to having a slight obsession with “Abbott Elementary” and “The Office,” and hopes that one day 90’s R&B becomes required listening. Lisa will join Academy #44 during session seven in 2028, teaching on Spiritual Leadership in Local Faith Communities. Show Notes Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. If you missed our discernment session, hear directly from Academy leaders as they share insights, answer questions, and offer space for reflection and discernment. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate

    This Joy That I Have: Embodiment, Resistance, and the Life-Giving Way with Lisa Yebuah
  3. Aug 10

    Held Together: Embodiment, Community, and the Rhythms of Spiritual Formation with Claire McKeever-Burgett

    In this episode of The Academy Podcast, host Shalom Agtarap sits down with author, theologian, and Academy #44 faculty member Claire McKeever-Burgett to explore what it means to inhabit a spiritual life rooted in presence, connection, and the wisdom of the body. Drawing from her own journey of faith, Claire reflects on the rhythms and relationships that have shaped her spiritual formation—from encountering the Psalms as a young adult to finding companionship among the saints, family, spiritual friends, and the Academy community. She shares how prayer, parenting, grief, writing, and time in creation have taught her to recognize the sacred within the ordinary rhythms of life. Claire also explores the connection between spiritual formation and the way we show up in the world. Prayer, she suggests, cannot remain separate from our relationships, our pursuit of justice, or the ways we care for one another. Instead, spiritual practice forms us for lives of greater love, presence, and connection. Together, Shalom and Claire reflect on embodiment, retreat and return, the communities that hold us when life feels unsteady, and the freedom of releasing the need to master the spiritual life. Their conversation offers a simple invitation: take a breath, give yourself a break, and trust that before the rules, practices, and expectations, there is presence. Claire K. McKeever-Burgett is a feminist theologian, creative contemplative, author, and spiritual leader who unabashedly centers and celebrates the women of scripture—because without them, we’d be hard-pressed to have any of it in the first place. Her debut book, Blessed Are the Women: Naming and Reclaiming Women’s Stories from the Gospels, launched to a sold-out crowd at Parnassus Books, Nashville’s renowned woman-owned independent bookstore. Her sophomore book, In the Beginning Were the Women: Matriarchs, Mystics, Wise Women, and Warriors in the Hebrew Bible, released on October 21, 2025 and is available now. Claire will join Academy #44 in session five next year, teaching on Spirituality & Embodiment. Show Notes Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. If you missed our discernment session, hear directly from Academy leaders as they share insights, answer questions, and offer space for reflection and discernment. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate

    Held Together: Embodiment, Community, and the Rhythms of Spiritual Formation with Claire McKeever-Burgett
  4. Jun 8

    Reflections on the Civil Rights Pilgrimage 2026 — Bonus Episode

    In this episode of The Academy Podcast, host Shalom Agtarap sits down with leaders from The Academy for Spiritual Formation Civil Rights Pilgrimage to reflect on the sacred work of remembrance, community, and spiritual transformation. Drawing from experiences across Alabama at sites central to the Civil Rights Movement, Safiyah Fosua, Kwasi Kena, Diana Cason, and Johnny Sears share how pilgrimage moves history from the head to the heart. Together, they reflect on resilience, lament, beloved community, storytelling, and the ongoing call to “keep showing up” for justice and healing. The conversation explores the power of proximity to sacred spaces, the importance of communal witness, and the ways faith communities can practice remembrance through prayer, storytelling, worship, journaling, and courageous presence. As voting rights and the legacy of the Voting Rights Act face renewed challenges in this time, this conversation invites listeners into the sacred work of remembering — listening to the stories of the Civil Rights Movement, honoring the courage of those who kept showing up, and asking how faith calls us toward justice, healing, and beloved community today. Together, the group reflects on pilgrimage not as tourism, but as a spiritual practice — one that invites participants to listen deeply, bear witness to painful histories, and discern how God may be calling them into deeper engagement with justice, reconciliation, and beloved community. Show Notes Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate

    Reflections on the Civil Rights Pilgrimage 2026 — Bonus Episode
  5. May 11

    Hope with Our Backs Against the Wall: Faith, Solidarity, and the Work of Love with Luther Smith

    In this episode of The Academy Podcast, host Shalom Agtarap sits down with scholar, teacher, and longtime Academy faculty member Luther Smith to explore how spiritual formation shapes the way we engage the world. Drawing deeply from the wisdom of Howard Thurman and the witness of those who have lived with their “backs against the wall,” Luther reflects on the inseparable connection between personal spiritual practice and social transformation. He shares formative stories from his childhood during the civil rights era, the influence of family and faith community, and the ways prophetic remembering helps sustain hope in difficult times. Luther also speaks about the enduring gift of The Academy for Spiritual Formation as a place where questions are welcomed, companions are formed, and faithful disciples learn not only what to believe—but how to live. Together, Shalom and Luther reflect on five essential spiritual practices—listening deeply, prophetic remembering, transforming conflict, crossing identity boundaries, and celebration—and how these practices nurture beloved community even amid suffering and injustice. Show Notes Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. Interested In Knowing More Before Applying? If you are interested in the Two-Year Academy but have questions or want to learn more about the experience, join members of the Academy #44 Leadership Team on Tuesday, May 19, at 3:00 PM (CDT) for a free, one-hour session via Zoom to help discern whether the next Two-Year Academy is for you.  Register here for If Not Now, When? Discerning Your Calling to The Academy for Spiritual Formation. The session is free, but you must register to attend. We look forward to hearing your questions and accompanying you as you prayerfully consider attending the Two-Year Academy. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate

    Hope with Our Backs Against the Wall: Faith, Solidarity, and the Work of Love with Luther Smith
  6. Apr 13

    Cultivating Compassion in a Polarized World with Frank Rogers

    In this conversation, host Shalom Agtarap is joined by Frank Rogers, spiritual director, teacher, author, and co-director of the Center for Engaged Compassion. Drawing from decades of work in spiritual formation and compassion studies, Frank reflects on the sacred rhythms that sustain us, the restorative power of contemplative practice, and the call to embody compassion in a fractured world. Together, they explore what it means to come back home to ourselves in the midst of inner chaos, how self-compassion can become a path toward healing and spiritual resilience, and why compassion remains essential in times marked by polarization, fear, and disconnection. Frank also shares how his own life journey shaped his vocation, offering wisdom on trusting the deep truth within and tending our inner lives with care rather than judgment. With gentleness, honesty, and hope, Frank reminds us that the compassion we seek is not far away, but already alive within us — and that the spiritual life invites us to remember, trust, and live from that truth. Dr. Frank Rogers Jr. is the Muriel Bernice Roberts Professor of Spiritual Formation and Narrative Pedagogy and the codirector of the Center for Engaged Compassion at the Claremont School of Theology. His research and teaching focus is on spiritual formation that is contemplative, creative, and socially liberative. A trained spiritual director and experienced retreat leader, Rogers has written on the interconnections between spirituality, social engagement, and compassion. Frank lives in southern California with his wife, Dr. Alane Daugherty, with whom he shares three young adult sons, Justin, Michael, and Sammy. With his wife, he loves to run, camp, snorkel, and follow baseball. He is also the author of Compassion in Practice: The Way of Jesus, Revised Edition, out May 2026 from Upper Room Books. Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources, visit: academy.upperroom.org/resources The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate Show Notes:Join UsSupport Our Work

    Cultivating Compassion in a Polarized World with Frank Rogers
  7. Mar 9

    The Contemplative Life as the Path to Justice and Peace with Elaine Heath

    In this conversation, host Shalom Agtarap is joined by Elaine Heath, theologian, spiritual director, and longtime faculty member of The Academy for Spiritual Formation. Drawing from her journey through contemplative spirituality, community life, and regenerative ministry, Elaine invites us into a rich conversation about grounding ourselves in God’s presence during times of chaos and change. Together, they explore the healing wisdom of the natural world, the power of daily prayer rhythms, and how contemplative practices form people for discernment, justice, and renewal. Elaine shares stories from her life, her work in new monastic community, and the spiritual voices that have shaped her faith, reminding us that nothing in our lives is wasted — even our pain can become sacred compost for compassion and wisdom. Elaine Heath’s vocational journey includes having served as Dean of the Divinity School at Duke University and the McCreless Professor of Evangelism at Perkins School of Theology. She is a pioneer in new forms of theological education. In that capacity, Heath is co-founder and former President of Neighborhood Seminary. The author of thirteen books, Heath is an ordained elder in the United Methodist Church and served in pastoral ministry prior to her academic ministry.  She lives with her husband at Spring Forest, an intentional Christian Community and farm in rural North Carolina, where she serves as Abbess. Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources visit: academy.upperroom.org/resources The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at Academy.UpperRoom.org/donate Show Notes:Join UsSupport Our Work

    The Contemplative Life as the Path to Justice and Peace with Elaine Heath
  8. 12/09/2025

    Formed by Scripture, Formed for Community with Shively Smith

    In this conversation, host Shalom Agtarap is joined by Dr. Shively Smith, Associate Professor of New Testament at Boston University School of Theology and faculty member for Academy #43. Drawing from her deep scholarship and lived experience, Dr. Smith invites us into a conversation about New Testament spirituality—how Scripture forms both head and heart, and how faith takes shape in community. Together, they explore what it means to “go to the village,” to cultivate small acts of kindness and consistency as a counter to despair, and to live with courage and curiosity in our spiritual questions. Dr. Smith reminds us that the life of faith is not about certainty but about seeking, listening, and being accompanied well along the way. Dr. Shively T. J. Smith is Associate Professor of New Testament at Boston University School of Theology and a faculty member of the upcoming Academy 43. A noted Howard Thurman scholar and author of Strangers to Family and Interpreting 2 Peter through African American Women's Moral Writings, she is a sought-after speaker who has appeared on the History Channel, C-SPAN, and at the National Museum of African American History and Culture. She also serves as resident scholar at Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, D.C. Show Notes: Episode tracks: “Far Side of the Sea,” “Versailles,” and “Fearless” by Amy Stroup, used with permission. Audio editing and production by Tim Savage. A special thanks to the staff of The Upper Room, the Academy team, and everyone who helps bring this podcast to life. For more information and resources visit: academy.upperroom.org/resources Join Us The next Two-Year Academy begins October 26, 2026. Learn more about Two-Year Academy #44 and apply here. Support Our Work If the Academy Podcast or any of the ministries of The Academy for Spiritual Formation have benefited your life and spirituality, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation to show your support. You can learn more about how your gifts make a difference at https://academy.upperroom.org/donate/

    Formed by Scripture, Formed for Community with Shively Smith

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Welcome to The Academy Podcast, a podcast dedicated to sharing rich content for the purpose of spiritual growth. The Academy Podcast is brought to you by The Academy for Spiritual Formation, an international ministry of The Upper Room. The Academy is dedicated to creating safe space for people to connect with God, self, others, and creation for the sake of the world. To learn more about our Five-Day and Two-Year retreat offerings, visit academy.upperroom.org. We’re glad you’re here.

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