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We share engaging conversations about acute care physical therapy so you can connect to your profession.
Our hosts are Dr. Leo Arguelles and Dr. Ashley Poole. Dr. Arguelles is a physical therapist and educator at University of Illinois Chicago and Dr. Poole is a physical therapist and educator at Duke University. They have come together across time zones to build a space for conversation and support for other acute care therapists.
Connect with us and our hosts!
Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS)
Twitter @LeoArguellesPT
Ashley Poole
Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT
APTA Acute Care
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Facebook: APTA Acute Care
Instagram @AcademyAcutePT
APTA Acute Care Resources
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APTA Lab Values Document (https://www.aptaacutecare.org/store/viewproduct.aspx?id=10758036)
APTA Acute Care https://www.aptaacutecare.org/
Journal Access: https://journals.lww.com/jacpt/pages/default.aspx
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All About 2025 Academy Elections: What You Should Know
Show Notes
Guests:
Leslie Ayers PT & Brigid Griffin PT, DPT
APTA Acute Care Nominating Committee Members
Guest Quotes:
15:46 Leslie “ I would say I've really enjoyed the nominating committee so far… And it wasn't necessarily even something that I was thinking about, but I'm so happy that I said yes and took that leap. You get to see the inner workings of the academy without kind of from the outside, looking in and get an idea of what everybody's doing. Without necessarily having to Jump in full fledged.”
17:30 Brigid “That was actually definitely my motivation for running for the position. So Leo pinged me for it. And the first time I was like, no, I don't really know a lot of people in the Academy. Like most of my like networking and like colleagues and stuff has been in the pediatrics Academy because I'm pediatric acute care. But I really wanted to get involved in the acute care Academy. So after the second email, I was like, you know, you're right,this is my end to like network with people and meet people and start volunteering in a role.”
Links:
2025 APTA Acute Care Nominations & Elections
June 26th, Acute Care Town Hall: House of Delegates
Nominate Yourself
Nominate a Fellow APTA Acute Care Member
Connect with our hosts and the podcast!
Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS)
largue2@uic.edu
Twitter @LeoArguellesPT
Ashley Poole
Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT
Interested in being a future guest?
APTA Acute Care:
Website
Awards
Journal Access
Twitter @AcuteCareAPTA
Facebook APTA Acute Care
Instagram @AcademyAcutePT
YouTube APTA Acute Care Podcast
Bridge the Gap
APTA Acute Care Resources
APTA Adult Vital Signs
APTA Lab Values Document
Webinar Recordings
2023 Long Covid Webinar Series -
Live from Bridge the Gap 2024
Join us for a recap of Bridge the Gap 2024
"You know you're in acute care when"
Guest & Subscriber Dan: "That nothing surprises you anymore in acute care. It is a rare day that I walk away from work shocked of something. Every once in a while it happens, but generally speaking, nothing surprises me anymore. We've got good poker faces."
Links:
2025 APTA Acute Care Nominations & Elections
Position Descriptions
Connect with our hosts and the podcast!
Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS)
largue2@uic.edu
Twitter @LeoArguellesPT
Ashley Poole
Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT
Interested in being a future guest?
APTA Acute Care:
Website
Awards
Journal Access
Twitter @AcuteCareAPTA
Facebook APTA Acute Care
Instagram @AcademyAcutePT
YouTube APTA Acute Care Podcast
Bridge the Gap
APTA Acute Care Resources
APTA Adult Vital Signs
APTA Lab Values Document
Webinar Recordings
2023 Long Covid Webinar Series -
Making An Impact: Christiane Perme Shares Her ICU Mission Trip To Ukraine
Show Notes
Today’s Guests:
Christiane Perme, PT, CCS, FCCM
chrisperme@gmail.com
www.permeseminars.com
Twitter/X: @icuperme
IG: permeicuseminars
LinkedIn: Christiane Perme
Bio: Christiane Perme, PT CCS FCCM is the owner of Perme ICU Rehab Seminars and a Rehab Education
Specialist at Houston Methodist Hospital, where she practiced as a physical therapist exclusively in ICU
for more than 30 years. She is a Fellow of the American College of Critical Care Medicine, the first physical
therapist in the world to receive such recognition, and a Board Certified Cardiovascular and Pulmonary
Clinical Specialist. Mrs. Perme has extensive experience in early mobility in ICU, with special interest in
patients on mechanical ventilation. She has published 23 articles and authored 10 book chapters. Mrs.
Perme is a world-renowned speaker and has presented hundreds of courses and lectures in different
countries, including the United States, Peru, Ukraine, Brazil, United Arab Emirates, Chile, Colombia, Puerto
Rico, Germany, Denmark, Russia, Nigeria, Netherlands, Canada, and Spain.
Links:
Link for the video from the training mission in Ukraine on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ETTLxGNCw7A?si=FScwwD7kHlSAAIO-
2025 Call for Nominations
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aptaacutecare.org/resource/resmgr/csm/csm_2024/cycle_2.pdf
Guest Quotes:
9:02 “There was like in high school, one of those profession fairs where the counselors come to talk about different professions and they were talking about the doctor, the nurse, the lawyer. And then all of a sudden I even remember where I was sitting in this auditorium, when they said, and there is a professional physical therapy, this profession helps patients recover and they set this example. For example, if you have a patient that is in a car accident or if they have a stroke, the physical therapist helped them walk again. At that moment, I felt like That is exactly what I want to do. And I honestly don't even remember what came after that because I kept thinking about, Oh my God, there's somebody that helps people walk again.”
26:25 “The part that was most impactful to me is they did a phenomenal job in the bomb shelter, all of the walls in the hallway. Once you get down there, there are pictures of patients that were injured during the war and have pictures like one family that the whole family had amputations and the physician who is, she's the director of all of the ICUs, you could see her explaining about that family and what they went through and you could see in her voice, how hard it was for her to talk about that. She went through all of the pictures on the wall and really educated us about what was happening to that country and how civilians, how people just like us were being affected. So that was a very powerful moment.”
30:20 “I'm going to share with you because this was one of the unique moments:
For all of us, I was teaching one of my classes and the director of the ICU came in with the the director of all of the ICUs with the director of the ICU, one of the ICUs, and then translator came to me and said, Chris, the doctor is asking if you can interrupt your class for a moment. I said, sure. She needs to address all of the doctors.
And she went there, that was, we have been there for about four days at this point. She went there and she told the physicians. I want you to please listen to the Americans. -
Bridge the Gap Conference: Are You Missing Out?
Show Notes
Today’s Guests:
Melissa Hake PT, DScPT
hake.melissa@mayo.edu
William Healey PT,EdD, GCS
b-healey@northwestern.edu
Bridge the Gap Conference Co-Chairs
Links:
https://www.aptaacutecare.org/page/bridgethegap
Attendee Pricing: APTA Acute Care Members $225, Non-Members $325, Students/Residents/Fellows $75
May 7th Webinar: The Path Isn’t Clear: The Complex Ethics of Palliative Care PT in the Hospital
https://www.aptaacutecare.org/events/EventDetails.aspx?id=1849536&group=
2025 Call for Nominations
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aptaacutecare.org/resource/resmgr/csm/csm_2024/cycle_2.pdf
Guest Quotes:
What's the origin story of the Bridge the Gap conference?
1:44 Melissa “There were gaps between kind of disseminating and implementing information from the classroom to the clinic, and then also from research published evidence into real world settings with all the barriers and constraints and things that go on within the health care system. And so thinking of those gaps we really sought to have a conference where people could come together around those topics and try to improve and, and bridge those gaps.”
On BTG Speakers
13:33 Melissa: “…we're really, really intentional about trying to get all kinds of different perspectives from different stakeholders. So we had rural, we have large hospital, we have administrators, we have clinicians we have academics who are trying to like take complex patients and how do we weave that into a curriculum? …we did our best to get a comprehensive view of what it means to take evidence and innovative ways and move it into practical application.”
Rapid Responses:
What's your favorite book that you'd recommend?
Bill: “The All Light We Cannot See” by Anthony Doerr
Melissa: “Lord of the Rings”
You know you work in acute care when:
Melissa: “You go to plan Z”
Bill: You’re tired from walking all over the floors. I’m so tired at the end of the day.”
Connect with our hosts and the podcast!
Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS)
largue2@uic.edu
Twitter @LeoArguellesPT
Ashley Poole
Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT
Interested in being a future guest?
APTA Acute Care:
Website
Awards
Journal Access
Twitter @AcuteCareAPTA
Facebook APTA Acute Care
Instagram @AcademyAcutePT
YouTube APTA Acute Care Podcast
Bridge the Gap
APTA Acute Care Resources
APTA Adult Vital Signs
APTA Lab Values Document
a href="https://www.aptaacutecare. -
Reducing Co-Treating In Acute Care: Why It’s A Necessary Change
Show Notes
Today’s Guests:
Haley Bento PT, DPT, Assistant Professor (clinical), Department of Physical Therapy and Athletic Training, University of Utah
Haley.bento@utah.edu
IG/“The Gram”: @utahcardioPTresidency ; @utahacutePTresident; @itshaleyDPT
Bryan Douglas Lohse, PT, DPT, Board-Certified Cardiovascular and Pulmonary Clinical Specialist, Therapy Services Mechanical Circulatory Support Advanced Practice Specialist
bryan.lohse@utah.edu
Paul Arnold, MOT, OTR/L
paul.arnold@hsc.utah.edu
Links:
Bento, Haley; Fisk, Elizabeth; Johnson, Emma; Goudelock, Bruce; Hunter, Maxwell; Hoekstra,
Deborah; Noren, Christopher; Hatton, Nathan; Magel, John. Inspiratory Muscle Training While
Hospitalized With Acute COVID-19 Respiratory Failure: A Randomized Controlled Trial. Journal of
Acute Care Physical Therapy ():10.1097/JAT.0000000000000217, May 01, 2023. | DOI:
10.1097/JAT.0000000000000217
Bento, Haley A. DPT1; Mayer, Kirby P. DPT, PhD2 Active Mobilization for Patients Requiring
Continuous Renal Replacement Therapy: Let Us Get Moving, Critical Care Medicine: January 2021 -
Volume 49 - Issue 1 - p e117-e118 doi: 10.1097/CCM.0000000000004670
Bento, H. A., Dummer, D., Lohse, B. D., Noren, C., & Tonna, J. E. (2020). Walking While Dialyzing: A
Retrospective Observation of Early Mobility and Ambulation for Patients on Continuous Renal
Replacement Therapy. Critical Care Explorations, 2(6). https://doi.org/10.1097/cce.0000000000000131
Tonna, J. E., Johnson, J., Presson, A., Zhang, C., Noren, C., Lohse, B., Bento, H., Barton, R., Nirula,
R., Mone, M., Marcus, R. (2019). Short-Term Clinical and Quality Outcomes Have Inconsistent
Changes From a Quality Improvement Initiative to Increase Access to Physical Therapy in the
Cardiovascular and Surgical ICU. Critical Care Explorations, 1(10).
https://doi.org/10.1097/cce.0000000000000055
Johnson, J. K., Lohse, B., Bento, H. A., Noren, C. S., Marcus, R. L., & Tonna, J. E. (2019). Improving
Outcomes for Critically Ill Cardiovascular Patients Through Increased Physical Therapy Staffing.
Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, 100(2), 270–277.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.apmr.2018.07.437
Improving Outcomes for Critically Ill Cardiovascular Patients Through Increased Physical Therapy Staffing - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30172645/
Walking While Dialyzing: A Retrospective Observation of Early Mobility and Ambulation for Patients on Continuous Renal Replacement Therapy - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32695996/
Too Many Patients, Not Enough Time: Prioritization to Optimize Outcomes CSM handouts -https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.aptaacutecare.org/resource/resmgr/csm/csm_2019/handouts/updated-bento-haley-too-many.pdf
Health System Council Webinar - Collaboration Without Co-Treatment: Creating Discipline-Specific Acute Care Therapy Teams - https://learningcenter.apta.org/products/health-system-council-webinar-collaboration-without-co-treatment-creating-discipline-specific-acute-care-therapy-teams
Guest Quotes:
4:50 Haley “We often co treat with OT and we maybe don't have a clear role of if that's beneficial for our professions and our patients.”
8:01 Paul “But I think as occupational therapists, we maybe haven't been doing a very good job marketing ourselves and what we can do. And by always walking through the door together, PT and OT, I think it kind of muddies our practices, and it reduces our ability to be more specific and more potent with our treatment sessions.”
14:36 Bryan “we all tell patients frequent, shorter bouts of activity and, and if. If I know that Paul is going to go focus on this, on whatever he's doing with the patient, I'm going to titrate it so that maybe the patient just need... -
Physical Function As A Biomarker For Reduced Readmissions
Show Notes
Today’s Guests:
Jason Falvey PT, DPT, PhD
jfalvey@som.umaryland.edu
https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/profiles/falvey-jason/
Twitter: @JayRayFalvey
Please look for Jason’s full speech in a future 2024 Journal of Acute Care Physical Therapy issue.
Guest Quotes:
2:44 “physical function is a really, really important predictor of how successfully people are going to transition to the next level of care. And when I say successful discharge, I don't just mean readmissions…if you ask patients what they care about, that's not necessarily what they're going to say is they're not going to say, I don't want to visit the hospital in the next 30 days. And then after that, I don't care. They really care about being at home, being able to age in place successfully, being able to functionally improve. So PTs have a lot to do with, you know, helping patients reach their goals and things that are maybe not exactly the same as the things your hospital system says are important.”
6:54 “Acute care PTs never know what happens to that person when they leave. They can't close the loop on equipment or modifications or caregiver training that they recommend. And you're hoping that everything goes smoothly with a care, you know, transition where that person gets the home care that you recommended or goes to outpatient that you recommended. But you don't have You know value from your organization to say we're going to consider it productive time for you to call and follow up …”
15:26 “I think one of the issues I have with productivity systems that are built on touching people is we really have created a volume based model. And do you really feel like you're able to address every person's need comprehensively? When, you have, you know, more credit for initial evaluations or new patients or metrics to see every patient within 24, 48 hours, right, it's, if we started highlighting the value of these other things, maybe there's advocacy and support and budgets at the hospital for more therapists or people to take on different roles.”
Rapid Responses:
If you had to co treat with a cartoon character on a home health visit, which cartoon character would you co treat with?
“Oh, the genie from Aladdin for sure.”
You know you work in Post-acute care when:
You are working on a Sunday to get your last visit slash minute slash whatever you need to hit your metrics for the week are.
Connect with our hosts and the podcast!
Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS)
largue2@uic.edu
Twitter @LeoArguellesPT
Ashley Poole
Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT
Interested in being a future guest?
APTA Acute Care:
Website
Awards
Journal Access
Twitter @AcuteCareAPTA
Facebook APTA Acute Care
Instagram @AcademyAcutePT
YouTube APTA Acute Care Podcast
Bridge the Gap
APTA Acute Care Resources
APTA Adult Vital Signs
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Good, but could be better
It’s nice to see the acute care academy having a presence on the Apple podcast app. The episodes are interesting and entertaining, with a variety of guests that discuss their background and what they do in acute care. I wish they would use the podcast as a platform to educate clinicians on the most up-to-date evidence in the field or case studies that walk you through a clinician’s approach and thought process for an evaluation. An idea might be to present case studies on determining discharge disposition and how the clinician came to that conclusion. It could be helpful to have a series on mobilizing patients on pressor support or how to safely mobilize patients on a ventilator. I see this as an opportunity for the academy to really educate acute care clinicians and improve their practice.