Breaking Precedent

Leah Solivan

Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.

  1. Breaking and Enterprising: Austin Allison on Rebuilding Ownership from the Ground Up

    4D AGO

    Breaking and Enterprising: Austin Allison on Rebuilding Ownership from the Ground Up

    What happens when the systems that define ownership are designed to exclude most people from participating? Austin Allison, founder of Pacaso and former co-founder of Dotloop, has spent his career inside one of the most entrenched and resistant industries: real estate. From growing up in a household where ownership was aspirational but constrained, to building and exiting a $100M+ proptech company, his perspective is shaped by both lived experience and system-level insight. This episode explores the structural barriers that make real estate slow to change, from incentive misalignment to regulatory friction and cultural inertia. It also examines what it actually takes to shift an industry where participants are independent, resistant to control, and deeply tied to legacy processes. At the center is a deeper tension: ownership as both a wealth-building engine and a gated system. Austin unpacks how Pacaso emerged from this tension, aiming to expand access without eroding value. The discussion moves beyond entrepreneurship into power, incentives, and the hidden mechanics that determine who gets to participate in wealth creation. References & Resources • Books: Switch by Chip and Dan Heath • Companies: Dotloop, Pacaso, Zillow, Keller Williams • Concepts: Network effects, change management, ownership as wealth creation, independent contractor incentives • Platforms: DocuSign Show Notes  00:00 Introduction to breaking precedent 03:16 Ohio Roots and First Deal 05:56 Ownership and Second Home Epiphany 08:45 Ambition and Vulnerability 12:50 Selling Homes at 18 Lessons 16:34 Dotloop Breakthrough and Passion 19:34 Changing Real Estate Adoption 29:28 Zillow Exit and Picasso Calling 32:40 Retirement Reality Check 33:40 Eleven Month Problem Study 35:01 Beating Timeshare Stigma 36:35 Venn Diagram Conviction 41:10 Second Home Magic 43:32 Fixing Underuse And Hassle 45:11 NetJets For Houses 46:16 Housing Affordability Impact 49:43 Reframing The Ownership Dream 54:26 Policy Fixes For Mobility 58:22 Ownership And ROE Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    1h 3m
  2. Breaking the Script: Tony Award-winning Rachel Sussman on Turning Art into Action

    MAR 19

    Breaking the Script: Tony Award-winning Rachel Sussman on Turning Art into Action

    What does it take to build something meaningful when the system is designed for most efforts to fail? Rachel Sussman is a Broadway producer known for bringing socially driven, culturally relevant work to the stage, including the Tony Award winning musical Suffs and the play Liberation. Raised in a family immersed in the arts, she developed an early fascination with storytelling, eventually shifting from performance to producing after discovering the power of shaping creative work behind the scenes. This conversation explores producing as a systems discipline. Rachel breaks down Broadway as a high-risk startup model where only about 10 percent of shows recoup their investment. She shares how meaningful art is built at the intersection of storytelling, capital, and cultural timing, and why hope is not passive optimism but a strategic choice that requires action. The episode reveals how great producers do more than create shows. They design systems that influence how audiences think, feel, and engage with the world. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent! 02:11 Books That Shaped Her 03:53 Family Theater Roots 07:05 Competitive Dance Years 08:37 From Performer to Dramaturg 11:05 NYU and Finding Producing 13:03 Producer as Show CEO 16:08 Broadway Risk and Recoup 17:47 Suffs Origin Story 22:16 History That Haunts 24:25 Great American Bitch 26:56 Truth Over Whitewash 28:00 Ida B Wells Spotlight 29:22 Breadcrumbs For Research 31:18 Designing For Action 33:16 Art Shapes Politics 35:38 Clinton And Malala 37:54 Liberation On Broadway 40:29 Motherhood And Rights 43:01 Hope Requires Action 43:55 Broadway Money Pressures 49:50 Audience As Participants 51:48 Stories Still Missing 52:50 Next Gen Engagement 55:30 Beyond Female Labels 56:44 Closing Reflections

    58 min
  3. Breaking Formation: Ryan Nece on Reinventing Success On and Off the Field

    MAR 5

    Breaking Formation: Ryan Nece on Reinventing Success On and Off the Field

    What happens when the identity that defined your life suddenly ends? Ryan Nece grew up surrounded by greatness. As the son of NFL Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott, competition, discipline, and excellence were part of everyday life. But living in the shadow of one of football’s greatest players came with its own pressures. In this episode, Ryan shares how those early experiences shaped his perspective on leadership, resilience, and personal responsibility. After building his own career in the NFL, Nece faced a challenge that many athletes struggle with: redefining identity after the game ends. Drawing on lessons from his father, his upbringing, and a life-altering car accident at seventeen, Ryan developed the mindset he now calls the “Next Play.” Today he brings that philosophy into the world of entrepreneurship, venture capital, and mentoring athletes transitioning into life after sports.  Show Notes 00:00 Introduction 03:12 Growing Up Ronnie Lott’s Son 05:31 Embracing the Legacy 08:27 Betting on Yourself Early 09:24 Wisdom From Strong Women 12:12 Kickball Leadership Lesson 16:54 Serious Teen to Team Leader 17:52 UCLA Setbacks and Breakthrough 20:39 Car Crash Perspective Shift 23:10 Calling Dad for Football Advice 24:58 Next Play Mindset 26:18 Processing Between Whistles 27:15 Injuries And Mental Rehab 29:59 Life After Football 32:15 Building A Startup 35:23 Founding Next Play 38:03 Venture Reality Check 42:00 Spotting Great Founders 47:26 Next Play U Program 49:46 Legacy Plus Sign 51:12 Next Decade Vision 53:16 Final Takeaways

    54 min
  4. Breaking News: Soledad O’Brien on Rewriting Who Gets to Tell the Story

    FEB 19

    Breaking News: Soledad O’Brien on Rewriting Who Gets to Tell the Story

    How do you change the narrative when the system was never designed to include you? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Soledad O'Brien joins the show to discuss her illustrious career in journalism, covering critical events from wars to hurricanes, and sharing the humorous contrast between her on-screen cooking segments and her real-life kitchen skills. O'Brien delves into her upbringing as the daughter of an interracial couple in a time when such marriages were illegal, shaping her perspective on education and resilience. Her journey from a production assistant to starting the Starfish Media Group highlights her commitment to centering authentic stories and challenging traditional narratives in media. The conversation covers the impact of storytelling in crises like Hurricane Katrina, the shifts needed in journalistic practices, and the importance of representation in media. Soledad O’Brien is an award-winning journalist, producer, and media entrepreneur known for centering truth, context, and underreported voices in American storytelling. A former CNN anchor and correspondent, she led groundbreaking documentary series including Black in America, Latino in America, and In America, reshaping how media covers race, policy, and power. Listeners can learn more about Soledad O’Brien at SoledadProductions and on Instagram @soledadobrien and LinkedIn @Soledadproduction Resources: Matter of Fact with Soledad O’Brien Show Notes:  00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent + Introducing Soledad O’Brien 01:38 Icebreaker: Myth and Mom Life 03:17 Growing Up in the 60s 06:17 Early Storytelling Instincts 07:36 Dual Identity as a Reporting Superpower 11:10 Outworking Everyone: First Jobs, Low Pay, and Learning Fast 14:37 2005 (Katrina) and Re-Centering Crisis Coverage 18:09 Why People Don’t Trust the News Anymore (Opinion, Clicks, AI) 21:31 CNN ‘Black in America’ Clash 24:43 How to Push Back on Leadership Without Losing the War 25:58 Finding Your Voice: Standing Firm as You Rise 27:07 Handling Disrespect on Assignment: ‘Get Out There and Kill It’ 30:10 Starting Starfish Media: Breaking the Gatekeeping of Stories 33:21 Reinvention, Motherhood, and Building a Life You Want 36:02 Work, Guilt, and Raising Awesome Teens (and Twentysomethings) 39:38 Owning Your Schedule: From CNN Chaos to Horseback Riding & Ballroom 41:31 Why Conflict-Driven News Wins: Cheap Panels, No Context 44:13 A Better Future for News: Streamers, Deep Dives, and Expertise Over Opinion 46:58 Docs as Policy Storytelling: Stand Your Ground, Roe, and Creative Structure 48:59 Representation Matters: The Legacy She Hopes to Leave + Final Wrapd --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @leah_solivan X: @labunleashed

    51 min
  5. Broken System: Halle Tecco on What it Takes to Build Massively Better Healthcare

    FEB 5

    Broken System: Halle Tecco on What it Takes to Build Massively Better Healthcare

    What would it take to make healthcare massively better? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Halle Tecco, founder of Rock Health, to unpack why the U.S. healthcare system remains so hard to change—and what it will actually take to fix it. Drawing from her upbringing in the Midwest, decades of experience across healthcare, investing, public health, and education, and her new book Massively Better Healthcare, Halle explains how incentives, power dynamics, and regulatory capture shape outcomes far more than technology alone. From Medicaid disparities and data misuse to venture capital timelines and the myth of “innovation solves everything,” she challenges founders and leaders to see healthcare as a system—not just a product opportunity. Together, Leah and Halle explore why healthcare resists scale, how evidence differs from proof of impact, and why founders must often become advocates—not just builders. Halle shares lessons from Rock Health, insights from teaching at Columbia and Harvard, and hard truths about incumbents, misaligned incentives, and what meaningful progress actually looks like. Halle Tecco is a healthcare investor, educator, and author focused on improving outcomes, access, and equity across the healthcare system. She is the founder of Rock Health, an early-stage venture firm supporting digital health startups, and the author of Massively Better Healthcare: The Innovator’s Guide to Tackling Healthcare’s Biggest Challenges. Her work spans investing, public health, teaching, and policy advocacy, with a mission to make healthcare meaningfully better for more people. Massively Better Healthcare (Book): https://www.halletecco.com/bookRock Health: https://rockhealth.comCost Plus Drugs (Mark Cuban): https://costplusdrugs.comEpic Systems (EHR): https://www.epic.comCleveland Clinic: https://my.clevelandclinic.orgNational Academy of Medicine (Social Determinants of Health context): https://nam.eduCenters for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS): https://www.cms.govMenlo Ventures – AI in Healthcare Report: https://menlovc.com/perspective/ai-in-healthcare/ Shownotes00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent02:10 Icebreaker: A Personal Moment That Changed Halle’s View on Healthcare06:30 Growing Up in the Midwest and Early Healthcare Experiences10:45 Fairness, Access, and Social Determinants of Health15:20 Questioning Systems from the Inside and Outside19:40 Founding Rock Health and Early Digital Health Investing24:10 Why Healthcare Resists Scale28:30 Data, AI, and the Future of Healthcare33:10 Incentives, Power, and Misalignment37:20 Writing Massively Better Healthcare41:00 What Needs to Change and What Innovators Can Do Next44:30 Final Thoughts Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    45 min
  6. Breaking the Bias: Samara Hernandez of C******a Ventures on Capital, Culture, and the Future of Funding

    JAN 22

    Breaking the Bias: Samara Hernandez of C******a Ventures on Capital, Culture, and the Future of Funding

    What happens when difference becomes a competitive advantage? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Samara Hernandez, founder of C******a Ventures, to explore how identity, constraint, and culture can shape leadership in venture capital. From growing up in Mexico to building a venture fund in the United States, Samara reflects on how limited resources, discipline, and an early love of math forged resilience and clarity—and how being underestimated became a source of strength. Tracing her path from engineering at the University of Michigan to finance at Goldman Sachs, and ultimately to launching her own fund, Samara shares how she learned to turn difference into a competitive edge. Now a venture capitalist and engineer backing bold founders, she brings a philosophy of doing more with less—working to close access gaps, expand opportunity, and redefine leadership in an industry built on pattern-matching. Samara Hernandez is a venture capitalist and engineer focused on backing bold founders building the future. Born in Mexico and raised in Chicago, her career spans engineering, finance, and early-stage investing, shaped by a philosophy of doing more with less. Through C******a Ventures, she works to close capital gaps and expand opportunity for underrepresented founders across the innovation economy. Learn more at chingonaventures.com, and follow Samara on Instagram @chingonaventures and LinkedIn. Resources National Venture Capital Association (NVCA) Venture Forward SAFE (Simple Agreement for Future Equity) Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent!02:03 Icebreaker: Turning Differences into Superpowers 03:43 Samara's Childhood and Education 06:59 From Mexico to Chicago: A Family's Journey 07:21 The Significance of Qana Ventures 08:32 Celebrating Hispanic Heritage 09:59 The Power of Community and Upbringing 11:48 Discovering a Passion for Math 13:30 Navigating Education as an Immigrant 17:39 Choosing Engineering and University Life 24:13 From Engineering to Wall Street 26:08 Learning and Growing at Goldman Sachs 30:39 The Intensity of Sales and Moving On 31:12 Mentorship and Business School Journey 32:18 Discovering Venture Capital by Accident 34:13 First Steps in Venture Capital 35:37 Building a Venture Firm from Scratch 36:48 Challenges and Opportunities in Venture Capital 40:31 Scaling C******a Ventures 44:44 The Power of Representation and Impact 51:07 Investing in the New Majority 57:01 Redefining Success in Venture Capital 01:03:16 Final Thoughts and Advice for Founders --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    1h 6m
  7. Breaking the Silence: Derrick “D-Nice” Jones on Music, Movement, and the Legacy of Club Quarantine

    JAN 8

    Breaking the Silence: Derrick “D-Nice” Jones on Music, Movement, and the Legacy of Club Quarantine

    What happens when culture becomes a form of leadership? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Derrick T. Jones, better known as D-Nice,  legendary DJ, photographer, and cultural connector, to explore how music, joy, and shared experience can shape communities and create belonging at scale. From his early days in hip-hop to the global phenomenon of Club Quarantine, D-Nice reflects on the responsibility artists carry, the power of gathering, and how creativity can serve as social infrastructure in fractured times. The conversation spans art, entrepreneurship, cultural stewardship, and what it means to hold space for people, not just entertain them. D-Nice is a world-renowned DJ, photographer, and cultural curator whose career spans decades at the intersection of music, art, and community. Rising to prominence as a pioneering hip-hop artist before becoming one of the most influential DJs of his generation, D-Nice is widely celebrated for creating Club Quarantine, a global virtual gathering that redefined connection during the COVID-19 pandemic. Through his work, D-Nice demonstrates how culture can be a unifying force — building bridges across industries, generations, and identities. Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent! 01:00 Introducing D Nice: A Multifaceted Innovator 05:40 Early Life and Hip Hop Beginnings 16:52 The Influence of Scott La Rock 32:34 Stop the Violence: A Call to Action 35:49 The World and Democracy 37:17 Political Involvement and Personal Reflections 39:02 The Birth of Club Quarantine 40:53 The Evolution of Club Quarantine 49:39 From Club Quarantine to Carnegie Hall 53:12 Breaking Precedents in Entertainment 01:03:35 The Role of AI and Technology in Creativity 01:07:01 Final Thoughts and Reflections Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. She founded TaskRabbit in 2008 after beginning her career as an engineer at IBM. Connect with Leah Website: breakingprecedent.comInstagram: @leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    1h 10m
  8. Shattering the Grid: Lynn Jurich on Electrifying Homes and Extending Women’s Lives

    12/26/2025

    Shattering the Grid: Lynn Jurich on Electrifying Homes and Extending Women’s Lives

    In this episode of Breaking Precedent, the host  Leah Solivan is joined by Lynn Jurich, co-founder and former CEO of Sunrun, to discuss her journey from growing up in Tacoma, Washington to leading one of the largest residential solar companies in the U.S. They explore the challenges and triumphs of scaling Sunrun, including innovative financing models and negotiating with utility companies. Jurich also shares personal insights on the impact of sports on resilience, the importance of strength training, and her foray into women's health through the establishment of the Female Longevity Institute. The conversation highlights Jurich's persistent optimism, innovative mindset, and commitment to transforming entrenched industries. Lynn Jurich is an entrepreneur, investor, and visionary leader who co-founded Sunrun, the nation’s leading residential solar and energy services company. Under her leadership, Sunrun grew from an idea pitched beside a county fair pumpkin stand to a publicly traded company with over a million customers, $2 billion in recurring revenue, and a $20 billion market cap. Named one of Fortune’s “Most Powerful Women,” Lynn has pioneered clean energy innovation by championing rooftop solar, distributed batteries, and consumer-driven energy independence. Listeners can learn more about Lynn Jurich at Sunrun.com and on LinkedIn . Resources: Berkshire Hathaway EnergyDOE – U.S. Department of EnergyLunar EnergyShow Notes:  00:00 Introduction to Breaking Precedent 00:21 Meet Lynn Jurich: Solar Pioneer 01:30 Personal Reflections and Icebreakers 03:40 Lynn's Early Life and Competitive Spirit 04:29 Lessons from Sports and Leadership 07:59 The Journey to Stanford and Beyond 10:41 The Birth of Sunrun and Solar as a Service 13:02 Challenges and Triumphs in Solar Energy 17:28 Navigating Financial Crises and Growth 21:12 Breaking Energy Precedents and Future Vision 25:25 Consumer Demand for Solar and Batteries 25:56 Taking Sunrun Public with a Newborn 28:07 Battling Utilities in Nevada 29:43 Sunrun's Growth and Future Innovations 31:54 Founding the Female Longevity Institute 33:54 Challenges in Women's Health Research 37:26 Precision Medicine for Women 42:35 Breaking Precedents in Energy and Healthcare 47:57 Advice for Breaking Through Entrenched Systems --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    50 min
5
out of 5
5 Ratings

About

Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.

You Might Also Like