Breaking Precedent

Leah Solivan

Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.

  1. 9h ago

    Breaking the Feed: Kass and Mike Lazerow on Building, Selling, and Betting Together

    How do you keep going when your biggest success comes with losing almost everything along the way? On Breaking Precedent, Kass and Mike Lazerow discuss their book Shoveling Shit: A Love Story and what happens when entrepreneurship and marriage collide, especially while raising three kids. They recount their early entrepreneurial roots, meeting in the mid-’90s internet era, and building Golf.com. They sold it to Chipshot during their honeymoon period, lost access to everything when Chipshot ran out of money, then rebuilt and ultimately sold Golf.com to Time Warner amid Tiger Woods’ rise. They describe starting Buddy Media in 2007 while juggling a newborn, scaling it, and selling to Salesforce for $745M, yet feeling strained, unhealthy, and disconnected afterward. Now investors, they outline their “Go Gauge” framework for evaluating ideas, argue there’s no perfect time to start, push back on bias against married co-founders, and emphasize embracing the “shoveling” reality while using AI to stay competitive. Key Insights Entrepreneurship is less about avoiding failure and more about learning to keep moving when things fall apart.The hardest parts of building a company often happen in the messy middle, when uncertainty, sacrifice, and setbacks become part of the journey.Success can look very different behind the scenes, especially when professional achievements come with personal and family costs.Complementary strengths between partners can become a powerful advantage when building a company together.Setbacks can become turning points when entrepreneurs keep working through the problem instead of staying focused on what went wrong.There may never be a “right” time to take the leap.Timestamps 00:00 Welcome  02:49 On the Entrepreneurial Journey 07:24 Early Hustles And Roots 10:45 Mike Learns Freedom 13:17 Meeting In Web One 18:17 Golf Dot Com Crash 22:24 Shoveling And Lucky Breaks 26:03 Buddy Media Sacrifices 27:53 Credit And Co Founder Balance 31:42 Exit Aftermath Feelings 33:26 Health Wake Up Call 35:31 Writing The Real Story 36:52 From Founders To Investors 39:25 Go Gauge Framework 43:11 Messy Middle Mindset 44:55 AI As Operating System 48:33 Rethinking Venture Rules 51:09 Venture Capital Reset 55:12 Legacy And Precedent 59:57 Closing Thanks  Resources Mentioned Shoveling Shit: A Love Story: https://www.shovelingshit.com/ Golf.com: https://golf.com Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com Warner Media: https://www.warnermedia.com Thank you to our Precedent Breaking Partners! Squared Away: gosquaredaway.com/breakingprecedent?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast TaskRabbit: taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Justworks: justworks.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leah_solivan/ X: https://twitter.com/labunleashed?lang=en

    Breaking the Feed: Kass and Mike Lazerow on Building, Selling, and Betting Together
  2. Oct 1

    Breaking the Capital Ceiling: Erin Harkless Moore on Who Gets Funded and Why

    What happens when a $648 billion market goes uncounted, and who decided it wasn't worth measuring in the first place? This episode follows Erin Harkless Moore from the breakfast table in San Antonio, through Goldman Sachs, Cambridge Associates, and Princeton's endowment, to Pivotal, the organization founded by Melinda French Gates, where she builds an investment program aimed at the people and markets capital has overlooked. It's a conversation about who gets funded, who gets to decide, and what changes when you start measuring what finance has ignored. Leah Solivan interviews Erin about starting her career in a Goldman Sachs group with no female partners, earning the CFA so no one could question her technical credibility, and cold-emailing Harvard Business School alumni to find her way to the allocator side of the table. She shares the index card her husband pushed her to write, a single line about changing how capital is allocated and who is in the room, and how it led to a job she half-thought was a prank, interviewing virtually as Seattle became an early COVID epicenter. Erin explains why reframing the bar isn't the same as lowering it, using the example of GP commitment requirements that can screen out fund managers who don't come from wealth. She walks through Pivotal's approach of using investing, philanthropy, and advocacy together, how DEI headwinds are showing up in fundraising right now, what she has learned from watching Melinda French Gates prepare for every meeting, and where she sees the next overlooked markets, from women's health to women's sports. She closes with what she'd write on the index card for the next generation of women building where capital hasn't looked yet. Key Insights • Reframing the bar isn't lowering it. It's asking whether you're measuring the risk you actually care about. • A market nobody has measured is easy to dismiss. Sizing it can make it undeniable. • Diligence rules like large GP commitments can screen out strong managers who didn't start with wealth. • Writing a one-line purpose down makes it easier to say no to the wrong opportunity. • No single tool moves a big problem. Investing, philanthropy, and policy work better together. • When data alone doesn't change minds, a better story often has to. • Conviction backed by homework and data is what carries you through the doubt. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent 02:09 Her Grandma’s Index Card 04:20 San Antonio Roots 08:15 Breakfast and Family Rituals 12:40 Math to Wall Street 17:37 Women in Finance Reality Check 22:29 Writing the Career Index Card 26:35 The Call From Pivotal 29:37 Betting on the Care Economy 31:21 Choosing the Leap 34:30 Sizing the Care Economy 37:33 Reframing the Bar 39:41 Living the Thesis 42:16 All Tools Strategy 45:36 DEI Headwinds Returns 49:41 Lessons From Melinda 51:51 Next Invisible Markets 55:21 Breaking Precedent Legacy 57:13 Conviction for Builders Resources Mentioned Pivotal Ventures: https://www.pivotalventures.org Magnify Ventures: https://www.magnifyventures.com Cambridge Associates: https://www.cambridgeassociates.com Thank you to our Precedent Breaking Partners! Justworks: justworks.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Squared Away: gosquaredaway.com/breakingprecedent?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast TaskRabbit: taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leah_solivan/ X: https://twitter.com/labunleashed?lang=en

    Breaking the Capital Ceiling: Erin Harkless Moore on Who Gets Funded and Why
  3. Sep 24

    Breaking the 9-to-5: Gary Swart on the Future of Work, Freelance Nation, and Betting on Founders

    What happens when you turn down an early job at Netflix, back when it was still just an idea about mailing DVDs, and then spend the next decade proving that work doesn't have to happen in an office? This episode follows Gary Swart from running a parts middleman business in New Jersey to leading oDesk for nearly ten years, the company that later merged with Elance to become Upwork. He explains the criteria he now uses for big career decisions, why weighing the people differently might have sent him to Netflix, and how oDesk made hiring talent anywhere feel normal long before the pandemic forced the issue. Leah Solivan interviews Gary Swart, now an investor at Polaris Partners, about the forks in the road that shaped his career. Swart recounts auditioning for a sales job at Reed Hastings' Pure Software without knowing how to use a mouse, the "battlefield promotions" that followed, and leaving IBM for a startup so low on cash that he refused to mislead a customer about whether it would survive. He explains how a Sigma Partners investor sent him to oDesk, where he went from COO to CEO within weeks and had to pick between staffing firm and marketplace. Swart shares the frameworks he still leans on: reversible versus irreversible decisions, people, PowerPoint and Excel for evaluating founders, and hiring for personal characteristics before skills. He walks through cutting oDesk's take rate from 30% to 10%, guaranteeing work quality, and Reed Hastings' warning that 90% of CEOs are under-focused. He also looks ahead at a future of work that is atomized, more specialized, and augmented by AI, including the app he built himself in an afternoon. And at an age when many of his peers are winding down, he explains why he's still looking for uncomfortable positions, starting with writing a book. Key Insights • If a decision is reversible, make it. Waiting for certainty usually costs more than being wrong. • The people matter more than the title. Swart says he would take a demotion to work with the smartest people he knows. • Two directions is no direction. A company pulled between two business models has to declare a major. • Customers who won't recommend you because you're their "secret weapon" are telling you something good. • Short-term revenue pain, like cutting a take rate, can buy a position competitors can't undercut. • Hire for personal characteristics first, then motivation, skills, and domain knowledge last. • Most founders are under-focused. The current market is usually big enough. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent 02:35 Turning Down Netflix 06:37 Career Decision Framework 09:51 Early Hustle in Manufacturing 11:30 Moving West Into Tech 13:16 Pure Software Baptism 16:19 Frameworks Built From Mistakes 21:50 Finding oDesk and CEO Leap 23:54 Marketplace Versus Staffing 26:38 Remote Work Unlock and Impact 31:59 Tailwinds Behind Remote Work 35:01 Geography and Global Opportunity 36:28 COVID Validation and E Commerce 37:24 Remote Work After COVID 38:49 AI Atomizes Jobs 39:53 Prototyping With AI 41:07 How Investors Decide 43:20 Scrappy Before Scaling 46:07 Pricing Take Rate Shift 49:10 Fixing Marketplace Trust 51:17 Hiring For Traits First 53:52 Backchannel References 55:57 Founder Mistakes Focus 59:26 On Demand Work Future 01:03:06 Breaking Personal Precedent 01:08:12 Closing Reflections Resources Mentioned Upwork: https://www.upwork.com Polaris Partners: https://www.polarispartners.com Thank you to our Precedent Breaking Partners! TaskRabbit: taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Justworks: justworks.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Squared Away: gosquaredaway.com/breakingprecedent?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leah_solivan/ X: https://twitter.com/labunleashed?lang=en

    Breaking the 9-to-5: Gary Swart on the Future of Work, Freelance Nation, and Betting on Founders
  4. Sep 17

    Breaking the Dress Code: Sali Christeson on Power, Workwear, and Dressing Women for the Room

    What does it take to keep building a workwear brand for a decade after a top VC tells you, in writing, that utility doesn't belong in women's clothing? This episode traces Sali Christeson's path from a childhood split between a South Carolina farm and her father's rug shop in Istanbul's bazaars to building Argent, the workwear brand she's run for a decade, showing how a VC's rejection, a crisis handled in real time, and a refusal to accept easy either/or choices became the foundation for a company built on her own terms. Leah Solivan interviews Argent founder and CEO Sali Christeson about building a workwear company outside the traditional venture path after a top-tier VC rejected her pitch in writing with the line that would become fuel for everything that followed: utility doesn't belong in women's clothing. Christeson recounts a childhood shaped by a mother who insisted she build her own career and a father who ran a rug shop in Istanbul's bazaars, an MBA and a rotational program at Cisco that exposed her to gender inequity in real time, and the decision to quit and start a fashion company with no fashion background. She describes building her own cap table out of values-aligned investors rather than chasing the roughly two percent of venture funding that goes to female founders, being eight months pregnant when COVID hit in March 2020 and closing all four Argent stores within days, and turning a warehouse of unsold hot pink suits into a partnership with Supermajority that sold out in twenty-four hours. Christeson also discusses the decision to pull a planned partnership with Planned Parenthood, finding the right creative partner after years of holding on too tightly, and what a new generation of Gen Z customers is teaching her about Argent's next chapter. Ten years in, she gives her most honest answer yet to whether anything has actually gotten better for women at work. Key Insights • A rejection can be the clearest signal you're onto something: a VC calling an idea overdone often means the market is real and nobody has solved it yet. • Building a brand as a movement, not just a product, is what keeps customers coming back for a decade instead of a season. • Being chronically underfunded can sharpen a business by forcing more disciplined decisions than a well-capitalized competitor has to make. • Fast, decisive action under pressure, like closing every store within days of a crisis, protects the business you're trying to save. • Timing and story can move product faster than the product itself. • Knowing when to walk away from a partnership that no longer fits matters as much as knowing when to commit to one. • Ten years in, the honest answer to "have things gotten better" is rarely a simple yes or no. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent 00:17 Meet Leah And Sally 02:20 Roots And Style 03:44 Work Ethic And Early Hustles 06:10 Confidence Empathy And Ambition 09:32 Structured Path To Founder 12:18 Cisco Sparks The Idea 15:15 Quitting To Build Argent 17:18 VC Bias And Pocketgate 19:31 Rewriting Fundraising Rules 22:18 World Building The Brand 26:07 Scrappy Funding Advantage 28:50 COVID Shutdown Decisions 31:53 Viral Pink Suit Campaign 33:16 Finding Creative Partner 35:07 Doubling Down Mission 39:01 Gen Z And Community 40:46 Authenticity Over Tradeoffs 42:53 Advice For Women Founders 44:35 Money And Investing Power 46:27 Messy Middle Survival 49:46 Closing Reflections Resources Mentioned Supermajority: https://supermajority.com?utm_source Planned Parenthood: https://www.plannedparenthood.org?utm_source Thank you to our Precedent Breaking Partners! TaskRabbit: https://taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Justworks: https://justworks.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Squared Away: https://gosquaredaway.com/breakingprecedent?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leah_solivan/ X: https://twitter.com/labunleashed?lang=en

    Breaking the Dress Code: Sali Christeson on Power, Workwear, and Dressing Women for the Room
  5. Sep 10

    Breaking the Code: Anne Wojcicki on Genetics, Reinvention, and Rewriting Consumer Health

    What did Anne Wojcicki see in healthcare that made her leave Wall Street and risk challenging an entire industry to put power back in patients’ hands?  Welcome to the brand new season of Breaking Precedent where Leah Solivan interviews 23andMe founder Anne Wojcicki about breaking medical “gatekeeping” by giving consumers direct access to their genetic information and using that data to drive research and prevention. Solivan shares learning she did not carry BRCA2 while pregnant, and Wojcicki recounts motivations shaped by her mother’s fierce self-advocacy, a Stanford community of inquiry, and an immigrant family history that emphasized purpose over materialism. After Yale (biology and a year of hockey) and a Wall Street career that exposed ethical problems in healthcare, Wojcicki drew inspiration from HIV patient advocates to build a platform for people to advocate for themselves.  She describes co-founding 23andMe in 2006 with Linda Avey and Paul Cusenza, early public skepticism, the unexpected power of ancestry, medical resistance to broad genetic testing, and how COVID-era telehealth and AI enable new prevention tools. Wojcicki explains buying 23andMe back via a nonprofit to better align incentives, scale research access, and build a subscription product integrating genetics with medical records, self-report data, wearables, and updated insights for personalized risk prediction and guidance. Key Insights • Questioning the status quo can become a foundation for leadership and innovation. • Unexpected experiences can reveal what truly matters and shape a person’s direction. • Advocacy can inspire people to create systems that empower others to speak for themselves. • Different perspectives can come together to create a more powerful and holistic idea. • Breaking precedent often requires challenging assumptions that others accept as normal. • Innovation requires understanding how people actually respond, not just what founders expect. • Responsible innovation means considering the ethical consequences of new technology. • Personal values can become the foundation of a larger mission to empower people and improve systems. • Purpose becomes more powerful when it extends beyond personal success and creates impact for others.  Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent  00:42 Meet Anne Wojcicki 01:58 BRCA Midnight Results 03:27 Ashkenazi Screening Gaps 04:32 Question Everything 06:12 Mom the Advocate 09:17 Rebel Teacher Mindset 12:05 Debate and Free Thinking 14:46 Stanford Community Roots 16:52 Immigrant Purpose Drive 19:42 Yale Hockey and Culture Shock 24:25 Wall Street Detour 26:13 Healthcare Ethics Wakeup 28:21 HIV Activists Inspire 31:24 Founding 23andMe 34:55 Selling Genetics DTC 38:36 Prevention Meets AI 41:45 Nonprofit Mission Shift 43:50 Drug Discovery Reality 46:31 Paying for Prevention 53:00 Closing Reflections Resources HIV Activist Movement: https://www.hiv.gov?utm_source=chatgpt.com  The Michael J. Fox Foundation: https://www.michaeljfox.org?utm_source=chatgpt.com  23andMe Research Institute: https://www.23andme.org/about/?utm_source=chatgpt.com  Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Thank you to our Precedent Breaking Partners!TaskRabbit: taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Justworks: justworks.com/?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast  Squared Away: gosquaredaway.com/breakingprecedent?utm_source=breakingprecedent&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=breakingprecedent&utm_content=podcast Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @leah_solivan X: @labunleashed

    Breaking the Code: Anne Wojcicki on Genetics, Reinvention, and Rewriting Consumer Health
  6. Aug 27

    Breaking the Bank: Aaron Holiday on 645 ventures' data-driven approach to sourcing deals and bringing the invisible to life [Replay]

    This summer, Breaking Precedent is revisiting conversations that feel just as resonant now as when they were first recorded. In this episode, Leah Solivan sits down with Aaron Holiday to explore what it means to challenge the systems and assumptions that determine who gets access to opportunity.  Aaron is the co-founder and Managing Partner at 645 Ventures. He oversees the firm’s investing approach, strategy, investor relations, and governance. Since founding 645 Ventures in 2014, Aaron has worked closely with portfolio company founders to strengthen, grow, and scale businesses. Aaron led 645 Ventures early-stage investments in several breakout successes, including Goldbelly, Iterable, FiscalNote, Squire, Resident/Nectar Sleep, FLY Labs (acquired by Google), Source3 (acquired by Facebook), and several other category-defining companies. In 2021, Aaron made the Midas Brink List of VC investor up-and-comers to watch for his involvement and investments in startup companies that have scaled to hundreds of millions in revenues and unicorn status. The conversation traces Aaron’s path from growing up in New Orleans and imagining a different future to studying computer science, working on Wall Street, entering venture capital, and building 645 Ventures. Leah and Aaron explore access to opportunity, mentorship, technology, data-driven investing, the limitations of traditional venture networks, and why finding the best founders requires looking beyond established circles. They also discuss experimentation, giving people a shot, and what it takes to build new systems when the old ones were never designed to include everyone.  Relaunch Context This episode originally captured a moment when venture capital was beginning to confront the limitations of traditional networks, narrow sourcing models, and the assumptions about where great founders and companies come from. The replay is preserved because those questions have only become more relevant: how to uncover talent beyond established circles, how technology and data can expand access to opportunity, and how to build investment systems that can see what others overlook. Aaron Holiday’s journey with 645 Ventures offers a powerful look at what happens when you challenge the conventional model and build a new way to bring the invisible to life.  Key Insights Growing up in New Orleans taught Aaron to imagine a different world and question the assumptions that define the one around him.Breaking precedent often starts with finding people who can show you what is possible beyond the world you already know.Access to information, knowledge, and resources can dramatically change the trajectory of talented people, regardless of where they come from.Aaron saw that venture capital's traditional reliance on established networks could miss promising founders and companies outside those circles.The rapid growth of startup formation created a larger pool of companies that traditional venture firms were not necessarily equipped to discover.Data and software could expand a venture firm's reach by identifying high-potential companies beyond its existing network.645 Ventures developed a different approach to early-stage investing by combining proprietary software, outbound sourcing, and a new mentality around due diligence.The firm's original fund was designed as a proof of concept for a fundamentally different model of early-stage venture capital.Technology can create societal impact at scale by making products more efficient, expanding their reach, and changing the number of lives they touch.Experimentation is central to innovation, but founders and investors also need systems that protect people when an experiment does not work.The venture industry can reproduce its own limitations when successful firms continue using the same strategies and networks that worked in the past.Opening networks is not simply a diversity strategy—it can be a fundamental requirement for finding the strongest companies in an expanding startup ecosystem.Breaking precedent requires more than identifying what is wrong with an existing system; it requires building a credible alternative and proving that it can work. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome Back to Breaking Precedent01:20 Meet Aaron Holliday04:20 New Orleans Roots05:00 Dreaming Beyond Reality06:40 Morehouse Leap08:10 Choosing Computer Science12:30 Learning Through Collaboration13:20 Hustleman Origin Story16:30 Breaking Into Internships20:20 Goldman Trading Algorithms24:20 From Goldman to GFI26:40 Discovering Venture Capital28:50 Cornell Venture Fund33:00 Advice To Work With Founders33:20 Blip TV and Early Web Video34:20 First VC Role: DFJ Gotham36:30 Cornell Tech Leap39:30 Inventing Startup Pedagogy41:40 Why 645 Was Needed45:10 Data-Driven Deal Sourcing48:40 Fund One Proof of Concept53:30 Scaling Funds Two and Three58:40 Power Law and The Invisible01:01:50 New Manager Survival01:05:40 Rapid Fire: Values and Legacy01:09:00 Closing Reflections and Outro About the Guest Aaron Holiday is the Founder and Managing Director of 645 Ventures, an early-stage venture capital firm focused on discovering promising founders beyond traditional networks. His journey began in New Orleans and took him through computer science, Wall Street, technology, and venture capital. Aaron co-founded 645 Ventures around a data-driven approach to sourcing startups, using software and technology to identify high-potential companies that might otherwise remain outside established venture networks. His work reflects his belief in expanding access to opportunity and rethinking how the venture industry discovers and supports the next generation of founders. Connect with Leah Solivan Website: breakingprecedent.comInstagram: @leah_solivan X: @labunleashed

    Breaking the Bank: Aaron Holiday on 645 ventures' data-driven approach to sourcing deals and bringing the invisible to life [Replay]
  7. Aug 20

    Summer Break: How They Broke Precedent - The Origin Stories

    This special compilation of Breaking Precedent brings together origin stories from people who have each broken precedent in a different way. Across leadership, entrepreneurship, education, music, and social mobility, the episode explores how financial constraints, family sacrifices, limited access, and unfamiliar environments can shape the people who learn to challenge what came before them. Stacy Brown-Philpot reflects on stepping into leadership without initially seeking it and the lessons her family taught her about generosity, self-advocacy, and responsibility. Samara Hernandez shares how growing up with limited resources taught her to make more out of less and find support through community. D-Nice (Derrick Jones) describes how curiosity, creative exploration, and losing everything pushed him to reinvent himself across music, photography, technology, and business. Shiza Shahid discusses breaking precedents because many of them simply did not exist for her. Bianca Gates connects her childhood experiences of exclusion and belonging to the communities she builds today. Bismarck Lepe reflects on the sacrifices his parents made to create opportunities for their children, while Aaron Holiday shares what it meant to leave New Orleans and enter a new environment where few people from his hometown had gone before him. Alejandra Campoverdi explores the complicated emotional experience of being a “first and only,” from social mobility and dual rejection to becoming both a precedent breaker and precedent setter. Together, these stories challenge the myth that success follows a clean, linear path—and show how what people were denied can become the very thing that helps them see, create, and build differently. Key Insights • Constraints can become the training ground for leadership, creativity, and resilience.• Leadership often emerges before people consciously seek leadership roles.• Scarcity can teach people to recognize possibilities and make more out of less.• Curiosity can become a powerful tool for navigating uncertainty and reinvention.• Breaking precedent often means creating a path where no clear precedent exists.• Family sacrifice can become an invisible foundation for future opportunity.• Being a “first” or “only” can involve both breaking old patterns and setting new ones.• Origin stories are rarely linear; the meaningful parts often exist between the traditional    markers of success.• Community can provide the support and belonging needed to navigate unfamiliar systems.• The experiences people are forced to navigate can eventually become resources they use to help others.• Changing a cycle is not only about personal achievement—it can make the path easier for the next generation.• Art, entrepreneurship, education, and leadership can all become ways of transforming constraint into possibility. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Breaking precedent 00:54 Accidental Leadership 02:14 Matriarch Lessons 03:54 Only One in Room 06:01 Proving Them Wrong 07:08 Scarcity to Strategy 07:33 Samara Makes More 09:52 D-Nice Reinvention 11:32 Bronx Childhood Curiosity 14:19 Hip Hop to Tech Pivot 16:57 Shiza Breaks Precedent 18:53 Pakistan Childhood Turbulence 20:37 Activism in Pakistan 21:52 Parents and Empowerment 23:37 Accidental Stanford Path 25:51 Purpose at Stanford 26:43 Bianca Gates Origins 27:55 Latina Outsider Experience 29:31 Izmir Family Sacrifice 31:00 Leaving Home for Morehouse 32:13 First Gen Anti Memoir 35:02 Dual Rejection Explained 36:48 Costume Changes and Belonging 38:19 Pride in Being First 41:36 First Gen Fund Launch 44:12 Closing Reflections Featured Voices:  Stacy Brown-Philpot, Samara Hernandez, D-Nice (Derrick Jones), Shiza Shahid, Bianca Gates, Bismarck Lepe, Aaron Holiday, Alejandra Campoverdi Resources First Gen Fund: https://www.firstgen.org/?utm_source=chatgpt.com  Taskrabbit: https://www.taskrabbit.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com  Morehouse College: https://morehouse.edu/?utm_source=chatgpt.com  Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah Solivan is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah Solivan has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah Solivan founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah Solivan: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @leah_solivan X: @labunleashed

    Summer Break: How They Broke Precedent - The Origin Stories
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Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.

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