Cabernet and Pray

Jeremy Jernigan is a former megachurch pastor turned wine-loving theologian who’s not afraid to ask the hard questions about Christianity. As the host of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy blends deep theological exploration with cultural critique, all while
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  1. The Mountains Shall Drip Sweet Wine (with John Anthony Dunne) | Ep. 66

    2D AGO

    The Mountains Shall Drip Sweet Wine (with John Anthony Dunne) | Ep. 66

    What if the Bible’s most familiar wine stories have been quietly misunderstood all along? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy sits down with New Testament scholar John Anthony Dunne, author of The Mountains Shall Drip Sweet Wine, to uncork what Scripture actually says about alcohol. From the wedding at Cana to the myth of “biblical grape juice,” they explore how modern anxieties have flattened a far richer, more embodied faith. Find out why wine was never just a metaphor, but a theological statement about God’s generosity and presence in the ordinary.  Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/PpMW6yzzJmA ----------------- Want to read my upcoming book BEFORE it comes out on March 31, 2026? Be a part of our book launch team and get early access: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/book-launch-page Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: https://amzn.to/4anM7EV  https://www.thetwocities.com/ https://www.instagram.com/johnnypepper2/ https://www.facebook.com/@johnnypepper2

    1h 34m
  2. The Atheist Pentecostal (with Colten Barnaby) | Ep. 65

    JAN 28

    The Atheist Pentecostal (with Colten Barnaby) | Ep. 65

    What happens when someone can no longer believe in God—but still can’t let go of Jesus, Pentecostalism, or the church that formed them? In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Colten Barnaby, who calls himself an “atheist Pentecostal,” to talk honestly about losing faith without losing integrity. They explore church history, certainty vs. honesty, why pretending belief can feel like a moral failure, and how many people leave Christianity not because they hate Jesus, but because God has been presented as a monster. It’s funny, vulnerable, unsettling, and surprisingly hopeful—a conversation for anyone who’s tired of fake answers and still hungry for truth, meaning, and a better imagination for what faith could be. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/I_6YYZKdvtE ----------------- Want to read my upcoming book BEFORE it comes out on March 31, 2026? Be a part of our book launch team and get early access: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/book-launch-page Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: https://www.instagram.com/coltenbarnaby/  https://www.tiktok.com/@coltenbarnaby https://www.youtube.com/@coltenbarnaby1 https://substack.com/@coltenbarnaby

    1h 27m
  3. Cathedrals of Connection (with Matt Mattson) | Ep. 64

    JAN 14

    Cathedrals of Connection (with Matt Mattson) | Ep. 64

    What if the most sacred spaces in your life aren’t churches at all, but ordinary moments of shared humanity? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy sits down with author and spiritual guide Matthew G. Matson to explore Cathedrals of Connection—a vision of faith that shifts holiness away from institutions and back into the space between people. Over a glass of wine, they talk about decentering programs, resisting performative spirituality, and rediscovering God in silence, conversation, parenting, travel, and the everyday rhythms we usually rush past. It’s an honest and gently subversive conversation for anyone who senses that Christianity has lost something vital—and wonders if connection itself might be where the divine has been hiding all along. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/TagcIay1C5Y  ----------------- Want to read my upcoming book BEFORE it comes out on March 31, 2026? Be a part of our book launch team and get early access: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/book-launch-page Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in

    1h 17m
  4. Beyond Deconstruction (with James McGrath) | Ep. 63

    12/31/2025

    Beyond Deconstruction (with James McGrath) | Ep. 63

    What comes after deconstruction? In this episode, I sit down with James McGrath to talk about what it looks like to move beyond tearing faith down and begin the slower, braver work of rebuilding it with honesty, humility, and curiosity. We wrestle with Bible scholarship, doubt, certainty, and why faith that looks like Jesus may require fewer answers and more courage. If you’ve ever felt stuck between what you can no longer believe and what you’re not sure you can believe yet, this conversation is an invitation to keep going. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/TGCzj4O5w0g  ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: James' new book: https://amzn.to/3XG2CGE

    1h 24m
  5. The Courage to Differ Graciously (with Brian McLaren) | Ep. 62

    12/17/2025

    The Courage to Differ Graciously (with Brian McLaren) | Ep. 62

    What if the real spiritual crisis isn’t disagreement, but how we disagree? In this episode, we explore why certainty has replaced curiosity and why faith so often becomes brittle instead of beautiful. We see what happens when winning arguments matters more than loving people. This isn’t a call to “be nicer,” but a challenge to examine how fear shapes our theology and fractures our communities—and whether following Jesus should make us better at holding tension, not worse. This conversation invites you to practice a courage the church desperately needs right now: the courage to differ graciously. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/X7EQxCRjyyM ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: Brian's website: https://brianmclaren.net/ Faith After Doubt: https://amzn.to/4qgymys

    1h 10m
  6. The Root and the Fruit (with David Hayward) | Ep. 61

    12/03/2025

    The Root and the Fruit (with David Hayward) | Ep. 61

    What if the faith you inherited isn’t the faith you actually want to keep? In this episode, I sit down with David Hayward—yes, the Naked Pastor himself—to talk about the root systems beneath our beliefs, the fruit they produce in real life, and why so many of us feel torn between what we were handed and what we’re becoming. If you’ve ever wondered whether God can survive your questions… or if your questions might actually be the doorway into something truer… this conversation is going to hit you right where you live. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/MmrIOoNqD98  ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: www.nakedpastor.com www.instagram.com/nakedpastor

    1h 28m
  7. Between the Pulpit and the Pub (with Gavin Linderman) | Ep. 60

    11/19/2025

    Between the Pulpit and the Pub (with Gavin Linderman) | Ep. 60

    What happens when a pastor decides the real mission field isn’t inside the church walls… but somewhere between the pulpit and the pub? In this episode, Gavin Linderman and I dive into the beautifully messy overlap of Anabaptist theology, creativity, and craft beverages. We talk about churches that accidentally turn coffee shops into Christian bookstores with bad espresso, bars that become modern monasteries, and the wild idea that the best conversations about Jesus might happen over a pint rather than in a pew. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/90M13BPuL4A  ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: www.projectbanquet.com  www.axiomchurchaz.com www.thecreatecommission.org

    1h 34m
  8. A Beautiful Year (with Diana Butler Bass) | Ep. 59

    11/05/2025

    A Beautiful Year (with Diana Butler Bass) | Ep. 59

    What if beauty isn’t something we chase, but something that’s been waiting for us all along? In this episode of Cabernet & Pray, we sit down with author and theologian Diana Butler Bass to talk about what it means to truly live a beautiful year. We discuss how joy, grief, and gratitude can all coexist at the same table. We explore what happens when faith stops being a checklist and starts becoming an experience of wonder again. Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/YAd73fCJCoU  ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone. https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  Links: Diana's new book: https://amzn.to/3LmL6Er Diana's Substack: https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/

    1h 30m
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  • Creator
    Jeremy Jernigan is a former megachurch pastor turned wine-loving theologian who’s not afraid to ask the hard questions about Christianity. As the host of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy blends deep theological exploration with cultural critique, all while
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    2023 - 2026
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