In this episode of Capital for Good with we speak with Brad Lander, New York City Comptroller and recent Mayoral candidate. As Comptroller, Lander serves as the city's chief financial officer, budget watchdog, auditor, and custodian of the City's five public pension funds, representing the retirement security — $275 billion in assets — of over 750,000 current and retired public sector workers. As fiduciary, Lander has ensured these assets are invested with a prudent, diversified, long-term approach, while also becoming a national leader on responsible investment when it comes to issues of climate change, worker protections, strong governance, and diversity. At the time of this interview, ranked choice voting had just concluded for the Democratic primary for New York mayor, with Zohran Mamdani winning in an upset over both Lander and former Governor Andrew Cuomo. We begin the conversation with Lander's early days working in community and economic development at the Fifth Avenue Committee and the Pratt Center, where he learned how to use "capital for good:" creative financing for affordable housing, including new ownership and equity models for wealth creation for lower income families, small business support and job training. These issues would inform Landers' decade in the City Council, where he co-founded the Progressive Caucus and advanced legislation on workers' rights, tenant protections, affordable housing, education, and public safety. We also explore Lander's work leading the rezoning of the Gowanus neighborhood (and former Superfund site) to create 8,500 new housing units, nearly half affordable, and affordable art studios and community spaces, as a successful model of inclusive development. Lander discusses the Comptroller's "most sacred responsibility:" its role as fiduciary of the city's pension funds, and Lander's work to deliver retirement security — achieve market rate returns — while stewarding resources "in ways that build on the values New Yorkers share." We walk through a number of examples where the Comptroller's engagement as asset owner led to better conditions for workers, greater accountability on corporate net zero commitments, enhanced board oversight, and improved financial returns. His office has also hit its performance targets while expanding the diversity of partner fund managers. "I believe firmly that attending to environmental, social and governance risks, the ESG work, is not just consistent with fiduciary duty, but an essential part of fiduciary duty," Lander says. In recent years he has worked closely on these issues with other comptrollers and state treasurers across the country. We touch on the New York City mayoral race, the twist and turns of ranked choice voting, and the developments just before the June primary that brought additional attention to the election: Lander's arrest escorting a migrant out of immigration court, the Office of the Comptroller's recovery of $80 million illegally removed from a New York City account by DOGE, and Lander and Mamdani's cross-endorsement. Of the latter, Lander notes, "it wound up unlocking a very lovely response I hadn't anticipated," a kind of hopefulness, as voters and young people especially saw that "politics can involve people working together towards shared goals for the city we love." Lander is clear eyed about the very real challenges facing the New York: affordability, government capacity to deliver a well-run city — to keep streets and subways safe and clean — and to manage budgets and growth in the face of significant headwinds from Washington. This means continuing to strengthen the cross-sector coalition he ran on to create what Dan Doctoroff has called "the virtuous cycle of a successful city," one that harnesses and celebrates growth while investing in the public goods that make that growth possible and more inclusive, and make opportunity and prosperity more broadly shared. If we can do that, he says, "I know we can keep that virtuous cycle going." Thanks for Listening! Subscribe to Capital for Good on Apple, Amazon, Google, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Drop us a line at socialenterprise@gsb.columbia.edu. Mentioned in this podcast: This Is Brad Lander's New York, (New York Times, 2025) For the Long Term Who Should Lead New York City?, (New York Times, 2025)
