Change Starts Here

Franklin Covey Education

Change Starts Here, presented by FranklinCovey Education, is the podcast for K–12 school and district leaders who are shaping—or ready to lead—meaningful change in their schools and communities. Through interviews with innovative educators and research-backed insights, each episode explores how to build leadership at all levels, foster high-trust school cultures, and achieve breakthrough results around what matters most. This podcast offers practical ideas and bold thinking to help you create lasting impact in your school community. Explore the episodes and dive into real stories, proven strategies, and the leadership mindset that transforms schools. This is your space for inspiration, clarity, and action. Real change starts here.

  1. Permission to Play: Why Joy is a Leadership Skill

    MAR 24

    Permission to Play: Why Joy is a Leadership Skill

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller challenge the way we view joy and play in education, especially during the heavy, high-stress stretch of testing season. Too often, joy is treated as a "garnish" in schools—a funny video at a staff meeting or a smoothie bar during Teacher Appreciation Week—and categorized as a mood rather than a vital capacity. However, Dr. Miller shares that joy actually has a biological architecture that fundamentally changes what the brain can do. Drawing on Barbara Fredrickson’s "broaden-and-build theory" and Dr. Stuart Brown's research on play histories, the hosts reveal that play is not a reward for finished work; it is a biological drive as essential as sleep and nutrition. The conversation unpacks how the demands of leadership train the brain to constantly scan for problems, which can trigger "foreboding joy" and shut down our access to playfulness. Listeners will walk away with three highly intentional, small practices to rebuild this capacity: training your "delight muscle," going first with vulnerability, and protecting one entirely unproductive ritual. Download the free episode assets: Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/CSH-handout-e27?x=D1cEja Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/csh_staffbooster_ep27?x=D1cEja Host: Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)  Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Timestamps:  (00:00 - 01:15) Podcast intro (01:15 - 03:28) The delight muscle (03:28 - 06:30) Joy as a capacity (06:30 - 08:34) Broaden and build theory (08:34 - 10:14) Play is a biological drive (10:14 - 12:39) Brain mechanisms of play (12:39 - 15:46) Foreboding joy in leadership (15:46 - 17:40) Realistic, adaptable leadership (17:40 - 19:56) Practice 1: Delight muscle (19:56 - 21:34) Practice 2: Go real (21:34 - 24:43) Practice 3: Unproductive ritual

    25 min
  2. How Educators Can Help Students Rewrite Their “Broken Soundtracks” | Lessons on Mindset With Jon Acuff

    MAR 17

    How Educators Can Help Students Rewrite Their “Broken Soundtracks” | Lessons on Mindset With Jon Acuff

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham sits down with New York Times bestselling author Jon Acuff to explore the profound impact of mindset on both students and educators. Jon unpacks his concept of "broken soundtracks"—the negative, repetitive thoughts that hold us back—and explains why issues like procrastination, perfectionism, and imposter syndrome are not physical hurdles, but mindset challenges. Jon shares practical strategies for identifying and replacing these broken soundtracks, starting with a simple two-step exercise that educators can use in the classroom to uncover limiting beliefs. He also challenges adults to lead by example, arguing that we must be as brave as we ask our students to be. Whether you are an educator trying to inspire a classroom or a leader trying to silence your own inner critic, this conversation offers actionable advice on how to practice positivity and turn overthinking into a superpower. Visit Jon’s Website to learn more: https://store.jonacuff.com/   Purchase your copy of Jon’s best-selling book, Soundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking https://store.jonacuff.com/soundtracks  Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education) Guest: Jon Acuff (New York Times Bestselling Author) Timestamps:  (00:00 - 02:37) Intro (02:37 - 07:10) Solving the overthinking problem (07:10 - 09:46) Mindset as a multiplier (09:46 - 12:43) The lifecycle of a broken soundtrack (12:43 - 15:16) A classroom mindset exercise (15:16 - 18:49) Leading by example (18:49 - 23:39) Practicing positivity (23:39 - 28:53) Betting on yourself (28:53 - 30:47) Idea bankruptcy (30:47 - 33:17) Empowering the next generation (33:17 - 35:01) Lean into your one verse (35:01 - 37:42) Closing

    38 min
  3. How Curiosity Drives Deeper Learning

    MAR 10

    How Curiosity Drives Deeper Learning

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris explores a pressing question in education: are students and adults less curious than they used to be? In a fast-paced world, the space for wondering is often crowded out by the demand for immediate answers. Yet, workforce research continuously identifies curiosity as a critical, durable skill essential for problem-solving, adaptability, and long-term learning. Kim dismantles the conventional myth that curiosity is simply a fixed personality trait. Instead, she shares five research insights proving it is highly responsive to its environment. Listeners will learn the neuroscience behind why curiosity emerges when uncertainty feels manageable, and how true engagement often looks more like productive struggle than cheerful exploration. Finally, Kim offers three practical moves for leaders to nurture curiosity in their teams and classrooms: building tiny moments of prediction, normalizing uncertainty, and ensuring questions don't hit a dead end. Download the Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_ep25?x=I8LeIC Hosts: Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Timestamps:  (00:00 - 01:29) The curiosity question  (01:29 - 02:58) A durable, essential skill  (02:58 - 04:19) The conventional curiosity (04:19 - 06:19) Five research insights  (06:19 - 08:13) The neuroscience of uncertainty  (08:13 - 09:30) Practice 1: Tiny predictions  (09:30 - 10:28) Practice 2: Normalize uncertainty  (10:28 - 11:20) Practice 3: Avoid dead ends (11:20 - 12:27) Outro

    12 min
  4. High Expectations: Belief, Behavior, or Both?

    FEB 24

    High Expectations: Belief, Behavior, or Both?

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into the pervasive and often misunderstood topic of "high expectations." While most leaders strive to raise the bar, they often see the same patterns repeat: the same students doing the thinking and the same staff carrying the load. Kim and Eve explore the research behind why this happens, revealing that high expectations are not just a mindset, but a visible environment created by thousands of micro-decisions. Listeners will be guided through a visualization exercise to understand how belief shifts behavior, from the feedback we give to the opportunities we offer. The hosts unpack four research-backed practices to disrupt low-expectation cycles: conducting an "Opportunity Audit," separating a student's "snapshot" from their potential "pathway," utilizing "Wise Feedback," and pairing challenge with structural support. This episode challenges educators to examine their default settings and intentionally design cultures where growth is the norm, not the exception. Our Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/lim_staffbooster_episode23?x=63yTZl Download the Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-23?x=63yTZl Hosts:  Kim Yaris, M.Ed. Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education Dr. Eve Miller, Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education Timestamps: (00:00 - 00:42) Podcast intro  (00:42 - 01:49) The expectation gap  (01:49 - 04:24) Visualizing belief versus doubt  (04:24 - 06:28) Expectations as environments  (06:28 - 08:46) How expectations leak out  (08:46 - 10:45) Cycles of expectations  (10:45 - 13:21) Balancing efficiency and expectation  (13:21 - 16:21) Labels and self-perception (16:21 - 18:24) Practice 1: Opportunity Audit  (18:24 - 19:35) Practice 2: Snapshot vs Pathway  (19:35 - 20:30) Practice 3: Wise Feedback  (20:30 - 21:54) Practice 4: Challenge and Support  (21:54 - 23:00) Closing thoughts

    23 min
  5. Burnout to Breakthrough: Better Choices for Busy Leaders

    FEB 18

    Burnout to Breakthrough: Better Choices for Busy Leaders

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, host Dustin Odham is joined by Kory Kogon, FranklinCovey’s Global Practice Leader for Content Development and co-author of The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary Productivity. Together, they address the mounting pressure on educators to "do it all" and the burnout that inevitably follows. Kory explains why the old "work 'til you drop" mentality is no longer sustainable in an age of constant digital distraction and generational shifts. Kory breaks down the framework of The 5 Choices, explaining how it complements the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by offering a practical system for decision, attention, and energy management. Listeners will learn how to identify their "extraordinary roles," avoid "accidental energy drainers" that demoralize teams, and why physical renewal is a biological necessity for brain function, not just a luxury. This conversation is a roadmap for high performers to move from feeling buried by the whirlwind to achieving meaningful results without sacrificing their well-being. Get your copy of The 5 Choices: https://www.amazon.com/Choices-Path-Extraordinary-Productivity/dp/1476711712/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1413483143&sr=1-2&keywords=the+five+choices+to+extraordinary+productivity Host: Dustin Odham, FranklinCovey Education Guest: Kory Kogon, Co-author, The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary Productivity Timestamps:  (00:00 - 02:07) Introduction and Context  (02:07 - 04:39) Meet Kory Kogon  (04:39 - 06:23) Rethinking Productivity  (06:23 - 08:56) 5 Choices and 7 Habits  (08:56 - 12:02) Decision Management  (12:02 - 13:04) Attention Management  (13:04 - 18:08) Real-World Impact Stories  (18:08 - 22:56) Fuel Your Fire  (22:56 - 28:50) Managing Overwhelm  (28:50 - 35:14) Modeling Energy Leadership  (35:14 - 37:15) Practical First Steps  (37:15 - 40:04) 5 Choices and 4DX  (40:04 - 42:17) Accidental Energy Drainers  (42:17 - 43:15) Conclusion

    43 min
  6. The Truth About Reflection — And Why It Often Fails

    FEB 10

    The Truth About Reflection — And Why It Often Fails

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller tackle a practice that is ubiquitous in education yet often misunderstood: reflection. While educators and students are constantly asked to reflect, it frequently feels shallow, performative, or exhausting. Kim and Dr. Miller explore the neuroscience behind why reflection works, revealing that without it, experience simply hardens habits rather than creating learning. Listeners will learn the critical neurological distinction between reflection and rumination, and how leaders often unintentionally trigger the latter. The conversation highlights that reflection is not a passive review of the past, but an active state of inquiry that requires psychological safety to engage the prefrontal cortex. By shifting from "why" questions to "what" questions and treating reflection as a learned skill, leaders can turn this practice into a powerful engine for self-regulation and capacity building. Download the Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/CSH-Truth-reflection?x=fmnfWP Hosts: Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) Timestamps:  (00:00 - 00:55) Podcast intro and topic   (00:55 - 02:44) The tension of reflection  (02:44 - 04:23) Experience versus learning   (04:23 - 05:15) The cycle of inquiry   (05:15 - 07:25) Why reflection drives growth   (07:25 - 09:53) Neuroscience of the brain   (09:53 - 12:33) Reflection versus rumination   (12:33 - 14:20) Common reflection misconceptions   (14:20 - 15:41) Practical leadership strategies   (15:41 - 18:05) Closing thoughts

    18 min
4.9
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39 Ratings

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Change Starts Here, presented by FranklinCovey Education, is the podcast for K–12 school and district leaders who are shaping—or ready to lead—meaningful change in their schools and communities. Through interviews with innovative educators and research-backed insights, each episode explores how to build leadership at all levels, foster high-trust school cultures, and achieve breakthrough results around what matters most. This podcast offers practical ideas and bold thinking to help you create lasting impact in your school community. Explore the episodes and dive into real stories, proven strategies, and the leadership mindset that transforms schools. This is your space for inspiration, clarity, and action. Real change starts here.

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