Creator Science

Jay Clouse

Creating content has never been easier. But breaking through the noise? That's gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business. Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income. But here's what makes this different: we don't just talk about what happened. We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout. Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content – approached with curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth. It's growth for creators, down to a science.

  1. How to LEGALLY Protect Your Channel with YouTube Lawyer Tyler Chou

    4D AGO

    How to LEGALLY Protect Your Channel with YouTube Lawyer Tyler Chou

    Tyler Chou spent nearly two decades as an entertainment attorney in Hollywood, with senior roles at Disney, Skydance, BuzzFeed, before starting her own YouTube channel, which brought her into this world of creators. And today, she helps clients like Sam & Colby, Andy Morris, and Jenny Hoyos stay on the right side of the law. Unfortunately, that’s getting harder (and scarier) all the time. But that doesn’t mean you can’t protect yourself. And Tyler is going to show us how you can start doing so – today. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Tyler's Website / Instagram / LinkedIn / TikTok / YouTube *** TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Meet the Lawyer Saving YouTube Channels (04:35) Music Publishers and Copyright Strikes (09:54) Getting Strikes Removed (13:08) YouTube Strikes and Litigation Process (15:37) How we use 1of10 (20:28) Resolving Copyright Strikes Creatively (21:46) How Creators Misunderstand Fair Use (27:11) Essential Steps for Creator Protection (30:18) Protecting Partnerships from Future Risks (33:15) Protecting YouTube Channel Ownership (37:37) Photo Licensing and Fair Use (41:05) The Upside of Litigation (42:01) Why This Shouldn't Scare You *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#263: Colin & Samir on the future of their channel and the creator economy *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors

    45 min
  2. How we navigate our different internal characters (and her experience as a first time author) | Amanda Goetz

    OCT 21

    How we navigate our different internal characters (and her experience as a first time author) | Amanda Goetz

    In today's episode, I am speaking with my dear friend Amanda Goetz. Amanda is my favorite kind of person. She works her butt off, but she's also sensitive and introspective. Her perspective on ambition and how to marry it with family life is baked into her new book, called Toxic Grit, How to Have It All and Actually Love What You Have. Amanda is a two-time founder, four-time CMO, and single mom of three. She inspires over 150,000 people every week through her social insights and weekly newsletter Life's a Game. Previously, Amanda founded House of Wise, the luxury wellness brand giving women permission to make space for better sleep, hotter sex, less stress, and more strength. House of Wise was acquired in 2022, and before that, Amanda spent five years at the Knot Worldwide as Head of Brand Marketing. Learn more about Amanda Order Toxic Grit Amanda's Instagram / Twitter / LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Amanda's Inspiring Journey & Book 04:35 Embracing Multifaceted Female Identity 06:30 Rediscovering Authentic Self Needs 11:34 Seeking Validation as a Creator 13:29 Life's a Game Newsletter Launch 18:06 Building a Brand for Publishing 22:39 Industry Feedback and Benchmarks 25:12 First Book Needn't Be Best 29:05 Self-Understanding and Growth Process 31:37 Authenticity and Emotional Maturity 37:00 Authenticity and Creative Energy 40:34 Transitioning to Intimacy Mode 42:57 Mastering Co-Parenting Early 45:23 Trusting Publisher's Title Process 49:05 Focus, Strategy, Connection *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#276: From self-publishing to traditional and becoming a NYT best-seller | Pat Flynn (Part 2) *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors

    55 min
  3. OCT 14

    How I’m Approaching The Rest of 2025 (Behind The Scenes)

    Today, I want to take you behind the scenes in The Lab this week. Every month I do a retro where I look at the months that just passed, things that went well, things that didn't go well, things that I'm changing because of that. I wanted to share a version of that here on the channel and on the podcast feed, and hopefully by learning more about what's going on in my head, not only do you feel a little bit seen and understood, but maybe it gives you some insight and unlocks something for you in your own business as well. So in this episode, I'll be looking at the last quarter of the year. I want to look at my business, how it's performing so far, and where we're heading. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Quarterly Business Review Insights 06:26 Parenting, Priorities, and Adaptation 08:09 Lab and Book Priorities 11:51 Refocusing on Creator Priorities 15:41 Ambition on My Terms 19:40 Writing, Thinking, and Mimetic Desire 21:40 Content Repurposing Across Platforms 25:56 Content & Product Strategy Update 30:29 Lab Membership Updates & Features 31:54 Making the Book a Success 35:44 Balancing the Perfect Title 38:11 Struggling to Do Less *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#270: Being a creator and a parent | Jay-Talking with Jay Acunzo *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors

    44 min
  4. OCT 7

    The best and worst income streams for creators (ranked)

    I’ve been a full-time creator for 8 years now and have earned $2,192,000 since 2022. I’ve spent a LOT of time and money experimenting with different ways to make money on the internet, so I’m going to rank them. The best and the worst. I show you 15 different revenue streams and rate them from S to F based on their potential versus the effort required. By the very end of the video, you’ll know which ones are right for you. And at any point, if you agree or disagree, let me know in the comments. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** TIMESTAMPS (00:32) AdSense (01:36) Sponsorship & Brand Deals (03:30) Content Memberships (04:30) Done-For-You Services (05:27) Royalties (06:28) 1-to-1 Coaching & Consulting (07:38) Affiliates (09:36) User Generated Content (UGC) (10:17) Group Programs (11:25) Digital Products (12:56) Speaking (14:27) Live Events (15:53) Community Memberships *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#267: When to use low-ticket offers, refund policies, how much I earned in the last 12 months, and my 5-year vision [Ask CS Pt. 1] *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors

    21 min
  5. From self-publishing to traditional and becoming a NYT best-seller | Pat Flynn (Part 2)

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    From self-publishing to traditional and becoming a NYT best-seller | Pat Flynn (Part 2)

    This episode is part two of my recent conversation with Pat Flynn. Pat, is an online business legend, and this is the third time he's been on the show. Pat is the founder of Smart Passive Income. In this episode, we dig into his experience publishing his latest book, Lean Learning: How to Achieve More by Learning Less. Lean Learning was a New York Times bestseller. Get Pat’s book, Lean Learning ⁠Deep Pocket Monster⁠ ⁠Short Pocket Monster⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pat's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠TikTok⁠ *** TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Reached Goal, Life Unchanged 04:14 Navigating Traditional Publishing Challenges 08:46 Leveraging Connections for Future Opportunities 12:21 Book Launch Strategy Concerns 15:38 Just in Time Learning 19:33 Unexpected Pokemon-Entrepreneurship Crossover 23:06 Multitasking Prevents Entrepreneur Burnout 25:49 Podcast Guesting Boosted Book Launch 29:37 Book Launch and Interview Journey 32:46 Monthly Networking Reflection Ritual 36:27 Collaborative Friendship and Opportunities 37:03 Embracing Abundance, Supporting Each Other 40:31 Leave Feedback on Podcasts *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#275: From ignoring short-form video to 3.5 billion views | Pat Flynn’s Pokémon juggernaut (Part 1) *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors and offers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ***

    45 min
  6. From ignoring short-form video to 3.5 billion views | Pat Flynn’s Pokémon juggernaut (Part 1)

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    From ignoring short-form video to 3.5 billion views | Pat Flynn’s Pokémon juggernaut (Part 1)

    Pat Flynn (also known as Deep Pocket Monster or the Should I Open It Or Should I Keep It Sealed Guy) is the man with the most famous thumbs on the Internet. Pat has been a staple in the online business community for over a decade. But it's his short form Pokemon card series, that launched him to new heights. Today, we're breaking down exactly how he did it from the very beginning. In this episode, we talk about embracing your uniqueness, how to find inspiration, and whether or not he would put shorts and long-form videos on the same channel if he were starting over. Deep Pocket Monster Short Pocket Monster ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pat's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ / TikTok *** TIMESTAMPS (00:00) The Man Who Solved Shorts (01:39) How SIOIOSIKIS Almost Failed (09:52) Differences Between Short Form Platforms (13:41) Should Shorts Be on A DIFFERENT Channel? (20:58) How to Innovate Formats (25:54) Using Voiceover for Storytelling (33:24) When is it Time to Quit a Project *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#167: Jenny Hoyos – How she averages 10 million views per video (YouTube Shorts) *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors and offers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SAY THANKS 💜 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leave a review on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟢 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leave a rating on Spotify

    40 min
  7. Podcast growth strategies (paid and organic) with Jeff Umbro of The Podglomerate

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    Podcast growth strategies (paid and organic) with Jeff Umbro of The Podglomerate

    This week, I'm speaking with my friend Jeff Umbro. Jeff is the founder and CEO of The Podglomerate, which helps you produce, market, and monetize your podcast. The Podglomerate's worked with some of the biggest podcast clients in the world, from creators like me to major brands like Netflix, NPR, PBS, HubSpot, Harvard, Substack, and more. Since its start in 2016, The Podglomerate has grown to represent more than 70 podcasts, accounting for more than 30 million monthly downloads. All that to say, Jeff is legit, and he knows his stuff. One of the things I appreciate most about Jeff is that he's honest and a straight shooter. So, in this episode, we talk about podcast growth, explore both organic and paid growth strategies, Jeff's experience with both, and, of course, I share my experience as well. PodglomerateIntrocastPodrollAdvertise with Acast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Full transcript and show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Jeff's ⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠ *** TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Jeff Umbro: Podcasting Powerhouse 05:42 Innovative Marketing and Networking Strategy 06:33 Niche Show Strategy Planning 10:45 Podcast Audience Growth Strategy 13:39 AI Prompts Drive Web Traffic 17:03 Building Cross-Platform Audience Connections 21:10 Growing Podcast Audiences: Strategy Insights 22:32 Podcast Promotion Over Essays 29:06 Spotify's Editorial and Algorithmic Opportunities 32:03 Apple Podcast Metrics and Exploits 35:24 Spotify's Video Incentive Strategy 38:52 Spotify's Creator Fund Strategy 42:22 Ad Strategies: Effectiveness Varies 45:16 Podcast Advertising & Audience Alignment 47:51 Effective Pixel-Based Attribution Tracking 49:32 Monetizing Podcasts Through Feed Drops 52:56 Pod Roll: Dynamic RSS Episode Inserts 57:28 Affordable Podcast Advertising Platforms *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#212: Dan Misener – How to ACTUALLY grow your podcast (and measure its success) → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#177: Chris Hutchins – A master of podcast growth and building relationships. *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit your question here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Creator Science Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🚀 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get CreatorHQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (creator operating system) 🧪 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Lab⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get a Personalized Offer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** CONNECT 🐦 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📸 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SPONSORS 💼 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠View all sponsors and offers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** SAY THANKS 💜 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leave a review on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟢 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leave a rating on Spotify

    1h 4m
  8. How to create a scrappy industry report that elevates your brand | Jeremy Enns

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    How to create a scrappy industry report that elevates your brand | Jeremy Enns

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Creating content has never been easier. But breaking through the noise? That's gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business. Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income. But here's what makes this different: we don't just talk about what happened. We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout. Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content – approached with curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth. It's growth for creators, down to a science.

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