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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

    Pat Gelsinger came back to turn Intel around – here’s how it’s going

    Pat Gelsinger came back to turn Intel around – here’s how it’s going

    Today I'm talking to Pat Gelsinger, the CEO of Intel. I’ve been excited to have this conversation for a very long time – ever since Pat took over as CEO a little over a year and a half ago. After all. Intel is a very important company with a huge series of challenges in front of it. It’s still the largest chip manufacturer by revenue, and makes more chips than any other company in the United States. In fact there are basically only three major chip manufacturers: Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, or TSMC, which is in Taiwan, Samsung, based in South Korea. And Intel, here in the United States.
    The Intel Pat took over was struggling, and was losing ground to in a variety of markets. But in the past year and a half, Pat’s restructured the company, turned over almost all of its leadership positions, opened a new line of business that would compete with TSMC and make chips for other companies including Intel’s competitors, and generally tried to reset Intel’s famous engineering culture around engineering.

    Glossary:
    IFS - Intel Foundry Service.
    Raptor Lake - codename for intel's Gen 13 processors that were just the day before we had our conversation.
    Sapphire Rapids - the codename for Intel's 4th generation Xeon server processors.
    20A and 18A - 20A is a rebranding of what was intel's 5nm process scheduled to debut in 2024 and 18A is a rebranding of Intels 5nm+ node due out in 2025.
    Packaging - integrated circuit packaging is the last step of semiconductor fabrication. It's where a block of semiconductor material is put into a case. The case, is known as a "package" and that is what allows you put a circuit on a board.
    Wafers - When a processor is made they make processors you make hundreds of them at once on a giant wafer. 
    EUV - is Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography. It's the most advanced way to make chips. 
    ASML - Is the company that makes the machines that lets you make chips. They are the only company that makes EUV machines.
    RibbonFET - A new transistor technology that Intel developed.
    ISV - Independent Software Vendors.
    PDK - Process Design Kit is a set of files that have data and algorithms that explain the manufacturing parameters for a given silicon process.
    EDA tools - stands for Electronic Design Automation tools. Basically software tools that are used to design and validate the semiconductor manufacturing process.
    Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore - the founders of Intel.
    Andy Grove - employee #3 who went on to become one of their most successful CEOs.

    Links:
    Moore's Law
    Intel is replacing its CEO in February
    Intel has to be better than ‘lifestyle company’ Apple at making CPUs, says new CEO
    Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year
    Apple MacBook Air with M1 review: new chip, no problem 
    What we know about Intel’s $20 billion bet on Ohio
    Intel is building a new €17 billion semiconductor manufacturing hub in Germany
    Intel delays ceremony for Ohio factory over lack of government funding
    Intel needs 7,000 workers to build its $20 billion chip plant in Ohio
    Biden signs $280 billion CHIPS and Science Act
    President Joe Biden speaks after groundbreaking for Intel’s $20 billion semiconductor plant
    Intel’s top Arc A770 GPU is priced at $329, available October 12th
    Intel’s 13th Gen processors arrive October 20th with $589 flagship Core i9-13900K

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/23149693

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan. 
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    • 1 hr 10 min
    How Arm conquered the chip market without making a single chip, with CEO Rene Haas

    How Arm conquered the chip market without making a single chip, with CEO Rene Haas

    One of the more interesting quirks of the modern tech world is that there’s a really important company at the center of it all that doesn’t make anything. But its work is in your phone, in your TV, your car and maybe even your laptop. I’m talking about ARM, a chip design company that’s been through quite a lot these past few years, and I'm talking to Arm CEO Rene Haas.
    Arm designs the instruction sets for modern chips: Qualcomm’s chips are Arm chips. Apple’s chips are Arm chips. Samsung’s chips are Arm chips. It’s the heart of modern computing. Arm licenses the instruction set to those companies, who then go off and actually make chips with all sorts of customizations. Basically every smartphone runs an Arm processor, Apple’s Macs now run arm processors, and everything from cars to coffee machines are showing up with more and more arm processors in them.

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    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/23137412

    Links:
    The Vergecast: The HDMI Holiday Spec-tacular on Apple Podcasts 
    Biden signs $280 billion CHIPS and Science Act
    Intel needs 7,000 workers to build its $20 billion chip plant in Ohio - The Verge
    What comes after the smartphone, with Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon - The Verge
    Why the global chip shortage is making it so hard to buy a PS5
    Nvidia’s huge Arm deal has just been scrapped
    What is a SoC?
    What is an ECU?

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan. 
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    • 1 hr 4 min
    Can software simplify the supply chain? Ryan Petersen thinks so

    Can software simplify the supply chain? Ryan Petersen thinks so

    Ryan Petersen, is the CEO of Flexport, ac ompany that builds software that integrates all the different shipping vendor systems you might run into as you try to get a product from a factory in China to a consumer in Idaho: rail, sea, truck. We’ve talked about the supply chain and inventory management on Decoder with a lot of our guests — the chip shortage seems to affect every company, and sorting out how to get products made and delivered on time is a pretty universal problem. But we haven’t really talked about how products get from one place to another around the world.
    So I wanted to talk to Ryan, figure out what Flexport’s role in all this is, what his bigger supply chain solutions would be, and why he’s leaving his job as CEO to be executive chairman and handing the reins to Dave Clark, who used to work at Amazon.

    Links:
    Dave Clark to Join Flexport As Our New CEO
    Flexport Wants to Be Uber of the Oceans
    At Google, Eric Schmidt Wrote the Book on Adult Supervision
    The real story behind a tech founder’s ‘tweetstorm that saves Christmas’
    Ryan's twitter thread

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/23126062

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan. 
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    • 1 hr 4 min
    Everyone knows what YouTube is. Few know how it really works.

    Everyone knows what YouTube is. Few know how it really works.

    Today, I’m talking to Mark Bergen, a reporter at Bloomberg and the author of a new book about YouTube called. Like, Comment, Subscribe: Inside YouTube’s Chaotic Rise to World Domination.

    YouTube has always been fascinating to me because it’s such a black box: everyone feels like they know how the platform works, but very few people have a real understanding of the internal politics and tradeoffs that actually drive YouTube’s decision. Mark’s book is one of the best of its kind I’ve read: not only does he take you inside the company, but he connects the decisions made inside YouTube to the creators who use the platform and the effects it has on them.

    This was a fun one – keep in mind that for as little as we might know about YouTube, we might know even less about TikTok, which is driving all sorts of platforms, even YouTube, into competing with it.

    Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/23113078 

    Links:
    YouTube Partner Program
    Hank Green on Decoder
    iJustine


    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.
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    • 1 hr 6 min
    Rewind: How big companies kill ideas — and how to fight back, with Tony Fadell

    Rewind: How big companies kill ideas — and how to fight back, with Tony Fadell

    This episode was originally published on May 3rd, 2022.
    Tony Fadell was instrumental in the development of the iPod and iPhone at Apple and then co-founded Nest Labs, which kicked off the consumer smart home market with its smart thermostat in 2011. Tony sold Nest to Google for $3.2 billion in 2014 and eventually left Google. He now runs an investment company called Future Shape. 

    Links:
    Inside the Nest: iPod creator Tony Fadell wants to reinvent the thermostat
    General Magic - Trailer
    Inside Facebook’s metaverse for work
    Silicon Graphics
    Google is reorganizing and Sundar Pichai will become new CEO
    Fire drill: can Tony Fadell and Nest build a better smoke detector?
    Google purchases Nest for $3.2 billion
    Twitter accepts buyout, giving Elon Musk total control of the company
    Nest is rejoining Google to better compete with Amazon and Apple
    Apple Music Event 2005 - Motorola Rokr E1 / iTunes Phone
    Activision Blizzard hit with another sexual harassment lawsuit
    Nest buying video-monitoring startup Dropcam for $555 million
    What matters about Matter, the new smart home standard
    ZIGBEE ON MARS!

    Directory:
    Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple
    Andy Grove, former CEO of Intel
    Pat Gelsinger, current CEO of Intel
    Sundar Pichai, current CEO of Alphabet
    Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, and The Boring Company
    Jeff Williams, COO of Apple
    Matt Rogers, Nest co-founder
    Jeff Robbin, VP of consumer applications at Apple
    Steve Hoteling, former CEO gesture recognition company Finger Works
    Jon Rubinstein, senior VP of the iPod division at Apple
    Steve Sakomen, hardware engineer and executive at Apple 
    Avie Tavanian, chief software technology officer at Apple
    Scott Forstall, senior VP of iOS software, Apple
    Jony Ive, chief design officer, Apple

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22817673

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.  
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    • 1 hr 18 min
    How the head of Facebook plans to compete with TikTok and win back Gen Z

    How the head of Facebook plans to compete with TikTok and win back Gen Z

    We’ve got a special episode of Decoder today – an interview between Verge deputy editor Alex Heath and Meta’s Tom Alison, the head of Facebook. Alex is the co-host of the newest season of Vox Media’s podcast Land of the Giants. This season is about Facebook and Meta. The season finale comes out tomorrow.
    Alex has been reporting for Land of the Giants for many months, and along the way he interviewed Tom. Facebook has a lot of challenges, but it seems like the biggest problem is TikTok: Facebook's problem is that it spent years – you spent years – building out a social graph that, it turns out, is less interesting than just being shown content that the company thinks you might like. Alison has been at Facebook for more than a decade and previously ran engineering for the News Feed, so he knows more than almost anyone about the history of feeds and where they are going.

    Links:
    Land of the Giants
    Facebook is changing its algorithm to take on TikTok, leaked memo reveals
    Facebook is revamping its home feed to feel more like TikTok

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/23092319

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.
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    • 1 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

4.1 out of 5
2.7K Ratings

2.7K Ratings

Andelpink ,

Great Podcast but…

Nilay is a great host, he does a superb job interviewing people. Decoder has some of of the most interesting people in the tech and business worlds on regularly. Im excited to see who they have an each week. Having said that, it’s evident that this show is heavily influenced by liberal ideology. I question if Nilay truly believes in some of the principles he advocates for on the show. I have a feeling that the people writing his checks are influencing that aspect of the show. That’s why I only give it four stars.

jswhitney7 ,

Decoder is essential for staying aware in almost all industries

Nilay is an excellent host, and hearing such a variety of personalities and perspectives is so important to stay aware and informed on what is happening across many industries. Hearing the insights from leaders in these companies gives you such an understanding on why things are. Nilay does such a great job at pushing these folks and asking right questions. Probably the only podcast I try to push on my coworkers and colleagues.

ga134141 ,

Below average show with predictable boring content

Sorry Nilay. The content has been trending downhill for months.

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