Exponential NEXT Podcast

Exponential NEXT
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Welcome to the Exponential NEXT Podcast where ministry and church leaders come together to discuss topics that give you a peek into the future of the church. At Exponential NEXT we focus on discovering what is coming NEXT for the future of the church that can lead to accelerating church multiplication. Join a community of kingdom-minded changemakers exploring innovative models, methods, and approaches for reaching, discipling, and mobilizing people with a strong focus on church planting, together. With new conversations every Wednesday, we will dive into topics we believe will help us all see what’s coming around the corner for the Church. Discover more about Exponential NEXT by visiting us at exponential.org/next.

  1. 1D AGO

    EP 101: The Lie of Going It Alone

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 101 Series: From Soil to Forest: The Practice of Networked Ministry Description: In this first episode, Patrick O’Connell, Director of Networks NEXT, talks with Mark Neal, COO of Apsire Network and Co-Founder of Clarity Ministries. The conversation in this episode centers around moving from an isolated ministry toward a mission-oriented community and calling leaders back to a shared mission. Host: Patrick O’Connell, Networks NEXT, Director Guest: Mark Neal, Aspire Network, COO and Clarity Ministries, Co-Founder Links Shared in Episode: Clarity Leadership Collective Aspire Network Category: Networks NEXT

    41 min

  2. APR 8

    EP 100: Is Using AI Sinful? 10 Must-Ask Questions About AI in Ministry

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 100 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Description: AI is here, and your congregation has questions. Is it a sin to use it? Will AI replace jobs? And what about your kids using it? Nils Smith, VP of Marketing for Faith Driven Entrepreneur and founder of Amplify Social Media, walks through the top 10 questions pastors are being asked about artificial intelligence. Learn how AI can be a tool for organizational efficiency and an “incredible tool” for spreading the Gospel, without replacing the essential human connection and worship the church is built on. Don’t miss Nils’ answers to the deepest question your members are asking: What makes humans special if AI can do what we do, perhaps even better than we can? This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next. Guest: Nils Smith, Faith Driven Entrepreneur, Vice President and Amplify Social Media, Founder Category: AI NEXT

  3. APR 1

    EP 99: How Eleven22’s AI Strategy Saves Thousands And Disciples More People

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 99 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Description: Jay Owen, Chief of Ministry Staff at Church of Eleven22, shares how his team builds custom ministry apps in hours using AI-powered tools. His church now creates software solutions for under $3 that used to cost tens of thousands of dollars and take weeks to develop. In this practical episode, Jay walks through real examples including: A personalized wallpaper creator built in 45 minutes the night before a major presentation A baptism registration system that served nearly 2,000 people A sermon search tool that indexes 890 hours of content Landing pages created for $0.50 in 2 minutes You’ll learn about vibe coding with tools like Replit, where ideas become working applications through simple descriptions. Jay walks through actual builds, shows troubleshooting in real time, and explains which projects work best for this approach. Whether you’re tech-savvy or someone who barely likes being on the computer, you’ll discover specific tools and workflows that reduce costs, improve user experience, and create stronger discipleship pathways. This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next. Guest: Jay Owen, Church of Eleven22, Chief of Ministry Staff Category: AI NEXT

    41 min

  4. MAR 25

    EP 98: AI Jiu-Jitsu: How Pastors Can Own the Data and Beat the Robots at Their Own Game

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 98 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Description: AI is a “force multiplier” for the Kingdom, but instead of being a friend or an enemy, you should make AI your frenemy. In this episode, Jason Morris introduces the “Art of AI Jiu-Jitsu”, teaching pastors how to use AI as an “adversarial network” to leverage its power while avoiding its weaknesses. Since the average church cannot afford to “own the compute” or “own the model,” the speaker argues that the greatest opportunity for pastors to use AI without becoming a commodity is to own the data. Some of the critical issues to discuss internally with church leadership are: Own the Prompts: The question of “who owns the prompts” is becoming more valuable than ever, and pastors should reuse and share them among staff to create efficiency and save time. Build Contextual Equity: Create a knowledge base of best practices around prompts to help onboard new staff and volunteers quickly. Leverage Context: Since “content is no longer the king… context is”, your unique human context with your church is your “superpower” that AI will never have. Focus on the Human Element: AI is designed for “dopamine, not truth” and excels at “sycophancy”. Pastors should prioritize relationships, care, and speaking the “cold hard truth”, actions AI cannot produce. Jason leads the conversation by showing how AI can be used to handle the “grunt work” like administration and research, freeing you to focus on the relationships and community that only humans can provide. This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next. Guest: Jason Morris, thechurch.digital, Director of Equipping & Mobilization Category: AI NEXT

    31 min

  5. MAR 11

    EP 97: Thinking Biblically About AI for Your Church

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 97 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Title: Chad Williams, CEO of FiveQ agency, provides a comprehensive biblical framework for evaluating AI and technology in ministry. Drawing from Scripture, he traces technology through creation, fall, and redemption to help church leaders make wise decisions about emerging tools. In this episode, Chad addresses the questions your congregation is already asking about AI. He explains why technology reflects God’s creative nature, how sin corrupts its purposes, and how redemption transforms even the most dangerous tools for kingdom impact. You’ll learn four practical evaluation questions for any technology decision: • Can I trust the source? • Is it communicating truth or spreading lies? • Does it amplify or replace human work? • Am I creating or just consuming? Chad demonstrates these principles across five ministry contexts: sermon preparation, administrative tasks, discipleship and pastoral care, outreach and communications, and volunteer training. Each example shows the “human sandwich approach” where human judgment bookends AI processing. Whether you’re responding to concerned congregation members or evaluating AI tools for your team, you’ll gain theological grounding and practical wisdom for stewarding technology in ministry. This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next.   Guest: Chad Williams, Five Q, CEO Category: AI NEXT

    36 min

  6. MAR 4

    EP 96: The #1 AI Trend Every Pastor Must Pay Attention To (And Learn In 2026)

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 96 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Title: AI just removed the technology barrier that’s been killing your best ministry ideas. You’ve had this idea for months. A better way to equip parents. A simple volunteer system. A tool that helps your people apply Scripture to daily life. You can see it clearly. You know it would work. But then: “That would cost thousands.” “We’d need a developer.” Another God-given vision shelved. Kenny Jahng shows pastors how churches are using AI to create custom ministry solutions by simply describing what they need. No programming. No developers. No massive budget. Just you, having a conversation with AI—and watching it build exactly what you need. The prayer system your recovery ministry needs. The family discussion tool. The coordination system that fits YOUR church. AI builds it while you focus on ministry. You’ll see concrete examples, get a simple roadmap, and discover how your pastoral instincts guide AI to serve your vision. Use AI to build what your people actually need. You already know what’s needed. Now AI makes it possible. This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next.   Guest: Kenny Jahng, AI NEXT, Director Category: AI NEXT

  7. FEB 25

    EP 95: How to Get Started with Agentic AI for Your Church and Ministry

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 95 Series: Thinking Ahead: Pastors and AI Title: How to Get Started with Agentic AI for Your Church and Ministry Natchi Lazarus breaks down agentic AI in plain language for church leaders who want practical solutions, not complicated tech jargon. Discover how AI agents work 24/7 on your behalf—creating content, posting to social media, and tracking results while you focus on people. You’ll learn the four essential components of AI agent systems, when to use agents versus simple AI tools, and the SONG framework for implementation. Get step-by-step guidance to deploy your first AI agents with no-code tools, understand multi-agent workflows, and set up proper guardrails. Whether you’re tech-savvy or a complete beginner, this episode shows you how to transform AI from a confusing buzzword into a practical tool that multiplies your ministry’s gospel impact without requiring coding skills or technical expertise. This episode is part of the Exponential AI NEXT podcast series. Learn more about how to get up to speed with AI for church at exponential.org/ai-next. Guest: Natchi Lazarus – CC Academy, Founder/CEO Category: AI NEXT

    57 min

  8. FEB 18

    Team Development in a Multiethnic Church Context

    Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 94 Series: Multiplying Healthy Multiethnic Churches Title: Team Development in a Multiethnic Church Context Unity matters in every church: but in a multiethnic church, cultivating a unified staff is both more challenging and more consequential. In this episode, we share transferable truths and practical insights to help leaders build effective, mission-aligned multiethnic teams. Host: Mark DeYmaz – Multiethnic Church NEXT, Director Guests: Nirup Alphonse – LIFEGATE Church, Lead Pastor Lawrence Hicks – Mosaic Church, Executive Pastor Paul Kroger – Vine & Village, Executive Director Category: Multiethnic Church NEXT — Resources mentioned in this episode: Disruption: Repurposing the Church to Redeem the Community

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Welcome to the Exponential NEXT Podcast where ministry and church leaders come together to discuss topics that give you a peek into the future of the church. At Exponential NEXT we focus on discovering what is coming NEXT for the future of the church that can lead to accelerating church multiplication. Join a community of kingdom-minded changemakers exploring innovative models, methods, and approaches for reaching, discipling, and mobilizing people with a strong focus on church planting, together. With new conversations every Wednesday, we will dive into topics we believe will help us all see what’s coming around the corner for the Church. Discover more about Exponential NEXT by visiting us at exponential.org/next.

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    Exponential NEXT
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
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