Find The Outside

Tim Merry & Tuesday Rivera

A lively, off-the-cuff conversation hosted by Tuesday Rivera and Tim Merry on large-scale systems change and equity. Together, Tim and Tuesday are THE OUTSIDE - systems change and equity facilitators who bring the fresh air necessary to organize movements, organizations, and collaborators forward for progress, surfacing new mindsets for greater participation and shared impact. In this podcast, we’ll share our greatest light-bulb moments as we advance our own understanding of this work. We’re doing it live, and inviting you in. Welcome! As Tim says in the first episode: reflection is too important to leave to chance. These conversations give us (and you!) a chance to slow down, catch our breath, and see our space and our work more clearly. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 8.09: Outside Conversations with Zaid Hassan - How to Evolve (and How Not To)

    FEB 24

    8.09: Outside Conversations with Zaid Hassan - How to Evolve (and How Not To)

    What does it really mean to evolve — as individuals, communities, and societies? In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Tim reconnects with longtime collaborator and systems thinker Zaid Hassan to explore his new book, How to Evolve and How Not To. Drawing on 25 years of work tackling complex global challenges - from climate negotiations inside the UN COP process to launching a decentralized global climate initiative during COVID - Zaid reflects on why so many change efforts fail and what real practice actually looks like. Together, Tim and Zaid explore the courage it takes to see reality clearly, the difference between technical fixes and adaptive change, and why agency matters more than ever in a world that can feel overwhelming. At its heart, this episode is about culture as a collection of choices - and what happens when we begin to understand the evolutionary consequences of the decisions we make every day. Zaid will be on a global book tour this fall, including Halifax, Nova Scotia in October. Woo. Woo. Resources:  Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.comFacebook & Instagram: @findtheoutsideLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at hello@findtheoutside.com Meet Zaid Hassanten in tenBook: “The Social Labs Revolution: A New Approach to Solving our Most Complex Challenges,” by Zaid HassanZaid’s New Book: “How to Evolve And How Not To” (Peakrill Press, 2026)Join Zaid on his upcoming book tour!Read articles from Zaid on Substack Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    50 min
  2. 8.08: This Reality, That Reality, and the One We Choose to Live In

    FEB 10

    8.08: This Reality, That Reality, and the One We Choose to Live In

    On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on two recent conversations with Meg Buzzi and Chris Keevil and follow the threads that emerged long after the recording stopped. What unfolds is a wide-ranging, deeply human dialogue about courage, leadership, imagination, and how we decide what really matters in turbulent times. They explore the tension between reflection and action, the false choice between staying informed and staying well, and what it means to make a “true move” when certainty is impossible. Along the way, they consider the role of escapism, joy, embodiment, and imagination - not as avoidance, but as essential capacities for resilience, empathy, and meaningful action. This episode is an invitation to question whose reality we are centering, to resist being hijacked by fear or outrage, and to remember that tending to what gives life and meaning is not separate from changing the world - it’s foundational to it. RESOURCES: Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.comFacebook & Instagram: @findtheoutsideLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at hello@findtheoutside.com Meet Meg BuzziRead Meg’s new book, “The In-Between”Learn about Meg’s company - fixchr Meet Chris KeevilCanoe Kayak CanadaDee Hock, Chaordic OrganizationsSandpiper Ventures Oliver Burkeman – Author of Four Thousand WeeksArawana Hayashi, Founder of Social Presencing TheaterDr. Martin Shaw, Mythologist and StorytellerLucas Jones, Author of I Still Believe in Miracles Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    39 min
  3. 8.07: Outside Conversations withMeg Buzzi - Goosebumps & Wakefulness: Collective Power in Uncertain Times

    JAN 27

    8.07: Outside Conversations withMeg Buzzi - Goosebumps & Wakefulness: Collective Power in Uncertain Times

    What gives you goosebumps when the world feels uncertain? On today’s episode, Tuesday and Tim welcome back Meg Buzzi for a wide-ranging conversation about wakefulness, collective power, and staying engaged in times of rapid change. From large volunteer-run movements to housing co-ops and political organizing, the conversation explores how participation, urgency, and agency come together at scale. The trio reflects on moments that spark goosebumps: communities turning toward one another, joy as a form of resistance, and collective imagination as a way to rehearse more just futures. Along the way, they touch on belonging to land, diaspora, leadership, and why enthusiasm and presence may be some of the most powerful forces we have right now. This episode is an invitation to notice what makes you feel alive - and to trust that those moments matter. RESOURCES: Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.com Facebook & Instagram: @findtheoutside  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at hello@findtheoutside.com Meet Meg Buzzi Read Meg’s new book, “The In-Between”Learn about Meg’s company - fixchr LoomioEsther PerelNeil deGrasse Tyson’s CosmosVáclav Havel – “The power of the powerless” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    57 min
  4. 8.05: Masculinity, Meaning, and the Mess We're In

    12/02/2025

    8.05: Masculinity, Meaning, and the Mess We're In

    In this episode, Tim and Tuesday dig into masculinity, leadership, and the cultural fallout of bullying and toxic masculine norms. They unpack why authoritarian leadership models are gaining traction, how fear and division shape today’s politics, and why our individual choices in community engagement matter more than ever. The conversation moves through political discontent, the citizen–state relationship, and what people look for in leaders during times of crisis. Tim and Tuesday also examine the rise of the Manosphere, the search for purpose and belonging among young men, and how those needs can fuel harmful identities. They close with lessons from history and the power of reconnecting with ancestral stories as a guide through modern challenges. Resources: Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.comFacebook & Instagram: @findtheoutsideLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at hello@findtheoutside.comWatch Tuesday’s podcast with her husband, Gibrán Rivera: Episode 1.4 - “Reclaiming The Divine Masculine”BBC Documentary: “Men of the Manosphere,” by James BlakeBBC Documentary: “Empire with David Olusoga"Song: “Thatcher F****d The Kids,” by Frank TurnerCheck out The Outside’s online course: Berkana Two Loops of Systems ChangeTim & Tuesday also offer keynotes on the Two Loops - contact us to learn more!Dr. Martin Shaw - “What gets exiled, comes back hostile.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min
5
out of 5
20 Ratings

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A lively, off-the-cuff conversation hosted by Tuesday Rivera and Tim Merry on large-scale systems change and equity. Together, Tim and Tuesday are THE OUTSIDE - systems change and equity facilitators who bring the fresh air necessary to organize movements, organizations, and collaborators forward for progress, surfacing new mindsets for greater participation and shared impact. In this podcast, we’ll share our greatest light-bulb moments as we advance our own understanding of this work. We’re doing it live, and inviting you in. Welcome! As Tim says in the first episode: reflection is too important to leave to chance. These conversations give us (and you!) a chance to slow down, catch our breath, and see our space and our work more clearly. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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