Born In June Raised In April: What Adoption Can Teach the World

April Dinwoodie
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Nationally recognized thought leader, April Dinwoodie, hosts a personal journey while exploring her adoption experience. We follow her as she examines her efforts to find love, identity, family, and connection. Each month April will candidly interview, discuss, and unravel, all matters surrounding adoption.

  1. May 24

    Adopting Privilege, Shifting the Narrative, and the Power of Truth with Dr. Abby Hasberry

    What happens when the origin stories we are told growing up turn out to be folklore? In this powerful and deeply intimate conversation, host April Dinwoodie sits down with therapist, researcher, and author Dr. Abby Hasberry to unpack the layers of transracial adoption, identity, and the systemic complexities of the adoption constellation. Dr. Hasberry shares the vulnerable reality of discovering her true origin story later in life, navigating the unique space of being both an adopted person and a mother who relinquished a child as a teenager, and how these intersecting worlds informed her groundbreaking book, Adopting Privilege. Together, April and Dr. Hasberry dive into the concept of "identity preassignment," the profound impact of naming, and why moving away from transactional child welfare toward transformational, truth-centered love is essential for true healing. Updated Show Notes & Resources Key Takeaways From This Episode Folklore vs. Truth: The danger of fabricated adoption narratives and why anything less than the radical truth compromises the foundation of love. Identity Preassignment: How societal narratives can pre-program adopted individuals to assume specific roles within the adoption constellation before they even realize it. The Nuance of Privilege: Navigating the complex intersection of white adjacency, systemic barriers, and the lack of basic identity privileges (like access to original birth certificates). Reclaiming Space: Reclaiming personal geography, original naming legacies, and the importance of centering your own story. Resources & Links Mentioned Read the Book: Adopting Privilege by Dr. Abby Hasberry — Explore Dr. Hasberry's beautifully structured work on intersectionality, family legacy, and personal affirmations. - https://adoptingprivilege.com/about-dr-abby-hasberry Historical Context: National Association of Black Social Workers (NABSW) — Reference to the pivotal 1972 stance on transracial adoption and identity development. - https://www.nabsw.org/sites/default/files/2024-08/NABSW_Trans-Racial_Adoption_1972_Position_%28b%29.pdf Connect with the Host: Learn more about April's ongoing consulting, advocacy work, and initiatives via JuneinApril.com. - http://JuneinApril.com More About Dr. Abby Hasberry Dr. Abby Hasberry is a therapist, researcher, educator, and author who specializes in working with adopted persons and relinquishing mothers. After a successful career as a founding school principal, she returned to clinical and academic spaces to fill critical gaps in adoption-competent therapy for Black women. She is currently conducting research on adopted persons who have relinquished children and is developing an upcoming docuseries centering the lived experiences of the adoption constellation.

    54 min

  2. Apr 22

    April Showers, May Flowers, and the Adoption Rain Wall (with Bryan Post)

    In this special April 2026 episode, host April Dinwoodie leans into the deep symbolism of her namesake month. While society often encourages adopted individuals and families to skip straight to the "flowers"—the sunshine, the gratitude, and the "happily ever after"—April and her dear friend, trauma expert Bryan Post, argue that you cannot have growth without the rain. They deconstruct the "April Showers" of the adoption experience: the grief, the loss, and the emotional releases that are often dismissed as "dramatic" but are actually vital for wholeness. Bryan shares insights on how suppressed grief is simply energy in motion that requires a safe place to land. Together, they explore: The Rain Wall: A profound analogy for consciously walking into the "showers" of truth to reach authentic healing. Parental Grief Suppression: How a parent's own unexamined history can create an unconscious block when supporting a child's emotions. Estrangement Prevention: Why doing the "heavy lifting" of emotional work now is the key to building a legacy of connection that lasts well into adulthood. Don't miss the conclusion, where April discusses the practical urgency of aligning our names and legal identities in today's civic and political climate. Resources & Links Learn more about Bryan Post's work: Visit the Post Institute for resources on the Stress Model and trauma-informed parenting. Listen to Bryan's first appearance on this show: June 2019 Episode. Together on the Journey Family Camp (TRJ) 2026: Join April and Bryan in person this summer for a transformative family experience! Dates: August 1st – 4th, 2026 Location: Ohio University, Athens, OH Register Here: togetheronthejourney.org (Spots are filling fast!) Connect with April Dinwoodie: Website: juneinapril.com YouTube: @AprilDinwoodie Instagram/Facebook: @JuneInApril

    40 min

  3. Mar 13

    Exploring the Complexities of Adoption: Luck, Lore, and Pop Culture with Sullivan Summer

    In this deep-dive conversation, April Dinwoodie sits down with Sullivan Summer, an independent scholar, poet, and adoptee rights advocate, to unpack the layers of the adoption experience. From the "luck" narrative to the realities of transracial adoption, they explore how media and pop culture shape our understanding of family. Sullivan shares her work with Adoptees for Family Preservation and her own podcast, Adoption Pop!, highlighting why disrupting traditional narratives is essential for authentic storytelling and systemic change. Key Takeaways The "Luck" Complex: Why the concept of being "lucky" in adoption is a double-edged sword that often obscures the loss inherent in the experience. Media & Representation: How pop culture frequently misrepresents adoption, and how we can use those same tools to reclaim the narrative. Transracial Dynamics: Navigating the intersection of race, privilege, and marginalization within adoptive families. The Power of Community: Why adoptee-centered spaces are vital for support and advocacy. The Business of Adoption: Understanding adoption as a $25 billion industry and the implications for family preservation. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Community Connection 01:09 Exploring the Myth of "Luck" in Adoption 09:14 The Realities of Transracial Adoption 20:10 Misconceptions and Media Representation 37:30 Introducing the Adoption Pop! Podcast 49:05 Authenticity and Vulnerability in Storytelling 58:31 Closing Lessons: The Importance of Listening About the Guest Sullivan Summer is a domestic, transracial adoptee and a leading voice in adoptee rights advocacy. She is an independent scholar, critic, essayist, and poet whose work has been featured in various literary and academic outlets. Sullivan serves as the President of Adoptees for Family Preservation, a nonprofit dedicated to adoptee-centered storytelling, and hosts the Adoption Pop! podcast. Her 2025 chapbook, Performance Anxiety, was published by Black Sunflowers Poetry Press. Connect with Sullivan: Website: sullivansummer.com Instagram: @thesullivansummer | @adoptionpoppodcast Substack: Sullivan Summer on Substack Podcast: Adoption Pop! Nonprofit: Adoptees for Family Preservation Podcast Credits Produced by: April Dinwoodie & Kyle Ferreira Engineered and Edited by: Kyle Ferreira Theme Music: Kevin Lowther (aka Big Lux)

    1h 3m

  4. Feb 25

    How to Love a Transracially Adopted Person – Part 10: Loving Protection

    In this powerful tenth installment of How to Love a Transracially Adopted Person, host April Dinwoodie marks ten years of writing at the intersection of Valentine's Day and Black History Month with a clear and urgent message: love without protection is no longer enough. What began as a reflection on romantic love and adoption has evolved into something deeper — a reckoning with identity, loss, belonging, race, safety, and responsibility. In this episode of Born in June, Raised in April, April examines the incomplete love narrative often attached to adoption and challenges the cultural myth that adoption is a simple, tidy love story. Drawing from her lived experience as a Black woman raised in a white family, she explores how love without truth creates fragility — and how love without protection creates harm. April shares personal reflections on growing up deeply loved, yet not always protected from racial harm. She unpacks the emotional tension between gratitude and grief, belonging and rupture, and calls parents, professionals, and institutions into a more courageous understanding of what real love requires. This episode is both personal and universal — a call-in to anyone who claims to love Black and Brown people, especially Black and Brown children. Because in this moment, protection is not optional. It is the measure of love. Keywords adoption, transracial adoption, protective love, identity, race, belonging, grief, Black identity, family dynamics, racial justice, advocacy, parenting, adoption narrative, loss, responsibility Takeaways Adoption is not a simple love story — it is a complex human story that requires truth. Gratitude and grief can coexist from the very beginning of an adopted person's life. Silence in the face of racial harm is not neutral. Loving a Black or Brown child requires racial awareness and active protection. Protective love requires courage, advocacy, and structural accountability. Love that avoids truth is fragile; love that refuses protection is incomplete. Sound Bites "Love without protection is no longer enough." "Silence is not neutral to a Black child." "Exceptional love is not safe." "Survival skills are not the same as protection." "Protection is not a statement. It is structure." Chapters 00:00 Ten Years at the Intersection 03:40 The Incomplete Love Narrative of Adoption 12:15 Gratitude, Grief, and the Both/And 18:30 When Love Isn't Connected to Protection 25:10 The Responsibility of Transracial Adoption 32:45 Protection as the Measure of Love 36:50 A Call-In to Parents, Leaders, and Institutions

    19 min

  5. Jan 20

    Running Towards the Burning Building: 10 Years of Adoption Insight

    In this episode of "Born in June, Raised in April," host April Dinwoodie reflects on the journey of the podcast as it celebrates its 10th season. Joined by executive producer Kyle Ferreira, they discuss the significance of the conversations held over the years, particularly those with April's parents, which have profoundly shaped her understanding of adoption and identity. April emphasizes the importance of having difficult conversations about adoption, grief, and family dynamics, highlighting how these discussions can foster deeper connections and understanding among families. The episode also touches on the unique framework of using the calendar as a tool for exploring adoption-related themes, allowing for a structured approach to discussing complex emotions and experiences.   Keywords: adoption, identity, family, podcast, conversations, grief, family dynamics, communication, personal journey, calendar framework Takeaways: Conversations with my parents have been transformational. It's important to communicate experiences of adoption and family separation. Adoptive families can relate to feelings of being 'othered' in their own lives. The calendar serves as a universal framework for discussing adoption. Both joy and grief can coexist in adoption celebrations. Sound bites: "Conversations with my parents have been transformational." "It's about integrity in a way." "Sometimes you have to run towards the burning building." Chapters 00:00 Celebrating 10 Years of the Podcast 02:01 Transformational Conversations with Family 12:40 The Calendar as a Framework for Adoption 18:34 Navigating Joy and Grief in Adoption 22:10 What Adoption Can Teach the World   Calendar Conversations Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/calendar-conversations-a-guide-for-adoptive-parents/id1728489802   Together on the Journey https://www.transracialjourneys.org/family-camp/

    29 min

  6. 12/17/2025

    Reimagining Traditions: Adoption, Identity & Belonging with Dr. Anthony Hynes

    In this heartfelt conversation, host April Dinwoodie invites Dr. Anthony Hynes to explore what it means to break and remake traditions through the lens of adoption. Dr. Hynes reflects on childhood memories, evolving holiday practices, and the emotional complexity that often surfaces for adopted persons during the holiday season. He also shares insights from his work with children and families, emerging trends in the adoption and child-welfare landscape, and his experience in community at Together on the Journey Family Camp. A grounded and intimate look at how traditions shape identity—and how we can recreate them with honesty, intention, and care.

    53 min

  7. 12/01/2025

    Setting Our Holiday and Community Tables with Melissa Guida-Richards

    In this November episode of Born in June, Raised in April: What Adoption Can Teach the World, April sits down with author, educator, and Late Discovery adopted person Melissa Guida-Richards (@adopteethoughts) for a grounding, honest, and deeply human conversation. Fresh off co-hosting the Adoption Changemakers Conference, Melissa returns to reflect on the joys, challenges, and lessons learned from creating space within the adoption community—an effort that is meaningful, but not always easy. As we close out National Adoption Awareness Month and move into a holiday season filled with memory, meaning, and complexity, April and Melissa explore: The holiday tables Melissa grew up around as a Late Discovery adopted person How those tables have evolved as she parents her own children What it takes to intentionally set a holiday table that honors truth, identity, and connection How we build community tables rooted in compassion, honesty, and inclusion Why making space in community is vital—and why it can stretch us This episode is an invitation to think about the tables you're setting this season—literal and figurative—and how to make room for the fullness of your reality.

    43 min

  8. 10/22/2025

    Behind the Mask: Belonging, Identity, and Community with Melissa Guida-Richards

    This October, we're going Behind the Mask — looking at what we hide, what we reveal, and how adopted people learn to show up as their full selves. April sits down with Melissa Guida-Richards — adopted person, author, and creator of the Adoption Changemakers Conference — to talk about authenticity, culture, and the importance of real connection in the adoption community. Together, they explore what it means to unmask, how to hold space for nuance, and where joy and healing live in this work. Follow Melissa Guida-Richards on social media @adoptee_thoughts and visit adoptee-thoughts.com for details about the Adoption Changemakers Conference. Follow April Dinwoodie on Instagram, Facebook, and X (Twitter) @JuneInApril, on YouTube @AprilDinwoodie, and visit JuneInApril.com to keep the conversation going.

    29 min
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Nationally recognized thought leader, April Dinwoodie, hosts a personal journey while exploring her adoption experience. We follow her as she examines her efforts to find love, identity, family, and connection. Each month April will candidly interview, discuss, and unravel, all matters surrounding adoption.

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