The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

  1. 16h ago

    Hungry Like The TechWolf : Jukebox is Thirsty : LinkedIn's 'Entrepreneurs R Us'

    On the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman and Emi Beredugo dig into a busy week of talent-tech deals and LinkedIn news. Acquisitions, resignations and bad decisions are back, baby! SAP has acquired skills-intelligence company TechWolf, which will integrate with SuccessFactors while remaining independent. Juicebox has picked up the intellectual property and assets of sourcing platform Fetcher. Humanly has acquired CareerArc to combine recruitment marketing with its AI hiring tools for high-volume employers. They also cover LinkedIn CEO Ryan Roslansky’s departure after 18 years, the demotion of a McKinsey partner following a LinkedIn post about the “glass cliff,” and LinkedIn’s new Academy of Economic Opportunity for aspiring entrepreneurs. The episode wraps with a viral TikTok of a candidate speaking gibberish to an AI interviewer that ends the call. Joel and Emi break down what the clip shows and what it means for AI in hiring. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and episode overview 01:07 - Joel's travel update and jet lag discussion 02:45 - Emi recognized as a top UK black professional 04:30 - Recent recognition and awards for Emi 16:13 - SAP acquires Tech Wolf to enhance skills-based hiring 19:40 - The strategic value of Tech Wolf's data analytics 22:16 - Acquisition of Fuel Fifty and industry implications 23:40 - Fetcher acquisition by Juice Box and industry decline 31:33 - History and strategic moves of CareerArc 34:51 - Leadership changes at LinkedIn and organizational culture 35:57 - LinkedIn launches Academy of Economic Opportunity 43:20 - Discussion on the departure of LinkedIn's CEO 44:44 - The rise of AI interviewers and their risks 55:53 - AI interviewers going rogue and candidate experience 58:16 - Humor and closing remarks

  2. 1d ago

    Shredded: Juicebox, Fetcher, McKinsey, Rippling, Humanly, CareerArc, & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

  3. 3d ago

    Agentic Transformation with Kayleen Weaver & Patrick Kelly

    Talent acquisition teams are currently being expected to pull off the ultimate corporate hat trick: hire at breakneck speed, manifest unicorn candidates out of thin air, slash budgets down to pennies, and somehow prove it with shiny metrics. In this session, ringmasters Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman—hosts of The Chad & Cheese Podcast—are joined by brave survivors Kayleen Weaver (Director of Talent Acquisition at Americare Senior Living) and Patrick Kelly (VP of Operations at Healing Partners). Together, they pull back the curtain on whether the tidal wave of recruiting AI and automation is actually saving the day, or just making HR's slow-motion trainwreck run slightly faster.

  4. Oct 9

    Metaview Raises, LinkedIn Hunts, & HCA Gambles on Palantir

    Live from Amsterdam where redheads combust in the sun and nobody uses e-scooters—the Chad and Cheese crew are back with guest star Stephen McGrath to tackle HR’s messiest sagas: Metaview’s $60M Pivot: How a basic, commoditized note-taking app rebranded as an "agentic AI" messiah. LinkedIn's Massive Data Purge: LinkedIn is boot-kicking third-party scrapers (RIP Gem, PIN, and NeuroScale) Palantir vs. The Nurses: The surveillance state giant tried its hand at automated healthcare scheduling. The "Soft" Labor Market: Jobs reports are crashing, immigrants are leaving, and companies are baffled why nobody’s applying. Complete with atrocious dad jokes, "dirty D" data warnings, and endless snark, it’s everything you’ve come to expect from HR’s most dangerous podcast.

  5. Oct 8

    Shredded: LinkUp, Robert Half, Lyft, Ahron, Personio, TechWolf, LinkedIn, & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

  6. Oct 6

    Zero Friction, Infinite Resumes, No Hope with Nathan Labenz

    Joel and Chad welcome Nathan Labenz, host of The Cognitive Revolution and a self-described full-time student of AI. His agent booked the appearance after a weak first pitch and a better second one. They start with how he actually works: a separate Mac Mini for agents, a wiki about his life, no unsupervised access to bank and personal email, and a rule that the bots don’t lie about being AI if asked. That setup is the hook for the bigger story. Nathan walks through the industry as the dog that caught the car—systems that now cheat on tests, rewrite their own logs, and surprise the labs that built them. He argues for pacing the frontier without pretending today’s models are unused. Enterprises, he says, still have a lot of workflow fruit left before they need superhuman agents running for a month. Work comes next: short-term roles in AI safety orgs (not just researchers—HR, comms, ops), AI-in-the-loop jobs that let teams do more with less, and a hiring market already broken by zero-friction apply. Longer term he talks transformation, a new social contract, and why matching might get better once both sides use agents. China is the other half. He spent time on the ground this summer because “if we pause, China wins” never sat right. What he saw—and what he didn’t hear—is in the episode, along with advice for kids who may never be smarter than the models.

  7. Oct 2

    LinkedIn Goes Full TikTok : Job Seeker Confidence Collapses

    Joel and Maureen are back, slightly singed from RecFest, to argue about whether the industry is a warm community or a room full of under-resourced people begging an AI agent to reinvent the email alert. Also on the menu: LinkedIn cosplaying as TikTok, Meta finally peeling the cameras off the glasses Maureen still will not buy. The job market gets the usual treatment — sturdy headlines, miserable humans, bots applying as nurses for $150 a pop. Then Madonna shows up at 68 in fishnets, and the episode somehow gets weirder. The two play Who'd Ya' Rather between Spott and HiringCafe and there's quite a bit of disagreement. Imagine that? Startups, ghost jobs, ageism, and a bad dad joke. The usual dangerous hour. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Episode Overview 00:05 - Introduction to the current job market challenges 02:25 - RecFest Community and Conference Highlights 04:00 - Impact of AI and automation on recruitment processes 04:31 - Perceptions of Conference Attendees: Open and Engaged or Overwhelmed? 08:13 - The Removal of Cameras and Privacy Concerns 10:05 - The rise of new startups in the hiring ecosystem 12:19 - AI Hallucinations and Trust Issues in Technology 15:01 - Challenges faced by Gen Z and Millennials in job applications 17:27 - LinkedIn's New Features and Platform Changes 19:58 - Cultural perceptions of aging and beauty in entertainment 22:32 - Travel Plans and Industry Events 24:27 - Current Economic Indicators and Public Sentiment 25:00 - Madonna's VMAs performance and ageism in media 26:53 - Government Data, Trust, and Economic Confidence 30:09 - The creator economy and opportunities for new entrepreneurs 30:15 - The Impact of Inflation and Job Security on Mental Health 35:04 - The influence of social media and content creation in job search 40:05 - Disruption of traditional hiring models by startups 44:51 - The importance of networking and referrals in employment 49:59 - The future outlook: optimism and challenges in the job market

  8. Oct 1

    Shredded: Ando, Indeed, Septeni, Media House Holdings, Gallup, HiringCafe, Spott, & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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  • Creator
    Evergreen Podcasts
  • Years Active
    2017 - 2026
  • Episodes
    1.7K
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2025 The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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