Better Learning Podcast

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The Better Learning Podcast combines education and entertainment in a fresh, engaging format where guests share their favorite school-related movies. Host Kevin Stoller leads dynamic conversations, exploring memorable scenes, iconic characters, and timeless lessons through award-style categories like "The John Keating Award" for standout teachers and "Realistic or Ridiculous?" to dissect school life portrayals. With humor, analysis, and reflection, each episode celebrates the fun, flaws, and impact of these films while sparking nostalgia and insights. Whether you're an educator, student, or movie buff, join us to relive the movies that shaped how we see school life, and share your favorites at betterlearningpodcast.com. The Better Learning Podcast is hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve and author of Creating Better Learning Environments. The podcast is also associated with other organizations that are focused on improving education including the Education Leaders' Organization (ELO) and the Second Class Foundation.

  1. 3d ago ·  Video

    Designing a Second Home for Students with Learning Differences with Shara Bumgarner & Janann Pittman

    In this episode, host Matt Rogers and co-host Dr. Brian McCraw talk with Shara Bumgarner, cofounder of Houston's Joy School, and architect Janann Pittman of Jackson & Ryan Architects about creating a K-8 school built for kids with learning differences. From the school's humble start with four students in 1997 to its thoughtfully designed campus today, Shara and Janann unpack how intentional design - down to door handles and bathroom stalls - can turn a school into a true second home. They dig into individualized instruction, the "it depends" philosophy, and why joy, not just remediation, should be at the heart of every learning space. Takeaways: No one-size-fits-all - Kids are grouped by specific learning needs, not grade level or diagnosis. Design follows philosophy - Spaces are built around flexibility and the school's culture, not just function. Details matter - Even door handles and toilet flushes were chosen to ease student anxiety. Safety enables learning - An anxious brain can't learn, so comfort comes first for kids and parents alike. Joy beats survival - Disco balls and dance parties aren't extras - they're core to helping kids truly thrive.   About Shara Bumgarner: Shara Bumgarner co-founded The Joy School in 1997 and has been our Head of School since 2002. Shara's inspiration for starting The Joy School stemmed from witnessing bright students with learning differences and disabilities slip through the cracks in public school because of a lack of understanding of such students. Shara is committed to providing the most optimal, joyful environment for students and teachers with an emphasis on embracing individual differences. Starting The Joy School changed her life as an educator, and she hopes to have that same impact on each student, parent and teacher at the School. Outside of school, Shara focuses on her family, which includes her supportive husband and three daughters. Link to Shara's LinkedIn account - Link Link to The Joy School Website - Link   About Janann Pittman, AIA: For over 35 years, since her first K-12 and higher education projects, Janann has been passionate about institutional and educational architecture that reinforces and expands communities, and impacts children of all ages. As a Principal with Jackson & Ryan Architects, Janann is licensed in multiple states, with education projects from Pennsylvania to Texas. Janann seeks to understand her unique clients and their communities, so her designs reflect them and serve them in highly personal ways.  Janann comes from a family of educators and has served on numerous PTO boards and committees for her sons' schools, on the Rice University Alumni Board, and was a founding board member of Books Between Kids.  While Janann loved her time at Rice University, she is most enthusiastic about her middle school years at Shoreham-Wading River Middle School. Named a Blue Ribbon School the first year the award was given, Janann loved the fabulous arts and community service programs, and the focus on interdisciplinary projects, in smaller neighborhood communities. And, the amazing school even had goats! Link to Janann's LinkedIn account - Link Link to Education portion of JRA web site  Link to JRA education web page Link to Jackson & Ryan Architects Education brochure Link to Design for Education brochure   Episode 345 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  2. Jul 22

    Learning by Region at A4LE Georgia

    In this episode, host Katie Jubenville brings listeners conversations from the A4LE Georgia Chapter Conference on Jekyll Island. Guests explore what "Radically Student Centered™" design truly means, the everyday details students notice that adults overlook, partnerships between design firms and educators, and creative problem-solving during construction — plus some fun local picks for how they'd spend a day on Jekyll Island. Our guests, in order of appearnace: Namrata Dani, AIA: Corgan Architect https://www.linkedin.com/in/namratadani/ Jill Hackett: Turner & Townsend Heery Director https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillwofford/ Jesse Frasier: Turner & Townsend Heery Vice President https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessefrasier/ Carissa Shrock Oyedele, AIA, NCIDQ, LEED AP BDC: Corgan Associate Principal, Senior Project Manager & Architect https://www.linkedin.com/in/carissa-shrock-oyedele-aia-ncidq-leed-ap-bdc-566a3685/ Heli Shah: CDH Partners, Inc. Project Director https://www.linkedin.com/in/helishah/ Jamie B. Case: CDH Partners, Inc. Principal (Jamie) & Project Director (Heli) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-b-case-5a640012/ Dawn Hill: Elbert County School District Special Education Administrative Assistant   Episode 344 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  3. Jul 22

    Learning by Region at A4LE Northeast

    This episode comes from the A4LE Northeast Regional Conference in Rochester, New York, hosted by Jessica Westerduin. Guests discuss indicators of a successful school building, what it would mean to walk into their designs 20 years from now, the value of stakeholder collaboration, the role of flexible furniture and adaptability, and the challenges school leaders face guiding their communities through transitions and long-term visioning.   Our special guests, in order of appearance: Lemuer Perez M.A. ED.: University Academy Charter High School Educational Consultant https://www.linkedin.com/in/lemuer-perez-m-a-ed-752854145/ Matthew Gallerani, AIA: GWWO Architects Architect https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-gallerani-aia-1ba88431/ Julie Spence, AIA, ALEP: Lavallee Brensinger Architects Educational Planner https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-spence-aia-alep-a706588/ Elizabeth Geldres AIA, PMP, LEED AP, NOMA: Stantec Architect, Senior Project Manager, and K-12 Studio Leader https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-geldres/ Jeremy Dwyer, AIA: CannonDesign Vice President https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-dwyer-aia-8ab0948/ Emily Czarnecki: JCJ Architecture Design Principal https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-czarnecki-a9863212/ Jennifer Grafton, AIA, ALEP & Melissa Martin: SCHRADERGROUP (Jennifer) & New Holland Elementary School (Melissa) PA PK-12 Market Segment Leader (Jennifer) & Principal (Melissa) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifergrafton/   Episode 343 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  4. Jul 22

    Learning by Region at A4LE Midwest Great Lakes

    This episode, hosted by Matt Rogers and Katie Jubenville, features conversations from the A4LE Midwest Great Lakes Regional Conference in St. Louis. Guests compare favorite landmarks to the Gateway Arch, then dig into what "radically student-centered" design means, sharing stories about maximizing impact beyond simple building replacement, engaging students and communities in the design process, and what separates schools that merely function from those that truly transform their communities. Our guests, in order of appearance: Josh Chism, PE, CEM: Capital AE President https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshchism/ Nicole Esser Dryden: Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP Senior Associate https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-esser/ Philip Riedel, AIA: NAC Architecture Principal, PK-12 Sector Leader https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-riedel-aia-a72b3522/ Brad Erwin: Paragon Architecture President https://www.linkedin.com/in/braderwin/ Jeff Vandel: North Kansas City Schools Executive Director of Facilities https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-vandel-8b8a1ab/ Roger Bearup: Grandville Public Schools Superintendent https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-bearup-1432b8112/ Nicholas Kent: Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP Partner  https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-kent-a3604211/ Dr. Stephanie Loane: CSO Architects Senior Associate Brenton C. Hite, AIA: CSO Architects Principal (Brenton) & Senior Associate (Stephanie) https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenton-c-hite-aia-70704838/   Episode 342 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  5. Jul 22

    Learning by Region at A4LE Southern

    This episode features conversations recorded at the A4LE Southern Regional Conference in Austin, Texas, hosted by Dr. Brian McCraw and Nick Marmolejo. Guests dig into themes like community-driven design processes, trauma-informed design, furniture and flexible learning spaces, the overuse of "learning stairs," strong architect-educator partnerships, and what truly makes a school thrive versus merely function.   Our guests, in order of appearance: Jody Sergi, AIA, LEED AP: Kirksey Architecture Partner and Director, PK-12 Practice https://www.linkedin.com/in/jody-sergi-aia-leed-ap-0005a53/ Cody Boyd, AIA: PBK Senior Principal https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-boyd-aia-98368a35/ Olivia Graf: Architecture for Education Partner / Design Principal https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-graf-7a0a8065/ Katie Becker: JLG Architects Architect and K12 Planner https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebecker1/ Gary Armbruster, FAIA, ALEP: MA+ Architecture, L.L.C. Owner https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-armbruster-aia-alep/ Easy Foster, RTSBA, FAIC, CPC, LEED AP: Conroe Independent School District Executive Director Planning & Construction https://www.linkedin.com/in/easyfoster/ Brad Hunt: JLG Architects K–12 Strategy & Partnerships https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-hunt-b14264286/ Sloan McLain: Austin Independent School District Administrative Supervisor of Learning Space Integration https://www.linkedin.com/in/sloan-mclain-25a26b21/   Episode 341 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  6. Jul 22

    Learning by Region at A4LE Southeast

    This episode, hosted by Katie Jubenville, takes listeners on the road to the A4LE Southeast Regional Conference, featuring conversations with architects, educators, and facility planners about creating better learning environments. Guests discuss what it means to be "radically student-centered," the messages school buildings send to students and teachers, exciting trends in school design, and how to elevate teacher practice and gauge whether a school is thriving. Our guests, in order of appearance: Paulette Myers: McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture Architect https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-myers/ Matthew Pierzchala, AIA, NCARB, ALEP, WELL AP: Larson Design Group Client Leader | Senior Architect | Education Planner https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-pierzchala-aia-ncarb-alep-well-ap-8976311a/ Dr. Burke Royster: Greenville County Schools Superintendent https://www.linkedin.com/in/burke-royster-b9436b56/ Robert Oetting: Beaufort County School District Chief Operations Officer https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-oetting-a9742514/ Sophia Tarkhan AIA, NOMA, LEED AP, Fitwel Ambassador & Kate Edwards, AIA, NCARB: Cooper Carry Project Architects https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophia-tarkhan-aia-noma-leed-ap-fitwel-ambassador-64792a12/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-edwards-aia-ncarb-937a167/ Joseph Campbell, MS: Charleston County School District Construction Procurement Supervisor https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-campbell-ms-741b61b8/ Aimee Eckmann, FAIA: Perkins&Will Firmwide K-12 Practice Leader https://www.linkedin.com/in/aimee-eckmann-faia-269a584/   Episode 340 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  7. Jul 15 ·  Video

    AI, Agency & the Future of Education with Dr. Sabba Quidwai

    In this episode, Dr. Sabba Quidwai, CEO of Designing Schools, joins the Better Learning Podcast to explore how educators, students, and communities can navigate AI with hope instead of fear. Drawing on her own path from history teacher to Apple to education consultant, she shares how districts like Roseville Joint Union High School District are bringing students, staff, and community members together to co-design AI-era graduate profiles — and why courageous leadership, shared culture, and storytelling matter more than any specific technology. Takeaways: Hope is a teachable skill, not just a feeling — and it's the root of agency. Design with people, not for them — Roseville built a graduate profile in just three sessions by including students, staff, and community. Culture and story precede innovation — courageous leadership matters more than any specific tool. Students need shared context, not just a voice, or they'll default to asking for rigid rules. Local business partnerships make AI literacy real and practical without big budgets. About Dr. Sabba Quidwai:     Episode 339 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

  8. Jul 8 ·  Video

    Designing Schools Kids Are Proud Of with Amanda Vottis

    In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Jessica Westerduin talks with Amanda Vottis, an architectural designer at Mosaic Architects with over 12 years of experience in K-12 educational design. Amanda shares her winding path into school architecture, her philosophy of "radically student-centered" design, and a deep dive into the multi-year Saratoga Springs School District project — a "legacy" renovation initiative built on an educational plan shaped by community input, teacher feedback, and student voice. The conversation explores how thoughtful design (learning stairs, breakout spaces, informal student areas) can transform how kids feel about school, and why understanding student behavior and needs matters more than just filling classroom walls. Takeaways: Design starts with people, not walls. Instead of asking "what does this classroom need," Amanda asks "what do your students need to be successful" — shifting conversations from storage and outlets to real student experience. Community alignment sustains long-term projects. Saratoga Springs' educational plan, built through summits, surveys, and teacher/student input, has guided nearly a decade of phased renovations back to a shared vision. Dream big before scaling back. Exposing districts to ambitious ideas (like learning stairs and dedicated informal spaces) helps them aim higher instead of defaulting to "practical" but uninspired designs. Every student learns differently — design should reflect that. Just as teachers and coaches adapt to different learning styles, school spaces need variety to support how each student thrives. Ownership and pride change student behavior. When students feel a space belongs to them, they take care of it and use it — evidenced by the pride shown in Saratoga's new fitness center and cafeteria. About Amanda Vottis: Amanda is an Architectural Designer and Accredited Learning Environment Planner with Mosaic Associates Architects. With over a decade of experience, Amanda specializes in designing innovative learning environments for K-12 public schools, colleges, and universities in New York. Collaborating with clients from initial project conception through completion of construction, Amanda enjoys helping clients design projects that align with their unique educational goals and community needs. Amanda volunteers for the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) New York Chapter Board, serving as past President, and co-captain for Mosaic's CANstruction team.   Episode 338 of the Better Learning Podcast For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website

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The Better Learning Podcast combines education and entertainment in a fresh, engaging format where guests share their favorite school-related movies. Host Kevin Stoller leads dynamic conversations, exploring memorable scenes, iconic characters, and timeless lessons through award-style categories like "The John Keating Award" for standout teachers and "Realistic or Ridiculous?" to dissect school life portrayals. With humor, analysis, and reflection, each episode celebrates the fun, flaws, and impact of these films while sparking nostalgia and insights. Whether you're an educator, student, or movie buff, join us to relive the movies that shaped how we see school life, and share your favorites at betterlearningpodcast.com. The Better Learning Podcast is hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve and author of Creating Better Learning Environments. The podcast is also associated with other organizations that are focused on improving education including the Education Leaders' Organization (ELO) and the Second Class Foundation.

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  • Creator
    Kay-Twelve
  • Years Active
    2017 - 2026
  • Episodes
    100
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    ©Copyright 2026
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    Better Learning Podcast