C3 Podcast: Active Shooter Incident Management

C3 Pathways

This C3 Pathways Podcast series discusses Active Shooter Incident Management (ASIM). The Podcast features instructors and special guests discussing key elements and challenges of Active Shooter Incident Management and the implications for law enforcement, fire, and EMS responders. The bad guy and the clock both kill innocent victims. Don't miss the opportunity to gain key insights that may help you save lives!

  1. Ep 131: What's New in SSAVEIM

    Jun 5

    Ep 131: What's New in SSAVEIM

    When a violent event happens at a school, the response and the reunification that follows are not a school problem or a responder problem. They are one problem, and both sides have to solve it together. School Safety and Violent Event Incident Management (SSAVEIM) prepares them to solve it together, with particular attention to the reunification a violent event forces. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey and Kevin Nichols walk through the updated course. SSAVEIM brings schools, responders, and emergency management through lockdown, the public safety response, and the reunification that follows, which many school teams have never practiced. Schools see how responders will actually manage the incident, responders see everything reunification involves, and each side leaves knowing the parts of the other's job it had never seen. The biggest focus is the part that goes differently at a school: violent-event reunification. Because the building becomes a crime scene, reunification is forced offsite, with all the logistics and security that involves. SSAVEIM builds on the I Love U Guys Foundation's Standard Response Protocol and Standard Reunification Method, and concentrates on the violent-event reunification those programs do not cover. Both school-district and community emergency managers belong in the preparation, because a violent event surfaces a long list of plans that need updating. Bring SSAVEIM to your community: https://ncier.org/ssaveim?utm_source=sc More resources: https://ncier.org/research and https://ncier.org/blog View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/m7bfI_q4ve8 Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    6 min
  2. Ep 130: What's New in ASIM Advanced

    Jun 4

    Ep 130: What's New in ASIM Advanced

    You cannot afford to wait for a real active shooter incident to find out how well your agencies coordinate. The updated Active Shooter Incident Management (ASIM) Advanced is where your agencies become one coordinated team, ready to run a real response together. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey and Kevin Nichols walk through what has changed in this three‑day course. Their focus is simple: give you a clearer view of how your teams performs when law enforcement, fire, EMS, dispatch, and command are all working together. They also discuss: New practical exercises that develop skills before running the full scenarios How the number and order of scenarios have changed so performance improves earlier and difficulty builds over time New content for emergency managers, public information officers, dispatch, intelligence, and aviation, including drone operations A special hazards block focused on active shooter incidents in healthcare environments New environments in the simulator, including a fully built‑out hospital, to practice those challenges in a live exercise setting Learn more about ASIM Advanced at: https://ncier.org/asim/advanced?utm_source=sc View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/xeKwv7HeHpw Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    10 min
  3. Ep 129: What's New in ASIM Basic

    Jun 3

    Ep 129: What's New in ASIM Basic

    The most valuable part of Active Shooter Incident Management (ASIM) Basic has always been the hands-on scenarios, so the updated course is built to give you more of them. With most of the lecture now carried by the free ASIM QuickStart course, which is a prerequisite, students arrive already sharing the fundamentals, and class time focuses on running the process. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey and Kevin Nichols walk through what changed. After a short opening that hits the high points and goes a little deeper on a few topics, the class moves into three prescribed scenarios, up from two, with time for a fourth. Those scenarios are now scripted in the trainer manual, so every class, in any state, runs the same standard and objectives. The thinking is simple: consistency is what produces quality. For agencies that want to sustain training in-house, the ASIM Basic Train-the-Trainer has been rebuilt. Because the foundation is front-loaded and the scenarios are scripted, it is now a single eight-hour day instead of two, and it qualifies up to twenty trainers at once, double the previous number, with everything they need to start teaching the next day. The course package is now a browser-based download that runs on Windows, Mac, or Linux and includes the participant guide, trainer guide, and course design document for CEU and POST submissions. And every current trainer can take a free update, eleven short modules in about an hour and fifteen minutes, that recertifies their credential for another three years. Learn more about the updated ASIM Basic at: https://ncier.org/asim/basic?utm_source=yt View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/b33b6KEZjas Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    11 min
  4. Ep 128: What's New in ASIM QuickStart

    Jun 2

    Ep 128: What's New in ASIM QuickStart

    After training more than 32,000 responders in over 2,700 active shooter exercises, we've learned what separates a coordinated response from a chaotic one: whether law enforcement, fire, EMS, and dispatch have ever operated from the same playbook. ASIM QuickStart was built to put that playbook in every responder's hands, for free. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey and Kevin Nichols introduce ASIM QuickStart, a free online course that delivers the foundational concepts of active shooter incident management in 12 short video modules, in less than an hour. It covers how an incident actually unfolds, the key roles and terminology, and how responders move from first contact to organized rescue and transport, all built on the national-standard ASIM Checklist. Because it's free, self-paced, and available on any device, an entire agency can complete it without pulling people off the street or paying to backfill shifts, and you can push it out to the mutual-aid partners who would respond alongside you. When everyone arrives already speaking the same language, you spend the first critical minutes acting instead of figuring out who does what. There's no registration wall to start, responders can watch the modules in any order, and you can earn a certificate of completion for training hours if you choose. For agencies rolling it out at scale, a free tracking tool lets a training officer see exactly who has and hasn't finished. Start the free ASIM QuickStart course at: https://ncier.org/asim/quickstart Watch this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/e9DlLZsOxug Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    8 min
  5. Ep 127: Be Clear, Not Clever. Medical? Rescue Task Force

    May 25

    Ep 127: Be Clear, Not Clever. Medical? Rescue Task Force

    After training more than 32,000 responders in over 2,700 active shooter exercises, we’ve seen Rescue Task Force (RTF) become so focused on who “counts” that it can distract from the actual goal: use the people you have to save as many lives as possible. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey talks with instructors Kevin Nichols and Kelly Boaz about a mission‑first definition of RTF that works in big cities and small communities alike: a team with a medical mission operating in an unsecured area, with its own internal security, regardless of which uniforms are on it. They discuss why time doesn’t apply the same way to every injured person, why judgment at the casualty collection point matters more than labels, and how keeping RTF concepts simple helps responders focus on getting the right patients on the first ambulances instead of debating terminology. Get the free sample Rescue Task Force SOP and glossary of definitions mentioned in this episode at:  https://ncier.org/asim/checklist https://ncier.org/research https://ncier.org/blog View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/W7HUJCBFWOc Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    25 min
  6. Ep 126: Time to Call Your Emergency Manager

    May 18

    Ep 126: Time to Call Your Emergency Manager

    Your active shooter plan needs an Emergency Manager. After 2,700 active shooter exercises across the country, we keep seeing the same pattern: one agency tries to improve its active shooter response, but without emergency management leading a shared plan, training stays siloed, and different approaches collide at the same incident. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey talks with instructors Kevin Nichols and Kelly Boaz about why your active shooter plan needs an emergency manager out front. They discuss: What happens when a single police or fire department tries to “do this on their own” without involving neighbors Why emergency management is the natural place to lead a community‑ or region‑wide plan across law enforcement, fire, EMS, and dispatch How existing EM relationships, plans, and “Rolodexes” help get chiefs and executives on the same page A practical path: get everyone in the same room, acknowledge the shared community problem, align expectations, then move into tabletops and exercises together Real examples where emergency management helped adopt a common active shooter checklist and train nearly all responders in a county or state How a line officer, firefighter, medic, or supervisor can approach their emergency manager and start this conversation without “jumping the chain of command” The bottom line: hope is not a plan. In almost every real event, “everybody is coming to this thing,” so somebody has to own one coordinated plan for everybody. That somebody is your emergency manager. Get the one‑page conversation guide mentioned in this episode to use with your emergency manager: https://ncier.org/research View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/EnG5QLvhjn8 #ActiveShooterResponse #EmergencyManagement #PublicSafety #Podcast Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    29 min
  7. Ep 125: Who is Medical on a Rescue Task Force?

    May 11

    Ep 125: Who is Medical on a Rescue Task Force?

    After training over 30,000 responders in 2,700 active shooter exercises across the country, we keep seeing the same gap: when EMS isn’t fire-based, the written plan for who goes inside and how transport capacity is protected is often unclear. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey talks with instructors Kevin Nichols and Kelly Boaz about practical ways to solve that problem before the incident happens. They discuss: The “no ambulance if you take the medic off the ambulance” dilemma in non–fire-based EMS systems Why getting private, hospital-based, and third-service EMS into RTF training is critical Whether you really need paramedics inside the warm zone, or if EMT-level skills are enough for most RTF work How smaller communities can use existing EMTs in police/fire, callback systems, hospitals, and CERT-type volunteers Working through policies like “who can drive the ambulance” with private providers and risk management Six key questions your plan should answer about RTF staffing, warm-zone care, and protecting transport capacity The theme is simple: the gaps are real, but they’re fixable if you sit down now with EMS, fire, law enforcement, hospitals, and emergency management and work the problem together. Get the Active Shooter Incident Management Checklist & Help Guide to support your RTF, triage, and transport planning: https://ncier.org/asim/checklist View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/an5NNOmbiTg #ActiveShooterResponse #IncidentManagementSystem #FirstResponders #LawEnforcementTraining #FireEMS #Podcast Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    23 min
  8. Ep 124: How Does Contact 2 Deploy?

    May 4

    Ep 124: How Does Contact 2 Deploy?

    When should Contact Team 2 move downrange in an active shooter response, and how do you do it without flooding the scene or risking blue‑on‑blue? In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey is joined by instructors Kevin Nichols and Kelly Boaz to answer a listener question about Contact Team 2. Drawing on more than 2,700 active shooter exercises, they explain why the old habit of waiting on tactical to “have time” to deploy Contact Team 2 was costing minutes, and how a simple trigger and self‑forming process gets the second team there faster without creating chaos. They cover: The consistent problem they saw with Contact 2 waiting in staging for tactical to call them The updated trigger: when the next 2–4 officers should self‑form as Contact Team 2 and move with speed and purpose How Contact Two should check in: tactical first, then Contact 1, then dispatch if needed Practical link‑up and identification habits to avoid blue‑on‑blue Why “flooding the scene” with freelancing officers wastes time, clogs the warm zone, and endangers RTF operations Using the ASIM Checklist as built‑in redundancy when tactical is overwhelmed A simple roll‑call briefing you can use so every officer on your squad knows their Contact 2 role cold If you’re a patrol supervisor, trainer, or command‑staff leader responsible for active shooter readiness, this is a useful episode to turn into a short roll‑call block, in‑service talk, or tabletop drill. View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/IL0d5mCPAyM Download the Active Shooter Incident Management Checklist & Help Guide at: https://ncier.org/asim/checklist to give your agency a single, validated playbook for contact teams, staging, CCPs, and Unified Command. Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel.  If you have questions, you can send them to info@c3pathways.com with “Podcast Question” in the subject line.  Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.org The Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.

    25 min
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This C3 Pathways Podcast series discusses Active Shooter Incident Management (ASIM). The Podcast features instructors and special guests discussing key elements and challenges of Active Shooter Incident Management and the implications for law enforcement, fire, and EMS responders. The bad guy and the clock both kill innocent victims. Don't miss the opportunity to gain key insights that may help you save lives!

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