Could supporting the lymphatic system help people living with Lyme disease feel better, sleep more comfortably, and improve their overall well-being? In this LIVE from ILADS interview, Tick Boot Camp welcomes back Freddie Kimmel, Lyme disease and metastatic cancer survivor, wellness technology educator, host of the Beautifully Broken Podcast, and representative of Flowpresso, for a fascinating conversation about lymphatic drainage, nervous system regulation, infrared heat, compression therapy, and emerging technologies being explored for recovery and wellness. Rich reconnects with Freddie at the 2025 ILADS Conference nearly five years after their original Tick Boot Camp interview. This time, Freddie introduces a technology that has become an important part of his professional work: Flowpresso, a full-body system combining sequential compression, heat, and deep-pressure stimulation. Rich also shares his firsthand experience after trying the device at the conference. He describes feeling deeply relaxed during the session, struggling to stay awake because of how comfortable he felt, and experiencing an unusually restful night of sleep afterward. For patients navigating Lyme disease, persistent fatigue, limited mobility, sleep disturbances, and other complex symptoms, the conversation raises important questions about the role supportive wellness technologies might play alongside individualized medical care. The central question: Can supporting circulation, relaxation, and lymphatic function become another useful part of a comprehensive Lyme disease recovery plan? Freddie Kimmel Returns to Tick Boot Camp Freddie Kimmel is no stranger to the Lyme disease community. A survivor of Lyme disease, metastatic cancer, and mold-related health challenges, Freddie has spent years exploring the intersection of chronic illness, functional health, emerging technology, and personal transformation. His original Tick Boot Camp appearance introduced listeners to his remarkable journey through serious illness and recovery. Listen to Episode 162: The Lyme Polymath – An Interview with Freddie Kimmel to hear his personal story. Since that conversation, Freddie has relocated from New York to Austin, Texas, where he has developed a wellness-focused community and continues exploring technologies intended to support health and recovery. During this interview, he explains that his mission is to help people become healthier versions of themselves by combining information, technology, and practical knowledge. One of the technologies that captured his attention is Flowpresso. What Is Flowpresso? Flowpresso is a full-body therapeutic system developed by New Zealand lymphatic specialist and entrepreneur Desiree De Spong. The system combines three primary components: Sequential compression: Inflatable chambers apply pressure to different parts of the body in a coordinated sequence. Thermotherapy: Integrated heating elements provide warmth during treatment. Deep-pressure stimulation: The full-body garment creates a gentle, enveloping pressure sensation intended to promote comfort and relaxation. Freddie describes the experience as being wrapped in a warm, comforting hug. Unlike smaller compression devices that primarily target the legs, Flowpresso uses multiple garment sections covering the feet, legs, abdomen, arms, and portions of the upper body. A typical session lasts approximately 40 minutes. Flowpresso is marketed as an FDA-cleared Class II medical device intended for use under licensed healthcare practitioner supervision and within its cleared indications. FDA clearance does not establish that Flowpresso treats Lyme disease, eliminates infections, or cures chronic illness. Meet Flowpresso Founder Desiree De Spong Freddie explains that his involvement with Flowpresso began after meeting Desiree De Spong through a mutual connection. Desiree is a New Zealand-based lymphatic specialist, educator, and founder of Flowpresso. Her background includes extensive experience in lymphatic health and therapeutic approaches involving compression and manual lymphatic techniques. Freddie recalls their first conversation lasting approximately an hour. He describes an immediate connection based on their shared interest in wellness, technology, and helping people navigate difficult health challenges. That relationship eventually developed into a professional collaboration. Today, Freddie helps introduce Flowpresso to practitioners, clinics, and wellness communities. Learn more about the Flowpresso team and its founder. Understanding the Lymphatic System One of the most educational parts of this conversation focuses on a body system that often receives less attention than the heart, brain, or digestive tract. The lymphatic system is a network of vessels, lymph nodes, and organs that helps maintain fluid balance, transport certain fats, and support immune function. It collects excess fluid from tissues and returns that fluid to the bloodstream. It also plays an important role in immune surveillance. Lymph nodes contain immune cells that help recognize and respond to potentially harmful substances and infectious organisms. Freddie compares the lymphatic system to a waste-management network that helps the body process material moving through tissues. Although this analogy is useful for understanding some lymphatic functions, the lymphatic system is not a general-purpose detoxification machine, and increasing lymph flow has not been shown to eliminate Lyme bacteria or other infections. Why Movement Matters for Lymphatic Flow Unlike the cardiovascular system, which relies on the heart to circulate blood, the lymphatic system does not have one central pump. Lymph movement is supported by several mechanisms, including: Skeletal muscle contractions Breathing-related pressure changes Contractions within lymphatic vessels One-way valves that help direct fluid movement Normal physical activity Freddie explains that walking, standing, squatting, and other movements can contribute to lymph circulation. This becomes especially relevant when discussing patients with severe fatigue or limited mobility. Some people living with Lyme disease or other chronic illnesses may spend extended periods resting or may be unable to tolerate ordinary exercise. The discussion explores whether supportive therapies could offer additional options for certain patients. However, activity must be adapted to each person's medical condition and physical capacity. Patients with significant exercise intolerance, post-exertional symptom exacerbation, or other limitations may need specialized guidance rather than simply increasing movement. Can Lymphatic Support Help Bedridden Lyme Patients? Rich asks Freddie an important question: What options might exist for people who are too sick to walk or exercise regularly? Freddie explains that Flowpresso provides externally applied sequential compression while the person remains reclined. Rather than requiring the patient to actively contract muscles throughout the session, the device applies pressure through inflatable garment sections. This may be of interest to clinicians evaluating appropriate supportive care for people with mobility limitations. However, there is currently insufficient evidence to conclude that Flowpresso improves Lyme disease outcomes, treats persistent infection, or accelerates recovery from Lyme disease. Compression therapy also has medical contraindications and may be inappropriate for some patients. Anyone considering this technology should consult a qualified healthcare professional, particularly if they have cardiovascular disease, blood-clotting concerns, significant swelling, neuropathy, or other complex medical conditions. How Flowpresso's Sequential Compression Works Freddie describes the Flowpresso system as a series of connected garment sections and inflatable chambers. The chambers are positioned around different areas of the body. During a session, they inflate and release in a coordinated pattern. Freddie compares the process to gently squeezing a tube of toothpaste from one end toward the other. The device uses overlapping compression chambers designed to create a progressive pressure wave. According to Freddie, this wave moves through the system repeatedly during treatment. The intent is to encourage fluid movement and provide a rhythmic, soothing sensation. Sequential pneumatic compression is an established technology used in certain medical settings, including management of selected circulation and swelling conditions. Whether a particular device is appropriate depends on its cleared indications, the patient's condition, and the clinician's assessment. Infrared Heat and Thermotherapy Another feature of Flowpresso is integrated heat. Freddie explains that the device uses warming elements within the garment sections. Unlike a traditional sauna, Flowpresso is not designed primarily to produce intense sweating. Instead, the system provides warmth while the compression chambers operate. Freddie believes this combination may help promote relaxation and complement the mechanical compression experience. Heat can influence local circulation and comfort, but claims that infrared heat directly removes toxins, kills Lyme bacteria, or reverses chronic illness require stronger scientific evidence. For patients with heat intolerance, autonomic dysfunction, impaired temperature sensation, or certain cardiovascular conditions, heat exposure may also present additional considerations. Nervous System Regulation and the Parasympathetic Response Freddie and Rich discuss the relationship between chronic illness, stress, sleep, and the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic nervous system helps regulate functions such as heart rate, breathing, digestion, and vascular activity. Its sympathetic and parasympathetic branches participate in the body's responses to acti