Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

All About Beer

Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

  1. A Shift in Beer Preferences Brings New Drinks to the Table

    May 27

    A Shift in Beer Preferences Brings New Drinks to the Table

    During the recent craft brewers conference All About Beer set up at Human Robot for a suite of podcasts. I was happy to get together with Brandon Jones, the long-time brewer and creator of Embrace the Funk.  It’s a conversation that goes into the evolution of extreme beers to nuanced, complex brews. As Jones has begun to note the shift of consumer preferences, he sees a move away from hazy IPAs towards more unique, experience-driven beers. He advocates for brewers to ask questions and learn from each other. As the industry involves, he shares insight into the brewery’s cider program, which is inspired by European natural ciders. Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: John I. HaasWhen every pound of hops matters, brewers need products that work harder in the brewhouse. LupoMAX® was engineered to deliver concentrated lupulin, intense aroma expression, and reduced process loss, helping breweries improve yields while maintaining true-to-type hop character. Available in standout varieties like Citra®, Mosaic®, Krush®, and more, LupoMAX gives brewers a smarter path to bold flavor and operational efficiency. Talk with your Haas Sales Representative or visit lupohops.com for details. SennosSennos just changed the fermentation intelligence game—again. Their new Intelligent Fusion Module packs five high-precision sensors—pH, pressure, temperature, dissolved oxygen, and conductivity—into a single compact module. One tank port and complete fermentation visibility. And, it's built to evolve. New sensing capabilities will be added over time, so your SennosM3 gets smarter as brewing science advances. Stop patching together multiple devices. Invest in an intelligence platform built for what's next. Visit sennos.com Stomp StickersIf you’ve been loyal to your current printer for years, we get it. Switching feels risky. That’s why StompStickers.com keeps it simple: low minimums for an easy test run, fast print times so you’re never stuck waiting, and a 100% satisfaction guarantee on every order. Thousands of brewers have already trusted them for over 30 years, and now you can try them for less. Head to StompStickers.com and use code TRY15 for 15% off your order. OllieYou’re paying too much to process your invoices. Look, it’s not your fault. It’s just because you’re not using Pay Smart yet. Most breweries are stuck with platforms designed for general small businesses, not the craft industry.  That’s why Pay Smart was built. It’s the new payments solution that is fully integrated into leading brewery software like Ekos and Ollie. That means less time chasing payments, fewer workarounds, and more money saved. Want to see how much you can save?Head over to save.withPaySmart.com to learn more and claim an incredible launch offer. All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: John Holl Guest: Brandon Jones Sponsors: Sennos, John I. Haas, Stomp Stickers, Ollie, All About Beer Tags: saisonPhoto: by John Holl

    1h 3m
  2. Celebrating the English Mild

    May 20

    Celebrating the English Mild

    Mild is one of the oldest continuous beer styles in the English speaking world, it was the working class pint, the beer that fueled industrial England, pulled from cask and corner pubs, consumed in volume by people who needed something honest, drinkable and affordable at the end of a long shift. At its peak in the early 20th century, mild accounted for the majority of beer sold in Britain. It wasn't a specialty, it wasn't a conversation piece, it was just beer and then almost disappeared entirely post World War II. By the 1980s mild had been reduced to a footnote. CAMRA waged a decades long campaign just to keep it on life support. So why are we here on a stage or in the grass at Little Beer festival in 2026 treating it like it matters?  Because, the market is quietly telling us something. We're in a moment defined by low and no alcohol growth, a consumer exhaustion with extreme beers, and real hunger for what you can call intentionally simple beers that reward attention rather than demand tolerance.  Mild, a style built on nuance at low ABV, is almost perfectly positioned for this cultural moment. Whether the industry is ready to actually embrace that is another question, and that's what we're here to explore today. This episode is hosted by Blake Tyres of Creature Comforts Brewing Co. He is joined by some of the most thoughtful professionals driving success in this space right now. Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host:  Blake Tyres Guests: Kyle Bergen, Zac Porter, Alex Leonard Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer Tags: Mild, Ale, Pints, Grain, PubsPhoto: By Don Tse

    55 min
  3. "Adjunct" Doesn't Mean "Cheap" When it Comes to Beer

    May 13

    "Adjunct" Doesn't Mean "Cheap" When it Comes to Beer

    There was a time when "adjunct" meant "cheap beer." One of America's largest breweries even paid millions of dollars to run television commercials during the Super Bowl accusing another of America's largest breweries of using worse adjuncts than they themselves used. Oh, what a world! But for craft breweries, an ingredient is an ingredient. What if adjuncts added flavor?  What if adjuncts actually cost more than malted barley?  What if adjuncts could tell a story of time and place? Corn and rice aren't cheap anymore.  They have a history.  They tell a story.  And good breweries know how to use ingredients to tell the story of great beer.  Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: Don Tse Guests: Doug Reiser, Tom Beckmann, Chris Piscitello Sponsors: All About Beer Tags: Rice, Corn, Brewing Photo: by Don Tse

    51 min
  4. The Perfect Beer Pour Makes All the Difference

    May 6

    The Perfect Beer Pour Makes All the Difference

    From side pull to beer engine, the perfect pour makes all the difference to how you enjoy a beer.  The pub isn't just the place you drink the beer.  Great pubs know that pouring a perfect pint is the final step in the beer making process. The right glass, clean and kept at the right temperature, combined with the right faucet in skilled hands is the difference between a good beer and the perfect beer.  Find out how great publicans ensure customers get a perfect pour on this special episode of Drink Beer, Think Beer, with special guest host--arguably the greatest broadcaster since Larry King--Don Tse. Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: Berkeley YeastOur Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA. Long Trail BreweryLong Trail Brewing has been living the trail life for over 3 decades and continues to keep it fresh and celebrate the great outdoors - best enjoyed with a cold beer at the end of the day.  This year, Long Trail is upping its commitment to trails by dedicating $15,000 to Vermont trail non-profits as part of its Ales For Trails Programs.  So, one could say that drinking Long Trail beer is a form of community service - and we thank you for that. If you're in Vermont, come on by the pub and enjoy our idyllic campus on the river.  If not, we hope you enjoy an Ale for the Trail wherever you are. All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: Larry King Jr.  Guests: Neil Callaghan, Niko Tonks, Ken Correll, Magda Hoppova Sponsors: Long Trail, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer Tags: Lukr, Foam, Beer, PoursPhoto: by Don Tse

    54 min
  5. Understanding Hop Sensory Helps Beer Taste Better

    Apr 29

    Understanding Hop Sensory Helps Beer Taste Better

    Let’s talk about hop sensory. Last week the craft brewers conference was held in Philadelphia and brewers from around the world worked to better understand processes, ingredients, and recipe development. One thing brewers and therefore drinkers can always benefit from is hop sensory. There’s no argument that hops bring great depth of flavor and aroma to beer, but aside from some top notes that many of us are able to pick out, there’s not always a lot of extra layers discussed. To dive into this deeper, Master Cicerone Max Finnance has a conversation with Jeff Dailey of John I. Haas.  Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: Max Finnance Guests: Jeff Dailey Sponsors:  All About Beer Tags: Hops, Sensory, Aroma, FlavorPhoto: Shana Solarte

    33 min
  6. Exploring the Beer Garden State with Brie Devlin

    Apr 22

    Exploring the Beer Garden State with Brie Devlin

    This week it’s a look at the Garden State. New Jersey isn’t usually on the top of lists when it comes to craft beer, but Brie Devlin, the executive director of the state’s brewing guild, is looking to change that through initiatives and outreach.  Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: Berkeley YeastOur Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA. Dogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly. All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: John Holl Guest: Brie Devlin Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer Tags: New Jersey, Guilds, Pints Photo: Courtesy of Brie Devlin

    36 min
  7. Apr 15

    Dan Kleban on Maine Beer, His U.S. Senate Run, and What Comes Next

    This week, it’s a conversation with Dan Kleban, a co-founder of Maine Beer Co. where we talk about the intersection of owning a small business, brewing, and politics. Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events. Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry. This Episode is Sponsored by: Dogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly. All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: John Holl Guest: Dan Kleban Sponsors: Dogfish Head, All About Beer Tags: Maine, Politics, Beer, Community, Service, BottlesPhoto:

    46 min
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Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

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