The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill
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How can you become a game changer? Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue. In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer. We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture. What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company. Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level. For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/

  1. 19h ago

    503. Escaping Poverty to Create a Billion-Dollar, Flamin’ Hot Brand with Richard Montañez [Encore Edition]

    What if the only thing standing between you and your billion-dollar idea is the fear of looking ridiculous? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Richard Montañez, the man behind the creation of Flamin' Hot Cheetos, to unpack the mindset that took him from a janitor at Frito-Lay to a billion-dollar brand builder. Richard shares the childhood lessons, the risks he took, and the relentless hunger that drove him to create opportunity where none existed. He makes the case that owning your background instead of hiding it is what separates the people who break through from the ones who stay stuck. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why opportunity has to be created, not waited for How to spot the idea everyone else is too "expert" to see What it takes to grow from pioneer to settler to purposeful leader Stop waiting for someone to hand you an opportunity and go create your own. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:59) Hunger Is the Antidote to Fear (00:09:22) It's Not About How Smart You Are (00:14:28) Judy and the Power of Partnership (00:23:10) Pioneers, Settlers, and Mentorship (00:29:33) Act Like an Owner (00:36:08) Earning Trust Before Earning a Title (00:39:15) The Spark Behind Flamin' Hot Cheetos (00:47:38) Calling the CEO Himself (00:51:53) Walking Into the Big Presentation (00:53:42) Finding the Courage to Stand Out (01:02:02) Bringing the Story to the Big Screen (01:05:33) What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: Flamin' Hot: The Incredible True Story of One Man's Rise from Janitor to Top Executive by Richard Montañez Flamin' Hot (2023 film) Eva Longoria DeVon Franklin Roger Enrico Bob Iger PepsiCo ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 390. Passion, Process, and Pitmaster Wisdom for Law Firm Leaders with Rodney Scott 145. Cliff Bleszinski - Control Freak: Relentless Obsession in Video Games and Success 90. Kara Goldin - Undaunted: Overcoming Doubts and Building an Empire

    503. Escaping Poverty to Create a Billion-Dollar, Flamin’ Hot Brand with Richard Montañez [Encore Edition]

  2. 5d ago

    502. AMMA — How to Protect Your Law Firm From the Wrong Executive Hires

    A polished interview, a stack of glowing references, and an impressive resume can still land you the wrong leader for your firm. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill dig into why leadership hires and promotions so often go wrong. From the star litigator who wants the corner office to the polished executive who interviews beautifully and then underdelivers once they're in the seat, they trace the gap between performing well and leading well. This episode is a practical playbook for testing competency before you hand someone your team. Here's what you'll learn: Why your best performer might be the wrong pick to lead your team How to test a candidate's leadership skills before you commit to the hire What actually separates a great interview from real competency Your next leadership decision is too expensive to leave to a good interview alone. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:27) New Gadgets Worth Watching This Season (00:06:27) Going Analog: The Tin Can Phone (00:08:57) When Your Top Performer Backfires (00:14:23) Why Big-Firm Hires Don't Always Fit (00:17:49) Testing for Real Leadership Competency (00:20:32) Getting Honest References Out of People (00:21:52) Closing Thoughts ---- Links & Resources: The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist iPhone Duo Apple Vision Pro Dyson toothbrush James Dyson Eight Sleep Pod 6 Tin Can Dark Matter Tim Cook John Ternus ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 405. AMMA - What it Takes to 10x Everything 343. AMMA - No Courage, No Progress: Why Hesitation Is Costing You Big 187. Dan Martell - Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire

    502. AMMA — How to Protect Your Law Firm From the Wrong Executive Hires

  3. Sep 29

    501. Why Human Connection Is Your Law Firm’s Greatest Advantage with Riaz Meghji

    What is it costing your firm every time a client walks away feeling like a case number instead of a person who was truly heard? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with human connection expert Riaz Meghji to unpack why so many law firms lose clients they never realized were drifting away. Riaz shares the five habits behind his bestselling book, Every Conversation Counts, and why disconnection was spreading through workplaces and relationships long before the pandemic gave it a name. This is a conversation about what it actually takes to make clients, teammates, and family feel truly seen. Here's what you'll learn: Why certainty in high-stakes conversations pushes clients and teammates away instead of building trust How to tell the difference between sharing from the wound and sharing from the scar as a leader What it takes to make your team and clients feel genuinely seen, not just heard Somebody in your life is waiting for you to ask a better question. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:25) The loneliness pandemic before COVID (00:05:37) From awkward teen to TV host (00:14:06) Ask for stories, not answers (00:18:56) Habit 1: Listening without distraction (00:22:04) Accepting bids for connection (00:26:20) Habit 2: Making small talk bigger (00:33:21) Habit 3: The perfect persona (00:38:13) Habit 4: Being assertively empathetic (00:44:49) Habit 5: Making people feel famous ---- Links & Resources: Every Conversation Counts: The 5 Habits of Human Connection That Build Extraordinary Relationships by Riaz Meghji The Conscious Parent by Dr. Shefali Tsabary Raising Conscious Sons by Dr. Shefali Tsabary John Gottman Chris Voss Hugh Jackman Arsenio Hall ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 493. Why Relationships Matter More Than Anything Else with Eddy Arriola 275. Kim Scott - The Power of Radical Respect 172. Marcus Lemonis - The Three Keys to Business: People, Process, and Product

    501. Why Human Connection Is Your Law Firm’s Greatest Advantage with Riaz Meghji

  4. Sep 24

    500. What You Can Learn From The Most Successful People on Earth: Episode 500 Spectacular

    After 500 episodes, these are the twenty conversations that changed how we think about winning. To celebrate 500 episodes of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill brings together twenty of the show's most unforgettable guests, including trial lawyers, entrepreneurs, and elite performers, for a single milestone episode built around the lessons that have shaped how we think about winning. It spans courtroom strategy, business scaling, and the mental game behind sustained excellence, distilling years of insight into one episode. Here's what you'll learn: Why grit, humility, and discipline separate legends from everyone else How to make high-pressure decisions the way elite trial lawyers, founders, and performers do What it takes to build a legacy that outlasts any single win 500 episodes came down to this: the twenty conversations worth revisiting for the rest of your career. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:35) John Morgan: The Fork in the Road (00:12:08) Brian Panish: Day of the Verdict (00:22:11) Nick Rowley: Learning From Losses (00:31:40) Camille Vasquez: Staying Authentic (00:41:42) Marcus Lemonis: The 3 P's of Business (00:53:35) Kat Cole: From Hostess to CEO (01:08:58) Verne Harnish: Scaling Past Plateaus (01:20:47) Dan Martell: Buying Back Your Time (01:30:18) Kevin O'Leary: What Makes Him Invest (01:41:53) Kim Scott: Bias, Prejudice, Bullying (01:53:40) John Maxwell: Leadership Is Influence (02:02:30) Ryan Holiday: What You Can Control (02:12:02) Robert Greene: The Art of Persuasion (02:24:13) Morgan Housel: The Psychology of Money (02:31:37) Jesse Cole: Doing the Opposite (02:41:34) Andy Glaze: Running as Punishment (02:51:29) Kristen Holmes: Sustainable Performance (03:03:06) Tim Grover: Define Winning in One Word (03:14:22) Alex Hormozi: What Founders Get Wrong (03:24:24) David Goggins: Taking Souls Links & Resources: John Morgan Brian Panish Nick Rowley Camille Vasquez The Depp v. Heard defamation trial Marcus Lemonis The Profit (CNBC) Kat Cole Verne Harnish Scaling Up by Verne Harnish Dan Martell Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell Kevin O'Leary Shark Tank Kim Scott Radical Candor by Kim Scott John Maxwell Ryan Holiday The Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday Robert Greene The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene Morgan Housel The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Jesse Cole Andy Glaze Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong by Andy Glaze Dr. Kristen Holmes Tim Grover Relentless by Tim Grover Alex Hormozi David Goggins Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 400. The Most Important Lessons After 400 Episodes 100. Game Changing Stories: 100th Episode Spectacular 66. The King of the Jungle Returns: LIVE from the EVOLVE Summit

    500. What You Can Learn From The Most Successful People on Earth: Episode 500 Spectacular

  5. Sep 22

    499. Why Knowing Your Strengths Saves You Energy and Money with David Kolbe [Encore Edition]

    What if the key to unlocking your law firm’s full potential wasn’t in the resumes you review but in understanding how your team is instinctively wired to take action? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill is joined by David Kolbe, CEO of Kolbe Corp and a thought leader in conative assessments. David shares his journey from the legal field to becoming an influential figure in helping organizations understand and harness instinctive strengths through the Kolbe assessment. The discussion dives into his insights on team dynamics, revealing the potential of both professional success and personal satisfaction by understanding one’s inherent strengths. Here’s what you’ll learn: How understanding conative strengths through the Kolbe assessment can lead to increased productivity and job satisfaction Why aligning team roles with natural inclinations reduces burnout and enhances overall firm efficiency and growth How leveraging Kolbe insights can improve both professional relationships and personal dynamics, leading to more harmonious and effective interactions This episode holds the game plan for building a cohesive, motivated, and insanely effective team - the kind of team that doesn’t just help you grow, but helps you dominate your market. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:29) Why David Kolbe left legal practice (00:04:34) The three parts of the mind (00:10:00) Why your natural strengths don't change (00:12:16) The hidden energy cost of certain tasks (00:18:18) Using Kolbe to make better hires (00:28:24) Building a team with complementary talents (00:31:37) Using Kolbe to strengthen relationships (00:41:47) When the right person is in the wrong role (00:46:20) AI and the future of human strengths ---- Links & Resources: Kolbe Myers-Briggs (MBTI) DiSCStrategic Coach and Kolbe - Mastering the People Component™ Predictive Index LSAT SAT EOS Florence Mykonos AI ChatGPT ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 406. How to Build a Law Firm Culture That Actually Works 425. Season 6 Finale: The Non-Negotiables of Elite Brands and People 355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist

    499. Why Knowing Your Strengths Saves You Energy and Money with David Kolbe [Encore Edition]

  6. Sep 17

    498. AMMA — When to Force Progress and When to Play the Long Game

    The fastest way to kill a good initiative inside your law firm is to bring in too many decision-makers and give them no deadline. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer listener questions about why good ideas stall inside law firms, when impatience is an advantage versus a liability, and what effective delegation actually requires. Here's what you'll learn: Why reducing the number of decision-makers is the fastest way to eliminate operational friction How setting deadlines and working backwards from a go-live date forces real execution When a high-upside initiative deserves patience and when low returns signal you should move on Why delegating without clear context and constraints puts the outcome outside your control If speed and patience feel like opposites inside your firm, this conversation will sharpen how and when to use both. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:00:54) Best Time to Be Alive (00:06:04) AMA Setup (00:07:02) Q1: Getting Your Firm to Move Faster (00:09:44) Fewer Decision-Makers, More Speed (00:10:18) Deadlines Force Action (00:14:00) Q2: Impatience vs. Long-Term ROI (00:17:00) High Upside Deserves More Runway (00:20:00) Q3: Delegating With Clear Context (00:23:00) ICs vs. Leaders (00:26:00) Wrap Up Links & Resources: Game Changers Summit 2026 Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 395. AMMA - Why Consensus Slows Growth and How to Fix It 456. AMMA - Why It's Your Fault If Your Team Isn't Performing 405. AMMA - What it Takes to 10x Everything

    498. AMMA — When to Force Progress and When to Play the Long Game

  7. Sep 15

    497. The Biggest Lessons Learned From a Former Fortune 500 CEO with Klaus Kleinfeld

    Time management will only take you so far. The real edge comes from managing your energy. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Klaus Kleinfeld, the only executive to have served as CEO of two Fortune 500 companies on two continents. Years ago, Klaus watched a founder he knew collapse on the floor just weeks after closing a major funding round. That moment pushed him to put his leadership philosophy into his book, Leading to Thrive: Mastering Strategies for Sustainable Success in Business and Life. Klaus walks through the energy management framework that grew out of moments like that one, and why he's convinced discipline alone is never enough to sustain a career. Here's what you'll learn: Why pushing through exhaustion leads to worse decisions, not better ones How simple breathing techniques help executives stay in control during high-stakes negotiations What separates brutal, effective criticism from criticism that just shuts a team down This episode is the reminder every overscheduled leader needs: energy, not time, is the resource that actually runs out. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:51) Why Klaus decided to write his book (00:04:53) Inner game vs. outer game explained (00:06:33) Time management vs. energy management (00:09:25) The four sources of energy (00:15:48) How to recharge and build micro-habits (00:19:27) Reframing stress through breathing (00:22:52) CEO of two Fortune 500 companies (00:28:27) Five pillars of a high-performance team (00:32:43) Leading Alcoa through a commodity crash (00:36:05) What's next for Klaus ---- Links & Resources: Leading to Thrive: Mastering Strategies for Sustainable Success in Business and Life by Klaus Kleinfeld Jeff Bezos Elon Musk Omni Biotic Life Alcoa ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 435. The 15-Minute Habit That Prevents Attorney Burnout with Leah Lagos 276. AMMA - The Myth of Work-Life Balance: What Law Firm Owners Need to Know 172. Marcus Lemonis - The Three Keys to Business: People, Process, and Product

    497. The Biggest Lessons Learned From a Former Fortune 500 CEO with Klaus Kleinfeld

  8. Sep 10

    496. AMMA — Permanent Solutions to Recurring Problems

    If your team keeps bringing you problems instead of solutions, the pattern started with you, not them. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three listener questions that all trace back to the same root problem: staying stuck in reactive mode. From training a team to solve its own problems to enforcing adherence to a process everyone claims to support, this episode unpacks why solving fires as they come keeps a firm from ever building the systems that prevent them. Here's what you'll learn: Why solving every problem for your team keeps them from solving any problem on their own How one four-word question shifts a team from asking to thinking What it actually takes to enforce adherence to a process your team already has Your team's problem-solving muscle only grows if you stop doing the lifting for them. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:05:39) Why your team hands you problems (00:06:32) The four-word question that fixes it (00:10:10) The intake leak that keeps returning (00:13:51) Firefighter ego vs. proactive leadership (00:15:44) Lay the groundwork now ---- Links & Resources: Dyson CameraJet ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It’s Your Fault If Your Team Isn’t Performing 423. AMMA - How to Actually Scale Your Standards 187. Dan Martell - Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire

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How can you become a game changer? Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue. In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer. We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture. What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company. Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level. For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/

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