Teach Outdoors

Lauren MacLean

Teach Outdoors is a podcast show that explores the benefits and challenges of bringing learning outside of the traditional classroom setting. Topics range from the science behind the benefits of outdoor learning to practical tips for incorporating outdoor activities into lesson plans. Whether you're a teacher looking to enhance your students' learning experience or simply someone who loves spending time in nature with your kids, Teach Outdoors is the podcast for you. Tune in every month to expand your knowledge and be inspired to take your teaching outside!

  1. May 28

    First Steps in Teaching Climate Change to K-3 Learners

    Today, we’re beginning a brand-new series exploring climate change, sustainability, and environmental learning in BC schools. Over the next few episodes, we’ll dig into what these ideas can actually look like in real classrooms — not as something extra to add onto already full plates, but as a way to deepen the learning we’re already doing through connection, curiosity, inquiry, and meaningful experiences. Most of us recognize that climate change and sustainability are real and important issues. We trust the science, and we know young people are growing up in a world where these conversations matter. At the same time, there are real systemic barriers. Many educators haven’t had opportunities for professional development or support in this area, so it can feel difficult to picture what environmental and climate learning actually looks like in day-to-day classroom practice. There are also incredible frameworks and resources available, but many educators either don’t know these documents exist or don’t have the time and support to fully unpack them. Sometimes these frameworks can feel academic or overwhelming at first glance. They require time to sit with, interpret, and translate into authentic classroom experiences. This series hopes to make these ideas feel more accessible. Throughout the series, we’ll explore practical strategies, real classroom examples, case studies, and ways educators can take one small idea and begin. Because this work doesn’t have to start with a massive project or unit. Often, it begins with noticing, wondering, asking questions, and helping children build relationships with the places around them — something many educators are already doing. In today’s episode, Alisa Paul and I explore the Climate Change Connections to the BC Curriculum document released by the Ministry of Energy and Climate Solutions and the Ministry of Education in September 2025. We discuss how frameworks like these can become flexible, supportive tools for educators rather than just another document sitting unread on a website. In this episode, we discuss: What climate change is How to approach climate conversations in hopeful and realistic ways rather than through fear or doomInsights from the 2025 Learning for a Sustainable Future report: From Awareness to ActionPractical classroom strategies and examples for K–3 educatorsHow climate literacy looks different across grade levelsSupporting students emotionally while helping them build knowledge and skillsWhat climate literacy can look like for educators themselvesSix climate action strategies educators can begin exploring in their classroomsWhether you’re brand new to climate education or already integrating environmental learning into your practice, we hope this conversation leaves you feeling encouraged, supported, and inspired to begin with one small step. https://lsf-lst.ca/wp-content/uploads/Final-Executive-Summary-2025.pdf https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/environment/climate-change/climate-literacy/bc_climate_change_curriculum_k-3.pdf https://cleanbc.gov.bc.ca/about-climate-change/ https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/emergency-management/education-programs-toolkits/master-of-disaster

    42 min
  2. Mar 6

    Beyond the Front Door with Josée Bergeron

    On this episode of the Teach Outdoors podcast, I’m joined by Josée Bergeron—founder of Backwoods Mama and author of Beyond the Front Door: Embracing Nature for a Happier and Healthier Family. Josée is an outdoor parenting advocate and writer who is passionate about helping families raise children who feel connected to the natural world. Josée’s work has been featured on CBC Radio and referenced in parenting books and university courses. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Nursing from the University of British Columbia and a Creative Writing Certificate from Simon Fraser University’s Writer’s Studio. Josée is Red River Métis and lives in Kelowna with her five children. In this conversation, we explore what it really means to go “beyond the front door” when it comes to nature connection. Josée shares the personal story behind writing her book during a time of parental overwhelm and burnout—and how that experience led her to create a more relatable and supportive resource for families who want to spend more time outside. We also talk about raising outdoor kids, the importance of community when it comes to getting outside with children, and the relationship between home and school in nurturing nature connection. Josée reflects on what surprised her most while writing the book, what she wishes teachers understood about children’s need for nature, and what a truly nature-centered school might look like. This episode is a thoughtful conversation about simple, meaningful ways to reconnect children—and ourselves—with the natural world just outside our doors. In this episode, we discuss: The inspiration behind Beyond the Front Door Parenting, burnout, and finding community outdoors What “beyond the front door” really means for families Designing schools with nature connection in mind How parents and teachers can support each other in getting kids outside more If this conversation resonates with you, be sure to check out Josée’s book and explore her website of resources.

    43 min
  3. Feb 20

    Curiosity: What Are They Actually Learning?

    Today we’re exploring something that feels simple… but is actually deeply transformative: curiosity. What does it really mean to be curious outdoors — not as a strategy, not as a checklist — but as a way of being? In this episode, Lauren sits down with Dr. David Bryan, an educator and consultant with decades of experience across middle school, high school, university, and independent school leadership. He co-founded New Roads School and continues to work with schools and organizations exploring innovation, governance, and learning design. But today’s conversation isn’t about titles. It’s about posture. Presence. Permission. So many of us were trained to think of learning as delivering content: Clear outcomesClear objectivesClear answersBut outdoors, learning doesn’t always resolve neatly. Questions trail off.  Interests shift.  Students crouch down to investigate something and forget the “lesson.” David speaks about how curiosity flourishes when we give explicit permission to slow down and follow what draws our attention — even briefly. What does that permission actually look like in real classrooms? Curiosity grows when teachers: Allow students to linger with an object, sound, or place without needing to name its purposeFrame outdoor time as “noticing time” rather than “lesson time”Name curiosity out loud: “I’m not sure what that is — I’m curious too.”This shift may seem small, but it changes everything. When students are being curious outdoors, they are learning: How to pay attentionHow to observeHow to formulate meaningful questionsPatienceHow to relate consciously to placeThe value of uncertaintyWhat to do when they don’t know somethingWhat to do when they don’t know what to doOf course, curricular content is present too. But genuine curiosity often begins in a quieter place: “Hmmm… I’m not sure.”And that might be the most important place learning can begin.

    58 min
  4. Jan 30

    What Does It Mean to Care About Nature? With Kelly Shuto

    In this episode of the Teach Outdoors podcast, I’m joined by Kelly Shuto—childhood friend, educator, and author of the What Does It Mean to… book series. We sit down to talk about our journey of co-writing the fourth book in her series, What Does It Mean to Care About Nature?, and how our shared history and deep connections to the natural world shaped this collaboration. Our conversation weaves together stories from our own childhoods, the role nature and play played in our lives, and why those early experiences matter so much for children today. We talk about care not as something we teach through rules or lectures, but as something that grows through time, relationship, curiosity, and joyful play outdoors. We also dig into how this book can be used in real, practical ways—with students in classrooms, during outdoor learning experiences, and at home with families. From inquiry-rich conversations to playful noticing and wondering, we explore how the book invites children (and adults) to slow down, ask questions, and build a genuine relationship with the natural world. This episode is a heartfelt reflection on friendship, creativity, play, and the belief that when children are given space to love nature, caring naturally follows. In this episode, we explore: Why Kelly and I wanted to write What Does It Mean to Care About Nature? togetherHow our childhood experiences with nature influenced our work as educators and authorsThe role of play in building care, connection, and stewardshipWays to use this book with students in classrooms and outdoor settingsHow families can use the book to spark meaningful conversations and experiences outdoorsWhether you’re a teacher, parent, or anyone who cares about helping children build a relationship with nature, this conversation is an invitation to rethink what “caring” really looks like—and how it begins with play.

    58 min
  5. Jan 23

    Play as Sanctuary with Dr. Deborah MacNamara

    Play is often treated as something extra — something we squeeze in when the “real learning” is done. But what if play is actually essential? What if, for many children, play is a sanctuary? In this episode of the Teach Outdoors Podcast, I’m joined by developmentalist, counsellor, and author Dr. Deborah MacNamara to explore the idea of Play as Sanctuary and what true, restorative play looks like in outdoor learning spaces — especially in schools. Together, we unpack why unstructured outdoor play matters for children’s emotional and developmental health, what’s really happening when kids struggle during free play, and how educators can support regulation and resilience without controlling or shutting play down. We also talk honestly about the tensions teachers feel between holding space for play and meeting curriculum expectations — and why that tension might be worth sitting with. Dr. MacNamara brings deep wisdom from her work with children and adults, as well as insights from her books Rest, Play, Grow and Nourished, helping us make sense of big feelings, big behaviour, and the role play has in helping children feel safe, seen, and restored. In this episode, we explore: What true outdoor play looks like (and how it differs from structured activities or recess)How children’s four irreducible needs show up during outdoor playWhy some students struggle with unstructured time — and how to support them without directing their playWhat “big behaviour” during or after outdoor time is really telling us developmentallyCommon fears educators have about unstructured play — and what research and clinical experience say about themHow restorative play builds genuine resilience (not just “toughening kids up”)Why play offers children rest — and how outdoor play restores in unique waysHow teachers can honour play while still feeling accountable to curriculum and learning goalsAs we wrap up, this conversation is a powerful reminder that play isn’t optional — it’s a developmental need. For many children, outdoor play is where they regulate, process, and reconnect with themselves and others. ✨ Resources mentioned: You can explore nature-based resources, ideas, and online courses for educators at teachoutdoors.ca — perfect for pro-D days, staff learning, or self-paced professional growth. If this episode resonated with you, consider sharing it with a colleague who could use permission to slow down and trust play a little more. Until next time — get outside, and keep playing.

    48 min
  6. Jan 16

    Embracing Risky Play at School

    In this episode, Lauren sits down with Dr. Mariana Brussoni—Professor at the University of British Columbia, Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership, and lead scientist of the Outside Play Lab at BC Children’s Hospital—to examine the critical role of risky play in schools. Grounded in decades of research, Dr. Brussoni explains what risky play truly means, how it differs from dangerous play, and why uncertainty, challenge, and even the possibility of minor injury are essential components of healthy child development. Drawing from her co-authored book Embracing Risky Play at School, Dr. Brussoni unpacks the six categories of risky play, the importance of time, space, and freedom outdoors, and how educators can use dynamic risk–benefit assessment to create environments that are “as safe as necessary, not as safe as possible.” She offers practical insight into when teachers should step back versus intervene, how to design “Yes Spaces” for higher-risk play, and how schools can respond to injuries in ways that support learning rather than shut down opportunities. Lauren and Dr. Brussoni also explore the connections between the decline of risky play and rising levels of anxiety and mental health challenges among children, as well as the rich cognitive, social, and emotional competencies developed when students climb, balance, build, and explore. The conversation ends with a compelling vision for the future of outdoor education—one where every child experiences meaningful, everyday opportunities for risky play as a fundamental part of their school day. Embracing Risky Play at School Buy here! Book Launch - February 5th, 2026. Join here! UBC Outside Play Teacher Tool

    47 min

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Teach Outdoors is a podcast show that explores the benefits and challenges of bringing learning outside of the traditional classroom setting. Topics range from the science behind the benefits of outdoor learning to practical tips for incorporating outdoor activities into lesson plans. Whether you're a teacher looking to enhance your students' learning experience or simply someone who loves spending time in nature with your kids, Teach Outdoors is the podcast for you. Tune in every month to expand your knowledge and be inspired to take your teaching outside!

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