What does leadership look like when you don’t fit the stereotypical image of the bold, outspoken, highly assertive leader? In this episode, we get to hear from Suha Patel, an Enneagram Type 2, and Gallia Levy, an Enneagram Type 4, about the leadership strengths that can be easy to overlook - from relationship building and coaching to authenticity, intuition, depth, and the courage to say what others may be feeling but aren’t willing to say. Suha and Gallia also share what they’ve learned from working together, including how their different strengths created trust, helped each of them grow, and allowed them to lead without trying to become someone they weren’t. When you tune in, you'll hear more about: The underrated leadership strengths of Enneagram Types 2 and 4Why leadership doesn’t always have to look loud, fast, or highly assertiveHow Type 2s can use relationships, intuition, and individualized coaching as a source of influenceThe Type 4 ability to bring honesty, emotional depth, and courage into a teamHow their Type 2–Type 4 working relationship helped both of them growBoundaries, feedback, intensity, authenticity, and other growth areas for both typesWhy you don’t have to abandon your natural leadership style in order to advanceOne of my favorite ideas from the conversation is Gallia’s closing advice to fellow Type 4s: don’t abandon your depth in order to belong as a leader. And for Type 2s, Suha offers an equally important reminder: you matter too. Please don't be shy and connect with Suha and Gallia below to let them know what you're taking away from this one! Meet Suha: Type 2 Suha Patel is a global business leader, mentor, and lifelong student of human behavior whose journey has spanned four continents, executive leadership, and deep personal transformation. As an executive in biotech, she spent decades leading in high-performance environments while quietly carrying the belief that staying small and silent was the safest way to move through the world. Her path into self-awareness, enneagrams, nervous system healing, and inner child work radically changed the way she understands leadership, relationships, identity, and emotional well-being. Today, Suha is passionate about exploring the invisible patterns that shape our lives – the survival strategies we mistake for personality, and the ways unresolved emotional experiences quietly influence how we love, lead, speak and connect. Through honest storytelling and deep reflections, she brings a grounded and compassionate perspective to conversations about healing, self-awareness, emotional regulation, and what it truly means to feel safe enough to become ourselves fully. Connect with Suha on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suhapatel/ Meet Gallia: Type 4 Dr. Gallia Levy is currently the Global Head of Development at Kite Pharma, a Gilead Company. In this capacity she oversees the Development of the Kite portfolio of cell therapies from early phase trials to approved products, across therapeutic areas such as oncology and autoimmune disease. Prior to Kite, Gallia was the Chief Medical and Product Strategy Officer at Spark Therapeutics, where she led strategic and operational teams throughout the product development lifecycle with responsibility for setting the global development and product strategy. Before joining Spark, Gallia was Vice President and Global Head of the Rare Blood Disorders Franchise in Product Development at Genentech and Roche, where she was responsible for the clinical development of treatments for hemophilia A and other rare blood disorders such as paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria (PNH), and atypical hemolytic uremic syndrome (aHUS). Gallia first joined Genentech in 2009, where she worked in both early- and late-stage clinical development. She later moved to Portola Pharmaceuticals, where she led the clinical development program for hematology and oncology indications spanning Phases 1 to registrational trials. She eventually returned to Genentech, taking responsibility for the global clinical development program for HEMLIBRA®, during which time she led the transition from Phase 1 through to global registration for adults and children with hemophilia A. Gallia is board-certified in hematology and earned an M.D. and Ph.D. in Molecular and Cellular Biology from the University of Michigan, during which time she discovered ADAMTS13, responsible for Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura (TTP). She completed her residency in internal medicine at Stanford University and a fellowship in hematology at the University of California, San Francisco. She also spent time at the Pasteur Institute, during which she received an M.S. in Molecular and Cellular Biology from the University of Paris VI, and she holds a B.A. from the University of California, Berkeley. Connect with Gallia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gallia-levy-b4700775/ Have a request for a future episode? Drop a text here!