13th & Park

Ballard Partners
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"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.

  1. 1d ago

    Framed, F*cked & Freed: Rod Blagojevich's Journey from Public Service to Serving Time | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Former Illinois Governor Rob Blagojevich joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a raw and wide-ranging conversation tied to his forthcoming memoir, Framed, F*cked, and Freed. Blagojevich walks through the early morning of December 9, 2008, when a 24-member FBI SWAT team and a hostage negotiator arrived at his Chicago home to arrest a sitting governor, and he makes the case that what was done to him was a politically motivated abuse of prosecutorial power that later served as a blueprint for cases brought against Donald Trump. Blagojevich reflects on what sustained him through 2,896 days in federal prison, including a higher-security facility where he served alongside Crips, Bloods, Gangster Disciples, and Sinaloa Cartel members. He describes reaching for his wife's Bible on his first night behind bars, reading Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, and finding unexpected humanity and inspiration in the people around him, from a former Las Vegas heroin kingpin he calls Mr. B to a lovable bank robber named Sox who paused his robbery to help a trembling elderly woman. The conversation also covers Blagojevich's complicated relationship with both Barack Obama and Donald Trump, his time on Celebrity Apprentice, and the extraordinary loyalty of his wife Patty, who defied 9-to-1 Vegas odds by standing by him throughout the entire ordeal and eventually lobbied President Trump directly to secure his release. Blagojevich draws a direct line between his father's experience in a Nazi prisoner of war camp and his own refusal to accept a plea deal for crimes he insists he never committed. Looking ahead, Blagojevich weighs in on Governor Pritzker's handling of the Chicago Bears relocation threat, the state of American political division, and his current work on behalf of Republika Srpska in Bosnia, a cause he describes as part of a larger, perhaps divinely guided, chapter of his life. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:20 Chicago Bears and Pritzker's Failure 3:09 The Book: Framed, F*cked, and Freed 6:23 The Arrest: December 9, 2008 9:30 Fighting Back Against the Government 11:20 Patty Blagojevich: Defying All Odds 14:26 The Bible and Viktor Frankl in Prison 17:07 Life Inside: Mr. B, Sox, and the Rockers 21:45 A Prosecutor Who Became the Prosecuted 24:43 Celebrity Apprentice and Trump's Pardon 29:42 The State of American Politics Today 31:17 Work in Republika Srpska 32:42 Closing Reflections Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Rob Blagojevich X: https://x.com/realBlagojevich Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/govrodblagojevich #RobBlagojevich #blagojevich #framedandfreed #illinoispolitics #politicalpodcast #prisonreform #donaldtrump #weaponizedprosecution #13thandpark #ballardpartners #governorpodcast #criminaljustice #politicsandpower #washingtondc #adamgoodman #chicagopolitics

    Framed, F*cked & Freed: Rod Blagojevich's Journey from Public Service to Serving Time | 13th & Park

  2. 4d ago

    Tal Becker: Inside Israel's Diplomatic Battles and the Fight for Its Future | 13th and Park

    Send us Fan Mail Dr. Tal Becker, Senior Fellow at the Hartman Institute and Counsel to Honigman LLP, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on Israel's security, its global image, and the profound philosophical questions underneath the headlines. One of the key architects of the Abraham Accords and Israel's representative before the International Court of Justice, Becker brings a rare combination of legal precision, diplomatic experience, and moral clarity to a conversation that is as personal as it is geopolitical. Becker opens with a framing that cuts through much of the noise: Israel has made real progress in degrading the military capabilities of its enemies, but has struggled to undercut the appeal of the stories those enemies tell. He draws a sharp moral distinction between Iran's agenda to destroy Israel and Israel's determination not to be destroyed, arguing these are not equal stakes on a level playing field. On the genocide charges brought before the International Court of Justice, Becker explains why representing Israel in that forum was disorienting in a way unlike any other, and makes the case that the charge distorts a word whose integrity matters deeply to the Jewish people and to history. The conversation moves into the rising tide of antisemitism in America and the evolving US-Israel relationship, with Becker offering a disciplined, unsentimental analysis of what drives it and what both countries can actually do about it. He also unpacks the divergence between Israeli and diaspora Jewish identity, rooted in two different lessons drawn from the Holocaust, and why that gap shapes so much of the current debate. Throughout, Becker returns to a theme of responsibility, both as a Jewish value and as a practical posture: instead of cataloguing what to worry about, asking what can actually be done. Becker closes with a meditation on Judaism itself, describing it as the opposite of conspiracy thinking, an insistence on taking responsibility for the world despite circumstance. He draws on the character of Judah in Genesis, the animating logic of the Abraham Accords, and the skills he believes parents and grandparents should be cultivating in the next generation: the capacity to hold difference, listen across disagreement, and resist the pull of easy absolutes. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:41 Where Things Stand in Israel 2:54 What the World Gets Wrong 4:36 Israeli vs. Western Views on Power 7:29 What Does Victory Look Like? 11:22 Israel's Brand and Global Narrative 13:46 Defending Israel at The Hague 16:07 Antisemitism and the US-Israel Relationship 19:33 Talking to Young Americans About Israel 22:47 The Responsibility of Judaism 26:42 The Strength of Internal Criticism 27:39 Closing Thoughts Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Tal Becker Website: https://www.hartman.org.il/person/tal-becker/ #talbecker #israel #middleeast #foreignpolicy #diplomacy #antisemitism #abrahamaccords #internationallaw #usisr ael #iran #gaza #geopolitics #jewishidentity #13thandpark #ballardpartners #podcast #politicsinterview #nationalsecurity

    Tal Becker: Inside Israel's Diplomatic Battles and the Fight for Its Future | 13th and Park

  3. Aug 24

    Pavan Agarwal on Why AI Is Fixing What Banks Broke for 40 Years | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Pavan Agarwal, CEO of Celligence and a pioneer in AI-powered mortgage technology, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation about one of the most consequential barriers to the American dream: a mortgage system that has remained largely unchanged for four decades. Drawing on more than two decades as a loan officer in South Central Los Angeles and later as a fintech builder, Agarwal traces how a process designed around W-2 workers from the 1960s has systematically shut out gig workers, minorities, veterans, and anyone whose financial life does not fit neatly into a traditional box. Agarwal shares striking data from seven years of government Home Mortgage Disclosure Act records, finding that for every two African-American applicants rejected in the conventional process, one would have been approved by AI. Three out of eight Hispanic applicants and two out of three veterans who were turned away would have qualified. He argues the problem is not the borrowers but a system built around high operational costs, roughly $5,000 per loan, that forces lenders to chase simple, low-risk files and abandon everyone else. His company's AI platform processes the same loan for under $125, and passes every dollar of savings directly to the consumer. The conversation covers how AI removes the human anxiety and implicit bias baked into a traditional loan officer interview, replacing it with a private, consistent, and warranted decision that 200,000 families have already benefited from. Agarwal also raises the alarm about how lenders exploit veterans through predatory refinances that save them $5 a month while stripping tens of thousands in equity, and explains how government adoption of AI loan review could knock half a point off interest rates for all borrowers. Chapters 0:00 Intro 8:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction 9:03 Two Decades Inside the Mortgage Industry 9:41 Loan Officer in South Central LA 10:46 The System Fails Borrowers 11:42 The Stress of Applying for a Mortgage 13:35 Where AI Changes Everything 14:29 Racial and Veteran Disparities in Lending 16:09 Why Banks Are Stuck in the Old System 17:35 The Traveling Nurse Story 20:11 Millions of Americans Left Out 20:58 Cutting Mortgage Costs by 97 Percent 22:09 Lost Decade for First-Time Buyers 25:06 Homeownership as Economic Engine 26:45 Pavan's Family Story: $100 and a HUD Repo 27:51 From Engineer to Mortgage Innovator 28:47 Helping Families Keep Their Homes 30:31 Message to Government on AI and Housing 35:20 Hope for Young Homebuyers 37:04 Closing Thoughts 38:45 VA Loan Exploitation and Predatory Refinancing 40:36 AI vs. Conventional Mortgage Side by Side 42:40 Government Pilot Testing AI for Loans 45:37 AI Outperforms Human Underwriters 48:08 Every American Should Be Cheering for This Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Pavan Aggarwal X: https://x.com/PavanCelligence Website: https://www.swmc.com/pavanagarwal/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pavan-Agarwal-100056999677087/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavan-agarwal-sunwest-celligence/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/pavanagarwal_ai/ #mortgage #artificialintelligence #homeownership #housingaffordability #fintech #americandream #pavanaggarwal #selligent #angelai #mortgagetechnology #housingmarket #firsttimehomebuyer #veterans #13thandpark #ballardpartners #politicspodcast #aiinfinance #wealthbuilding

    Pavan Agarwal on Why AI Is Fixing What Banks Broke for 40 Years | 13th & Park

  4. Aug 18

    From NFL Kicker to Congressional Candidate in Arizona | Jay Feely on 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Jay Feely spent 14 seasons in the NFL as a place kicker, but his resume extends well beyond the field. After football, he built a career as an NFL broadcaster, served on the NFLPA Executive Committee negotiating billion-dollar collective bargaining agreements, and devoted years to community work in Arizona and abroad. Now he is running for Congress in Arizona's 1st Congressional District, one of the most competitive seats in the country. On 13th and Park, Feely sits down with Adam Goodman for a wide-ranging conversation about what a life lived under pressure actually teaches you about leadership. Feely walks through the most scrutinized moment of his career, a game in Seattle where he missed three potential game winners for the New York Giants, including the role that sports psychologist Bob Rotella's book Golf Is Not a Game of Perfect played in his mental preparation. The lesson he took from that night, that failing as badly as you possibly can and surviving it is actually liberating, became the throughline for how he thinks about coaching, parenting, and now politics. He argues that the willingness to share your failures honestly, something almost no politician does, is exactly what voters are hungry for. The conversation moves into the policy terrain of Arizona's 1st District, including the Colorado River water crisis, the affordability squeeze hitting working families, the regulatory drag on home construction, and the implications of TSMC's $250 billion chip manufacturing investment in the state. Feely draws on his NFLPA experience negotiating on behalf of players across wildly different income levels as direct preparation for the budget and benefits fights he expects in Congress, and explains why owners and players alike, including Falcons Owner Arthur Blank, have lined up behind his campaign. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:33 Welcome to 13th and Park 1:46 Adam Vinatieri and the Hall of Fame 2:53 The Mental Game: Bob Rotella and Kicking Under Pressure 5:10 Seattle: The Worst Game of His Career 8:07 Philadelphia: The Redemption Kick 9:27 Leadership, Failure, and Sharing Your Scars 10:29 Running for Congress in Arizona 15:09 Water Policy and the Colorado River 19:36 Affordability, Inflation, and Housing Costs 22:17 Lessons from the NFLPA 27:36 Favorite Teammate: Larry Fitzgerald 28:13 The Fake Field Goal Touchdown 29:31 His Wife and Family Life 30:31 A Coaching Legacy and His Daughter's Soccer Team 33:51 Closing Thoughts on Leadership Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Jay Feely X: https://x.com/jayfeely IG: https://www.instagram.com/jayfeely/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-feely-8149b6b/ Website: https://www.jayfeelyforcongress.com #jayfeely #arizona #congress #nfl #nflpa #arizonapolitics #coloradoriver #politicalinterview #leadership #13thandpark #ballardpartners #adamgoodman #sportspolitics #affordability #congressionalrace #podcast #washington

    From NFL Kicker to Congressional Candidate in Arizona | Jay Feely on 13th & Park

  5. Aug 14

    Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong on Fixing America's Broken Permitting System | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a candid conversation about what happens when a career energy executive trades the boardroom for the Senate floor with a singular mission and a nine-month clock. Armstrong spent nearly four decades at the Williams Companies, rising to CEO of the Tulsa-based firm that handles roughly one-third of America's natural gas, before Governor Stitt tapped him to fill the vacancy left by Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. His focus from day one: the most comprehensive permitting reform proposal in congressional history. Armstrong breaks down why permitting reform matters far beyond its dry, technical-sounding name. He connects the dots between a culture of blocking infrastructure projects and the soaring utility bills hitting American households, particularly in the Northeast, where opposition to natural gas pipelines has left residents paying $4.50 a gallon for heating oil instead of the natural gas equivalent of $0.46. He recalls a pivotal meeting with then-Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, who openly told him cheap natural gas was unwelcome because it would undercut the political pressure to invest in greener alternatives, a candid admission Armstrong says the public never got to hear. The senator is equally candid about the challenge of building a bipartisan coalition in a Senate paralyzed ahead of the midterms. He describes the frustration of watching moderate Democrats, who privately understand the urgency, face relentless pressure to block anything that might be called a win for the current administration. His colleague John Barrasso, he says with a laugh, watches him wrestle with the politics and just shakes his head. Armstrong is clear-eyed about the timeline: he almost certainly will not be in the chamber when a signing ceremony happens, but he does not care whose name is on the bill. He just wants it done. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:29 Host Introduction and Oklahoma Story 2:15 The Call from Governor Stitt 4:32 Family Reaction and the Landrieu Connection 5:24 What Is Permitting Reform? 7:43 Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Public Education 9:46 Northeast Pipelines and Higher Emissions 11:10 The Deval Patrick Meeting 12:24 Building a Bipartisan Coalition 14:53 China Is Building Faster Than America 17:23 Texas Roots and the Williams Companies Legacy 19:30 Building Infrastructure vs. Building Coalitions 21:31 Legacy Beyond the Senate Term 22:16 Appointed Senators Who Came Before 23:15 Closing Thoughts Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Alan Armstrong X: https://x.com/SenArmstrong IG: https://instagram.com/senarmstrongok Website: https://armstrong.senate.gov #alanarmstrong #permittingreform #energypolicy #naturalgas #oklahoma #usssenate #infrastructure #williamsscompanies #energydominance #13thandpark #politicalpodcast #washingtondc #bipartisan #americanenergy #congress #ballardpartners #utilitybills #energyindependence

    Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong on Fixing America's Broken Permitting System | 13th & Park

  6. Aug 7

    Can Congress Save College Sports Before It's Too Late? Senator Eric Schmitt Says Yes | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Missouri Senator Eric Schmitt joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation that moves from a viral SportsCenter moment to one of the most personal stories in the United States Senate. Schmitt, a former two-sport college athlete, made a full-extension diving catch at this year's Congressional Baseball Game at Nats Park, bloodied his nose on the warning track, won MVP honors, and landed on ESPN's Top 10. He jokes that more people have stopped him about that play than anything he has accomplished in politics, including a stranger watering flowers near St. Louis and a Jumbotron appearance at Busch Stadium. On policy, Schmitt walks through the Protect College Sports Act, the bipartisan bill he has been advancing alongside Senators Cruz, Cantwell, Coons, and others. He frames the NIL era in two buckets: a governance piece covering transfer rules, eligibility limits, guaranteed scholarships, and health insurance for student athletes, and a pooled media rights structure that would allow conferences to negotiate television deals collectively under antitrust protection. His argument is straightforward: college football has historically subsidized women's and Olympic sports, and if that revenue base collapses, hundreds of thousands of student athletes lose scholarships and opportunities. He shares what he has learned from extended conversations with SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey and Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti, and explains why voluntary participation is essential to making the media rights strategy work. Schmitt also breaks down the American Citizenship Act, his statutory response to the Supreme Court's rejection of the president's birthright citizenship order. Drawing on Justice Kavanaugh's concurrence and the language of the 14th Amendment alongside the Civil Rights Act of 1866, he outlines a legislative roadmap he believes could produce a 5-4 Supreme Court decision in the other direction. The most revealing stretch of the conversation is personal. Schmitt describes the night his son Stephen, who has tuberous sclerosis, epilepsy, and autism, suffered a four-hour grand mal seizure. Watching a red digital clock above the ICU bed and waiting for doctors to try the next medication, Schmitt began a process of discernment that led him into public service. He credits Stephen with reshaping his perspective on what matters, driving his early push for autism insurance reform in the Missouri state legislature, and anchoring the bipartisan disability legislation he continues to pursue in the Senate today. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:30 The Congressional Baseball Game Catch 2:35 Kids React to Dad's Viral Moment 3:57 Protect College Sports Act Explained 6:55 Conversations with Conference Commissioners 8:28 Pooled Media Rights Strategy 9:51 Birthright Citizenship and the American Citizenship Act 11:57 Son Stephen and a Father's Mission 14:14 Families Who Have Reached Out 15:25 Working-Class Roots and Public Service 17:42 Bipartisan Hope in Washington 19:25 What He Wants His Kids to Remember 20:33 The Second Catch Nobody Saw 21:34 Closing Remarks Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Eric Schmitt X: https://x.com/SenEricSchmitt IG: https://www.instagram.com/senericschmitt/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SenEricSchmitt/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@senericschmitt Website: https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/ #ericschmitt #missouri #collegesports #nil #protectcollegesports #birthrightcitizenship #usssenate #collegeathlete #publicservice #congressionalbaseballgame #13thandpark #ballardpartners #politics2025 #bipartisan #studentathletes #adamgoodman

    Can Congress Save College Sports Before It's Too Late? Senator Eric Schmitt Says Yes | 13th & Park

  7. Aug 6

    Audrey Tang: Designing AI to Unite Us, Not Divide Us | 13th and Park

    Send us Fan Mail Audrey Tang, Taiwan's former digital minister and one of the world's most recognized civic technologists, joins Adam Goodman and Amy Tong on 13th and Park for a conversation about artificial intelligence, democratic renewal, and how to move a deeply polarized society toward uncommon ground. Tang, now academically based at Oxford, challenges the dominant framing of AI as either existential threat or salvation, arguing that the real problem is the misaligned recommendation engines of 2014 that trained us to mistake outrage for engagement. The path forward, Tang argues, is not to pick a side but to design platforms that surface what people already agree on without knowing it. Drawing on Taiwan's remarkable turnaround from 9 percent government approval during the Sunflower Movement to broad public trust a decade later, Tang explains how citizen assemblies, deliberative polling, and tools like the Polis platform can compress what took the printing press generations into a matter of weeks. The episode traces concrete examples from Taiwan's 94 percent reduction in deepfake investment scams to citizen-driven policy in Bowling Green, Kentucky and a Connecticut property tax assembly, all powered by the same core idea: when you remove the reply button and the dunk button, people find each other. Tang and Tong also dig into the question of scale, with Tang pushing back on the assumption that what worked for 23 million Taiwanese cannot work for 330 million Americans. The 50 states, Tang argues, are 50 laboratories of democracy, and California, Utah, and Central Oregon are already running the experiment. The real barrier is not size or polarization. It is simply that most people do not yet know their neighbors are already doing this. The conversation closes with Tang reflecting on a childhood heart condition that shaped a philosophy of publish before perishing, a habit of sharing half-formed ideas in public that turned disagreement into friendship. Tang's next book, underway at Civic.AI, frames democracy itself as a social technology invented largely in America, one that Taiwan ran at internet scale and is now ready to return home. Chapters 0:00 Intro 2:34 Doomers vs. Bloomers on AI 4:28 Why Change Feels Faster Now 5:36 Race vs. Mission Framing 7:07 Finding Uncommon Ground 9:02 How Recommendation Engines Broke Us 11:12 Taiwan's Democratic Comeback 14:40 Can This Scale to the US? 18:48 Citizen Assemblies in America 20:00 Tang's Origin Story 22:25 Meeting the AI Moment 24:10 Social Media and Young People 26:52 Democracy as Technology Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Audrey Tang X: https://x.com/audreyt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tangaudrey/ Website: https://Civic.AI #audreytang #artificialintelligence #democracy #taiwan #aipolicy #civictech #13thandpark #politicalpodcast #socialmedia #citizenassembly #techpolicy #digitaldemocracy #ballardpartners #aigovernance #polarization #uncommongound #publictrustingov

    Audrey Tang: Designing AI to Unite Us, Not Divide Us | 13th and Park

  8. Aug 1

    The Tech Mindset Every Governor Needs to Hear, From California's Former CIO Amy Tong | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Amy Tong, former California Chief Information Officer and Secretary of Government Operations, and now a Partner with Ballard Partners and Chair of the Emerging Tech and AI Policy Group, joins Adam Goodman and co-host Anthony Williams at Ballard Studios in Washington, DC for a wide-ranging conversation on what it actually takes to modernize government from the inside. Tong arrived in the United States in 1986 as a 12-year-old, landing at San Francisco International Airport with her family and 8 suitcases after her parents, both college professors in China, decided the American university system offered opportunities that simply did not exist back home. That immigrant drive runs through everything she has done since, including a 31-year career spanning 6 state agencies and 5 governors, from the mainframe era all the way through the AI revolution. Tong breaks down the digital transformation of California government, from the early days when technology was seen as a back-office function to today's expectation that citizens should be able to renew a driver's license as easily as they order something on Amazon. She shares how the COVID-19 pandemic became an unlikely catalyst for breakthrough change, forcing state leaders to rethink how government communicates and delivers services in real time, when the old playbook no longer applied and the public was watching every move online. The conversation turns to cybersecurity and artificial intelligence, two areas Tong describes as inseparable in the current threat environment. She helped create California's Cybersecurity Integration Center under Governor Jerry Brown and later led implementation of the nation's first statewide executive order governing generative AI in state government under Governor Gavin Newsom. Her message is direct: complacency is no longer an option, and any government that does not put digital service delivery at the center of its mission is not one decade behind, it is multiple decades behind. Now advising private-sector clients through Ballard Partners, Tong offers a rare insider view on what technology companies consistently get wrong when trying to work with government. Relationships built on genuine understanding of an agency's mission matter far more than a polished pitch, and the companies that invest in that long-term trust are the ones that win when contract opportunities finally arrive. It is a lesson rooted in decades of watching both sides of that equation up close. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:39 Welcome and Guest Introduction 2:00 8 Suitcases: Coming to America in 1986 3:46 From Mainframes to Mobile Government 5:42 Public Expectations of Digital Services 7:18 COVID-19 as a Digital Turning Point 12:13 Building California's Cybersecurity Center 14:41 AI for Good: California's Executive Order 16:15 Working Across 5 Governors 18:19 Advice for Incoming Governors on Tech 19:05 What Private Sector Gets Wrong About Government 22:10 Reflecting on Family and Sacrifice 23:57 Silicon Valley's Entrepreneurship Mindset 25:06 Schwarzenegger Stories and Bipartisan Tech 28:05 Closing Thoughts on Innovation and Curiosity Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Amy Tong LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-tong-734aaa5 #amytong #governmenttechnology #artificialintelligence #cybersecurity #digitaltransformation #californiagovernment #publicpolicy #aipolicy #govtech #publicsector #techpolicy #13thandpark #ballardpartners #innovation #immigrantstory #stategovernment #smartgovernment

    The Tech Mindset Every Governor Needs to Hear, From California's Former CIO Amy Tong | 13th & Park
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"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.

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  • Creator
    Ballard Partners
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    240
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 13th & Park
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