13th & Park

Ballard Partners

"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.

  1. 5d ago

    Amaryllis Fox Kennedy: From the CIA to the White House and What Comes Next | 13th and Park

    Send us Fan Mail Amaryllis Fox Kennedy joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a rare and wide-ranging conversation that moves from the trauma of losing a childhood friend on Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, to recruiting algorithms at Georgetown, to running covert operations for the CIA in her early twenties. Her journey from a nomadic childhood, shaped by her father Hodson's work as a world economist and her mother's career as an actress, to the corridors of the intelligence community is as unlikely as it is logical. She draws a direct line between the loss she experienced at age 8 and the hunger to understand, and ultimately prevent, the kind of violence that took her friend Lauren. Fox Kennedy offers a clear-eyed account of what it takes to operate undercover, the isolation, the faith, the discipline of truly listening to adversaries rather than simply targeting them. She reflects on a formative 1999 interview with Aung San Suu Kyi, conducted before she ever considered working for the CIA, which crystallized her belief that free expression is the most powerful force on earth, more durable than any military apparatus or surveillance state. The conversation moves into the present as Fox Kennedy describes building Mission AI, the largest interagency artificial intelligence program across the intelligence community, designed to shift analysts from prompted tasks to unprompted warning. She lays out both the promise and the genuine peril of recursive self-improvement in AI systems, the quantum computing race with China, and why she believes the current administration is uniquely positioned to set the long-term trajectory for how these technologies serve, or surveil, the American people. She speaks candidly about the personal cost of that work, stepping back from senior roles at OMB and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence after going weeks without seeing her children awake, and about the private conversations she witnessed between RFK Jr. and the president that deepened her respect for both. Her closing message is simple and tactical: understanding what drives your adversaries is not a weakness, it is the only path to winning. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:36 Welcome to 13th and Park 1:40 Growing Up, Pan Am 103, and Lauren 3:48 9/11, Danny Pearl, and Joining the CIA 5:08 The Algorithm That Got Her Recruited 6:19 Life as a Covert Officer Overseas 7:58 Aung San Suu Kyi and the Power of Free Speech 10:50 Common Ground and the RFK Jr. Campaign 12:00 Restoring Trust in Institutions 13:36 AI: The Turning Point for Freedom 18:50 Quantum Computing and the China Race 20:30 Advice for Tech Innovators and Government 21:52 Balancing Family and Public Service 23:43 The Kennedy Family and What Drives Her 28:02 Closing Thoughts on Listening and Leadership Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Amaryllis Fox Kennedy X: https://x.com/amaryllisfox IG: https://instagram.com/amaryllisfox #amaryllisfoxkennedy #cia #artificialintelligence #nationalsecurity #13thandpark #rfkjr #intelligencecommunity #quantumcomputing #politicalpodcast #undercover #whitehouse #airegulation #publicsafety #ballardpartners #lifeundercover #washington

    Amaryllis Fox Kennedy: From the CIA to the White House and What Comes Next | 13th and Park
  2. Sep 13

    Helios Towers: Connecting Africa, One Cell Tower at a Time | Tom Greenwood on 13th and Park

    Send us Fan Mail Tom Greenwood, CEO of Helios Towers, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on Africa's digital transformation and the critical role cell tower infrastructure plays in connecting hundreds of millions of people to the global economy. Greenwood, the fourth employee of a company that now operates more than 15,000 towers across eight African countries and Oman, traces Helios Towers' origins to the post-financial-crisis moment when the company's founders, including Chuck Green, who had previously built Crown Castle in the US, saw an unparalleled opportunity to bring the tower-sharing business model to a continent on the verge of explosive growth. Greenwood breaks down the infrastructure gap that existed across Africa when Helios Towers launched around 2009 and 2010, and how the company has since helped drive connectivity from 2G through to early 5G deployment. He explains why Africa, though roughly five to eight years behind the rest of the world technologically, represents one of the clearest growth opportunities anywhere on earth: a population set to double over the next 30 to 40 years, a massive gap between broadband availability and actual internet usage, and a post-COVID behavioral shift that has dramatically accelerated data consumption across the continent. The conversation turns to geopolitics and investment strategy as Greenwood addresses China's decades-long head start in African infrastructure investment and makes a direct case for why American capital and diplomatic engagement need to be far more coordinated and present on the continent. He draws a parallel between modern connectivity infrastructure and the soft diplomacy once practiced through Voice of America and the BBC World Service, arguing that Africa's scale and trajectory make engagement not just a commercial opportunity but a national security imperative. Greenwood also shares a personal story from Tanzania, where a newly connected village allowed one of his employees to video call her newborn baby with a grandmother who had never had cellular access before, illustrating the human stakes behind every tower Helios builds. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:35 Soccer, Tottenham, and QPR 2:02 How Helios Towers Started 4:26 Africa's Young Population and Digital Gap 6:50 Cell Towers as Critical Infrastructure 8:07 Inside a Cell Tower 10:24 The DRC: 3,000 Towers and Growing 13:11 Connectivity Changing Lives 13:53 China, America, and the Race for Africa 17:01 Soft Power and Diplomacy 18:50 Building in New Communities 20:41 Purpose Behind the Work 21:38 Closing Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Tom Greenwood LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-greenwoodht/ Website: https://www.heliostowers.com #heliosowers #africa #infrastructure #telecom #emergingmarkets #celltowers #digitalconnectivity #africabusiness #geopolitics #13thandpark #ballardpartners #drc #softpower #americaninvestment #technology #5g #globaleconomy

    Helios Towers: Connecting Africa, One Cell Tower at a Time | Tom Greenwood on 13th and Park
  3. Sep 1

    Framed, F*cked & Freed: Rod Blagojevich's Journey from Public Service to Serving Time | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Former Illinois Governor Rob Blagojevich joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a raw and wide-ranging conversation tied to his forthcoming memoir, Framed, F*cked, and Freed. Blagojevich walks through the early morning of December 9, 2008, when a 24-member FBI SWAT team and a hostage negotiator arrived at his Chicago home to arrest a sitting governor, and he makes the case that what was done to him was a politically motivated abuse of prosecutorial power that later served as a blueprint for cases brought against Donald Trump. Blagojevich reflects on what sustained him through 2,896 days in federal prison, including a higher-security facility where he served alongside Crips, Bloods, Gangster Disciples, and Sinaloa Cartel members. He describes reaching for his wife's Bible on his first night behind bars, reading Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, and finding unexpected humanity and inspiration in the people around him, from a former Las Vegas heroin kingpin he calls Mr. B to a lovable bank robber named Sox who paused his robbery to help a trembling elderly woman. The conversation also covers Blagojevich's complicated relationship with both Barack Obama and Donald Trump, his time on Celebrity Apprentice, and the extraordinary loyalty of his wife Patty, who defied 9-to-1 Vegas odds by standing by him throughout the entire ordeal and eventually lobbied President Trump directly to secure his release. Blagojevich draws a direct line between his father's experience in a Nazi prisoner of war camp and his own refusal to accept a plea deal for crimes he insists he never committed. Looking ahead, Blagojevich weighs in on Governor Pritzker's handling of the Chicago Bears relocation threat, the state of American political division, and his current work on behalf of Republika Srpska in Bosnia, a cause he describes as part of a larger, perhaps divinely guided, chapter of his life. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:20 Chicago Bears and Pritzker's Failure 3:09 The Book: Framed, F*cked, and Freed 6:23 The Arrest: December 9, 2008 9:30 Fighting Back Against the Government 11:20 Patty Blagojevich: Defying All Odds 14:26 The Bible and Viktor Frankl in Prison 17:07 Life Inside: Mr. B, Sox, and the Rockers 21:45 A Prosecutor Who Became the Prosecuted 24:43 Celebrity Apprentice and Trump's Pardon 29:42 The State of American Politics Today 31:17 Work in Republika Srpska 32:42 Closing Reflections Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Rob Blagojevich X: https://x.com/realBlagojevich Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/govrodblagojevich #RobBlagojevich #blagojevich #framedandfreed #illinoispolitics #politicalpodcast #prisonreform #donaldtrump #weaponizedprosecution #13thandpark #ballardpartners #governorpodcast #criminaljustice #politicsandpower #washingtondc #adamgoodman #chicagopolitics

    Framed, F*cked & Freed: Rod Blagojevich's Journey from Public Service to Serving Time | 13th & Park
  4. Aug 29

    Tal Becker: Inside Israel's Diplomatic Battles and the Fight for Its Future | 13th and Park

    Send us Fan Mail Dr. Tal Becker, Senior Fellow at the Hartman Institute and Counsel to Honigman LLP, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on Israel's security, its global image, and the profound philosophical questions underneath the headlines. One of the key architects of the Abraham Accords and Israel's representative before the International Court of Justice, Becker brings a rare combination of legal precision, diplomatic experience, and moral clarity to a conversation that is as personal as it is geopolitical. Becker opens with a framing that cuts through much of the noise: Israel has made real progress in degrading the military capabilities of its enemies, but has struggled to undercut the appeal of the stories those enemies tell. He draws a sharp moral distinction between Iran's agenda to destroy Israel and Israel's determination not to be destroyed, arguing these are not equal stakes on a level playing field. On the genocide charges brought before the International Court of Justice, Becker explains why representing Israel in that forum was disorienting in a way unlike any other, and makes the case that the charge distorts a word whose integrity matters deeply to the Jewish people and to history. The conversation moves into the rising tide of antisemitism in America and the evolving US-Israel relationship, with Becker offering a disciplined, unsentimental analysis of what drives it and what both countries can actually do about it. He also unpacks the divergence between Israeli and diaspora Jewish identity, rooted in two different lessons drawn from the Holocaust, and why that gap shapes so much of the current debate. Throughout, Becker returns to a theme of responsibility, both as a Jewish value and as a practical posture: instead of cataloguing what to worry about, asking what can actually be done. Becker closes with a meditation on Judaism itself, describing it as the opposite of conspiracy thinking, an insistence on taking responsibility for the world despite circumstance. He draws on the character of Judah in Genesis, the animating logic of the Abraham Accords, and the skills he believes parents and grandparents should be cultivating in the next generation: the capacity to hold difference, listen across disagreement, and resist the pull of easy absolutes. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:41 Where Things Stand in Israel 2:54 What the World Gets Wrong 4:36 Israeli vs. Western Views on Power 7:29 What Does Victory Look Like? 11:22 Israel's Brand and Global Narrative 13:46 Defending Israel at The Hague 16:07 Antisemitism and the US-Israel Relationship 19:33 Talking to Young Americans About Israel 22:47 The Responsibility of Judaism 26:42 The Strength of Internal Criticism 27:39 Closing Thoughts Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Tal Becker Website: https://www.hartman.org.il/person/tal-becker/ #talbecker #israel #middleeast #foreignpolicy #diplomacy #antisemitism #abrahamaccords #internationallaw #usisr ael #iran #gaza #geopolitics #jewishidentity #13thandpark #ballardpartners #podcast #politicsinterview #nationalsecurity

    Tal Becker: Inside Israel's Diplomatic Battles and the Fight for Its Future | 13th and Park
  5. Aug 24

    Pavan Agarwal on Why AI Is Fixing What Banks Broke for 40 Years | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Pavan Agarwal, CEO of Celligence and a pioneer in AI-powered mortgage technology, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation about one of the most consequential barriers to the American dream: a mortgage system that has remained largely unchanged for four decades. Drawing on more than two decades as a loan officer in South Central Los Angeles and later as a fintech builder, Agarwal traces how a process designed around W-2 workers from the 1960s has systematically shut out gig workers, minorities, veterans, and anyone whose financial life does not fit neatly into a traditional box. Agarwal shares striking data from seven years of government Home Mortgage Disclosure Act records, finding that for every two African-American applicants rejected in the conventional process, one would have been approved by AI. Three out of eight Hispanic applicants and two out of three veterans who were turned away would have qualified. He argues the problem is not the borrowers but a system built around high operational costs, roughly $5,000 per loan, that forces lenders to chase simple, low-risk files and abandon everyone else. His company's AI platform processes the same loan for under $125, and passes every dollar of savings directly to the consumer. The conversation covers how AI removes the human anxiety and implicit bias baked into a traditional loan officer interview, replacing it with a private, consistent, and warranted decision that 200,000 families have already benefited from. Agarwal also raises the alarm about how lenders exploit veterans through predatory refinances that save them $5 a month while stripping tens of thousands in equity, and explains how government adoption of AI loan review could knock half a point off interest rates for all borrowers. Chapters 0:00 Intro 8:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction 9:03 Two Decades Inside the Mortgage Industry 9:41 Loan Officer in South Central LA 10:46 The System Fails Borrowers 11:42 The Stress of Applying for a Mortgage 13:35 Where AI Changes Everything 14:29 Racial and Veteran Disparities in Lending 16:09 Why Banks Are Stuck in the Old System 17:35 The Traveling Nurse Story 20:11 Millions of Americans Left Out 20:58 Cutting Mortgage Costs by 97 Percent 22:09 Lost Decade for First-Time Buyers 25:06 Homeownership as Economic Engine 26:45 Pavan's Family Story: $100 and a HUD Repo 27:51 From Engineer to Mortgage Innovator 28:47 Helping Families Keep Their Homes 30:31 Message to Government on AI and Housing 35:20 Hope for Young Homebuyers 37:04 Closing Thoughts 38:45 VA Loan Exploitation and Predatory Refinancing 40:36 AI vs. Conventional Mortgage Side by Side 42:40 Government Pilot Testing AI for Loans 45:37 AI Outperforms Human Underwriters 48:08 Every American Should Be Cheering for This Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Pavan Aggarwal X: https://x.com/PavanCelligence Website: https://www.swmc.com/pavanagarwal/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pavan-Agarwal-100056999677087/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavan-agarwal-sunwest-celligence/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/pavanagarwal_ai/ #mortgage #artificialintelligence #homeownership #housingaffordability #fintech #americandream #pavanaggarwal #selligent #angelai #mortgagetechnology #housingmarket #firsttimehomebuyer #veterans #13thandpark #ballardpartners #politicspodcast #aiinfinance #wealthbuilding

    Pavan Agarwal on Why AI Is Fixing What Banks Broke for 40 Years | 13th & Park
  6. Aug 18

    From NFL Kicker to Congressional Candidate in Arizona | Jay Feely on 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Jay Feely spent 14 seasons in the NFL as a place kicker, but his resume extends well beyond the field. After football, he built a career as an NFL broadcaster, served on the NFLPA Executive Committee negotiating billion-dollar collective bargaining agreements, and devoted years to community work in Arizona and abroad. Now he is running for Congress in Arizona's 1st Congressional District, one of the most competitive seats in the country. On 13th and Park, Feely sits down with Adam Goodman for a wide-ranging conversation about what a life lived under pressure actually teaches you about leadership. Feely walks through the most scrutinized moment of his career, a game in Seattle where he missed three potential game winners for the New York Giants, including the role that sports psychologist Bob Rotella's book Golf Is Not a Game of Perfect played in his mental preparation. The lesson he took from that night, that failing as badly as you possibly can and surviving it is actually liberating, became the throughline for how he thinks about coaching, parenting, and now politics. He argues that the willingness to share your failures honestly, something almost no politician does, is exactly what voters are hungry for. The conversation moves into the policy terrain of Arizona's 1st District, including the Colorado River water crisis, the affordability squeeze hitting working families, the regulatory drag on home construction, and the implications of TSMC's $250 billion chip manufacturing investment in the state. Feely draws on his NFLPA experience negotiating on behalf of players across wildly different income levels as direct preparation for the budget and benefits fights he expects in Congress, and explains why owners and players alike, including Falcons Owner Arthur Blank, have lined up behind his campaign. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:33 Welcome to 13th and Park 1:46 Adam Vinatieri and the Hall of Fame 2:53 The Mental Game: Bob Rotella and Kicking Under Pressure 5:10 Seattle: The Worst Game of His Career 8:07 Philadelphia: The Redemption Kick 9:27 Leadership, Failure, and Sharing Your Scars 10:29 Running for Congress in Arizona 15:09 Water Policy and the Colorado River 19:36 Affordability, Inflation, and Housing Costs 22:17 Lessons from the NFLPA 27:36 Favorite Teammate: Larry Fitzgerald 28:13 The Fake Field Goal Touchdown 29:31 His Wife and Family Life 30:31 A Coaching Legacy and His Daughter's Soccer Team 33:51 Closing Thoughts on Leadership Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Jay Feely X: https://x.com/jayfeely IG: https://www.instagram.com/jayfeely/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-feely-8149b6b/ Website: https://www.jayfeelyforcongress.com #jayfeely #arizona #congress #nfl #nflpa #arizonapolitics #coloradoriver #politicalinterview #leadership #13thandpark #ballardpartners #adamgoodman #sportspolitics #affordability #congressionalrace #podcast #washington

    From NFL Kicker to Congressional Candidate in Arizona | Jay Feely on 13th & Park
  7. Aug 14

    Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong on Fixing America's Broken Permitting System | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a candid conversation about what happens when a career energy executive trades the boardroom for the Senate floor with a singular mission and a nine-month clock. Armstrong spent nearly four decades at the Williams Companies, rising to CEO of the Tulsa-based firm that handles roughly one-third of America's natural gas, before Governor Stitt tapped him to fill the vacancy left by Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. His focus from day one: the most comprehensive permitting reform proposal in congressional history. Armstrong breaks down why permitting reform matters far beyond its dry, technical-sounding name. He connects the dots between a culture of blocking infrastructure projects and the soaring utility bills hitting American households, particularly in the Northeast, where opposition to natural gas pipelines has left residents paying $4.50 a gallon for heating oil instead of the natural gas equivalent of $0.46. He recalls a pivotal meeting with then-Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, who openly told him cheap natural gas was unwelcome because it would undercut the political pressure to invest in greener alternatives, a candid admission Armstrong says the public never got to hear. The senator is equally candid about the challenge of building a bipartisan coalition in a Senate paralyzed ahead of the midterms. He describes the frustration of watching moderate Democrats, who privately understand the urgency, face relentless pressure to block anything that might be called a win for the current administration. His colleague John Barrasso, he says with a laugh, watches him wrestle with the politics and just shakes his head. Armstrong is clear-eyed about the timeline: he almost certainly will not be in the chamber when a signing ceremony happens, but he does not care whose name is on the bill. He just wants it done. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:29 Host Introduction and Oklahoma Story 2:15 The Call from Governor Stitt 4:32 Family Reaction and the Landrieu Connection 5:24 What Is Permitting Reform? 7:43 Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Public Education 9:46 Northeast Pipelines and Higher Emissions 11:10 The Deval Patrick Meeting 12:24 Building a Bipartisan Coalition 14:53 China Is Building Faster Than America 17:23 Texas Roots and the Williams Companies Legacy 19:30 Building Infrastructure vs. Building Coalitions 21:31 Legacy Beyond the Senate Term 22:16 Appointed Senators Who Came Before 23:15 Closing Thoughts Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Alan Armstrong X: https://x.com/SenArmstrong IG: https://instagram.com/senarmstrongok Website: https://armstrong.senate.gov #alanarmstrong #permittingreform #energypolicy #naturalgas #oklahoma #usssenate #infrastructure #williamsscompanies #energydominance #13thandpark #politicalpodcast #washingtondc #bipartisan #americanenergy #congress #ballardpartners #utilitybills #energyindependence

    Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong on Fixing America's Broken Permitting System | 13th & Park
  8. Aug 7

    Can Congress Save College Sports Before It's Too Late? Senator Eric Schmitt Says Yes | 13th & Park

    Send us Fan Mail Missouri Senator Eric Schmitt joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation that moves from a viral SportsCenter moment to one of the most personal stories in the United States Senate. Schmitt, a former two-sport college athlete, made a full-extension diving catch at this year's Congressional Baseball Game at Nats Park, bloodied his nose on the warning track, won MVP honors, and landed on ESPN's Top 10. He jokes that more people have stopped him about that play than anything he has accomplished in politics, including a stranger watering flowers near St. Louis and a Jumbotron appearance at Busch Stadium. On policy, Schmitt walks through the Protect College Sports Act, the bipartisan bill he has been advancing alongside Senators Cruz, Cantwell, Coons, and others. He frames the NIL era in two buckets: a governance piece covering transfer rules, eligibility limits, guaranteed scholarships, and health insurance for student athletes, and a pooled media rights structure that would allow conferences to negotiate television deals collectively under antitrust protection. His argument is straightforward: college football has historically subsidized women's and Olympic sports, and if that revenue base collapses, hundreds of thousands of student athletes lose scholarships and opportunities. He shares what he has learned from extended conversations with SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey and Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti, and explains why voluntary participation is essential to making the media rights strategy work. Schmitt also breaks down the American Citizenship Act, his statutory response to the Supreme Court's rejection of the president's birthright citizenship order. Drawing on Justice Kavanaugh's concurrence and the language of the 14th Amendment alongside the Civil Rights Act of 1866, he outlines a legislative roadmap he believes could produce a 5-4 Supreme Court decision in the other direction. The most revealing stretch of the conversation is personal. Schmitt describes the night his son Stephen, who has tuberous sclerosis, epilepsy, and autism, suffered a four-hour grand mal seizure. Watching a red digital clock above the ICU bed and waiting for doctors to try the next medication, Schmitt began a process of discernment that led him into public service. He credits Stephen with reshaping his perspective on what matters, driving his early push for autism insurance reform in the Missouri state legislature, and anchoring the bipartisan disability legislation he continues to pursue in the Senate today. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:30 The Congressional Baseball Game Catch 2:35 Kids React to Dad's Viral Moment 3:57 Protect College Sports Act Explained 6:55 Conversations with Conference Commissioners 8:28 Pooled Media Rights Strategy 9:51 Birthright Citizenship and the American Citizenship Act 11:57 Son Stephen and a Father's Mission 14:14 Families Who Have Reached Out 15:25 Working-Class Roots and Public Service 17:42 Bipartisan Hope in Washington 19:25 What He Wants His Kids to Remember 20:33 The Second Catch Nobody Saw 21:34 Closing Remarks Follow Us! X: https://x.com/13thandPark IG: https://www.instagram.com/13th_and_park/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/13thandpark TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@13th_and_park Follow Eric Schmitt X: https://x.com/SenEricSchmitt IG: https://www.instagram.com/senericschmitt/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SenEricSchmitt/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@senericschmitt Website: https://www.schmitt.senate.gov/ #ericschmitt #missouri #collegesports #nil #protectcollegesports #birthrightcitizenship #usssenate #collegeathlete #publicservice #congressionalbaseballgame #13thandpark #ballardpartners #politics2025 #bipartisan #studentathletes #adamgoodman

    Can Congress Save College Sports Before It's Too Late? Senator Eric Schmitt Says Yes | 13th & Park

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"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.

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