What Came Next

Broken Cycle Media

What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice? These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media. What Came Next is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B. Chesler. On What Came Next, you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.

  1. 1h ago

    [Josh Chesler] Rough Seas // Part 1

    Content warning: child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, pedophilia, intrafamilial sexual abuse, rape, mental illness, psychopathy, and murder. Josh Chesler is a survivor, entertainment professional, and general contractor from Northern California. Josh’s life started in the most unconventional of ways, when he was born on a boat to his captain father and his father’s two partners, and became part of a burgeoning sect of an already much larger family system. However, his unique upbringing was shrouded in isolation and secrecy; it would take Josh years to learn the whole story about his father’s criminal past and the harm he had caused in the wake of his abuse. And just when Josh had freed himself from his origin family and forged a new, more conventional, calmer home life, he was forced to fight for his family’s sanctity and peace again. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful that Josh was willing to share his story, advocacy, energy, and warmth with our audience in the following two episodes. Support Josh:- Josh's website: https://joshuachesler.com/- Josh's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/josh_knower_of_things/ Sources:   -"Child Molesting Trial Opens Here," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, December 10, 1957. - "Fort Bragg man held on morals counts," Newspapers.com, Ukiah Daily Journal, February 19, 1970. - "Jury Finds Man Sex Pyschopath," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, July 26, 1958. -"Jury Rules Man Guilty in Rape Case," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, December 13, 1957. - "Legal Actions Instigated on Damages," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, October 12, 1961. - "Missing Fishing Boat, Family OK" Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, July 21, 1966. - "No More Smooth Sailing," Newspapers.com, The Evening Sun, November 12, 1980. - “People v. Ross.” California Court of Appeal, Third Appellate District, 11 Mar. 1960, Cr. 3036. - "Ross Not Guilty," Newspapers.com, Mendocino Coast Beacon, July 24, 1970. - "Sexual Pyschopath," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, August 8, 1958. - "Withdraws Pleas of Insanity," Newspapers.com, The Times Standard, November 30, 1957. For a list of related sources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources And thank you again to Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to get 35% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.

  2. Nov 6

    [Joey Seifert] Only Joey Didn't Know

    Content warning: murder, gun violence, and organized crime. Joey Seifert is a survivor, co-victim of murder, author, producer, and filmmaker from Chicago, Illinois. At the young age of four, Joey’s journey was altered forever when his father - Daniel Seifert - was murdered by the mob. Joey’s youth was shrouded in secrecy as a result, and it would take him years to learn the truth about his father’s death, despite being a witness to it. It also would take thirty-three years for the Seifert family to see someone sentenced for Daniel’s murder, which came as a result of the FBI’s 2007 Family Secrets investigation and trial. Joey’s perspective of all that came next over the years is poignantly told in his book Deadly Associates & documentary The Chicago Mob: Deadly Associates. The Broken Cycle Media team is unendingly grateful that Joey was willing to share his time, energy, and vivacious spirit with our audience today. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Daniel Seifert.  Support Joey: Joey's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/liljoey74 Joey's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-9lAqi4XOAjwlUS5_gs7ow Joey's Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/37PmerWw4APfYHnALEniSg?si=455a7fabac3a44aa Joey's Book: https://tr.ee/ZpYfSAdLew The Chicago Mob: Deadly Associates: https://tubitv.com/movies/100000370/the-chicago-mob-deadly-associates Sources:  The Chicago Mob: Deadly Associates. Tubi, https://tubitv.com/movies/100000370/the-chicago-mob-deadly-associates “The Chicago Syndicate.” “Family Secrets Trial Highlights.” The Chicago Syndicate, 6 Sept. 2007, https://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2007/09/family-secrets-trial-highlights.html “Family Secrets: Of the Murderous Kind.” Federal Bureau of Investigation, 1 Oct. 2007, https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2007/october/famsecrets_100107 Seifert, Emma, Joe Seifert, Matthias McCarn, and Nick Seifert. Deadly Associates: A True Story of Murder, Survival, and Bringing Down the Chicago Mob. 2nd ed., WildBlue Press, 2021. https://tr.ee/ZpYfSAdLew Thank you again to Rula for sponsoring this episode. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

  3. Oct 30

    [Kurt Calabrese] I Am Fighting // Part 4

    Content warning: organized crime, murder, attempted murder, extortion, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and financial abuse, domestic violence, trafficking, mental illness, chronic post-traumatic stress disorder, suicidal ideation, and self-harm. Kurt Calabrese is a survivor, father, grandfather, and Chicago native whose life and family history have become the subject of many media productions. Kurt has shared his firsthand story in such outlets as ABC7 Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times, Soft White Underbelly, Gangland Wire, and the Underbelly: Killing Kurt podcast. It is Kurt’s goal to bring greater awareness to the lasting impact of childhood abuse and trauma, drawing from his own experiences to encourage conversations about healing, mental health, and breaking the cycle of abuse. His story offers a deeply personal perspective on the effects that violence within a family can have long after childhood ends,  and also highlights the impact a larger social system of organized crime has. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Kurt’s honesty, openness, and rawness over these next several episodes. Sources: - ABC7. “I-Team Report: The Other Calabrese.” ABC7 San Francisco, 9 Mar. 2011, https://abc7news.com/archive/8004554/ -“Inside a Chicago Mob Family with Kurt Calabrese.” Apple Podcasts, https://podcasts.apple.com/hn/podcast/inside-a-chicago-mob-family-with-kurt-calabrese/id984020877?i=1000705238688 - “Son of a mobster - Kurt Calabrese.” YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlRxsrc-Y-c -“Underbelly: Killing Kurt.” Apple Podcasts, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/underbelly-killing-kurt/id1680549673Follow Kurt: Kurt's Website: https://www.kurtcalabrese.com/ Kurt on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kurt.calabrese/ Kurt on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kurt.calabrese/If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.orgFor a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Jiyu Skin & Rula for sponsoring this episode. Jiyu Skin: the Korean skincare brand everyone is talking about. Our listeners get 20% off their entire order by using code WCN at jiyuskin.com/WCN #JIYU #ad And don't forget Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

  4. Oct 23

    [Kurt Calabrese] It Doesn't End // Part 3

    Content warning: organized crime, murder, attempted murder, extortion, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and financial abuse, domestic violence, trafficking, suicidal ideation, and self-harm. Kurt Calabrese is a survivor, father, grandfather, and Chicago native whose life and family history have become the subject of many media productions. Kurt has shared his firsthand story in such outlets as ABC7 Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times, Soft White Underbelly, Gangland Wire, and the Underbelly: Killing Kurt podcast. It is Kurt’s goal to bring greater awareness to the lasting impact of childhood abuse and trauma, drawing from his own experiences to encourage conversations about healing, mental health, and breaking the cycle of abuse. His story offers a deeply personal perspective on the effects that violence within a family can have long after childhood ends,  and also highlights the impact a larger social system of organized crime has. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Kurt’s honesty, openness, and rawness over these next several episodes. Sources: - “Hoax Bomb Shakes Trial.” Chicago Tribune, 20 June 2007, https://www.chicagotribune.com/2007/06/20/hoax-bomb-shakes-trial/ -“How a Son’s Betrayal Brought Down Chicago’s Mob.” NPR, 14 Mar. 2011, https://www.npr.org/2011/03/14/134425257/how-a-sons-betrayal-brought-down-chicagos-mob - “Jurors Claim Defendant Threatened Prosecutor During Mob Trial.” Courthouse News Service, https://www.courthousenews.com/jurors-claim-defendant-threatened-prosecutor-during-mob-trial/ - “Frank Calabrese Jr: Mobster Who Shopped His Dad to the FBI.” The Guardian, 25 Nov. 2011, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/25/frank-calabrese-jr-mobster-shopped-dad - “Verdict in ‘Family Secrets’ Trial: All Guilty.” ABA Journal, [publication date if available], https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/verdict_in_family_secrets_trial_all_guilty If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.orgFor a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Cash App & Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode.  Download Cash App today and make your money work for you. Click here to get started: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5] #CashAppPartner Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card (https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement), Sutton debit flex card (https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/debit-flex-card-agreement-sutton), and Bancorp debit flex card (https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/debit-flex-card-agreement-bancorp). Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. And don't forget for a new wireless plan starting at 15 bucks a month, go to MintMobile.com/wcn!

  5. Oct 16

    [Kurt Calabrese] How Do I Get Out of This Life? // Part 2

    Content warning: organized crime, murder, attempted murder, extortion, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and financial abuse, domestic violence, trafficking, suicidal ideation, and self-harm. Kurt Calabrese is a survivor, father, grandfather, and Chicago native whose life and family history have become the subject of many media productions. Kurt has shared his firsthand story in such outlets as ABC7 Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times, Soft White Underbelly, Gangland Wire, and the Underbelly: Killing Kurt podcast. It is Kurt’s goal to bring greater awareness to the lasting impact of childhood abuse and trauma, drawing from his own experiences to encourage conversations about healing, mental health, and breaking the cycle of abuse. His story offers a deeply personal perspective on the effects that violence within a family can have long after childhood ends,  and also highlights the impact a larger social system of organized crime has. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Kurt’s honesty, openness, and rawness over these next several episodes. If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.orgFor a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.

  6. Oct 9

    [Kurt Calabrese] Walking on Eggshells // Part 1

    Content warning: organized crime, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and financial abuse, domestic violence, trafficking, suicidal ideation, and self-harm. Kurt Calabrese is a survivor, father, grandfather, and Chicago native whose life and family history have become the subject of many media productions. Kurt has shared his firsthand story in such outlets as ABC7 Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times, Soft White Underbelly, Gangland Wire, and the Underbelly: Killing Kurt podcast. It is Kurt’s goal to bring greater awareness to the lasting impact of childhood abuse and trauma, drawing from his own experiences to encourage conversations about healing, mental health, and breaking the cycle of abuse. His story offers a deeply personal perspective on the effects that violence within a family can have long after childhood ends,  and also highlights the impact a larger social system of organized crime has. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Kurt’s honesty, openness, and rawness over these next several episodes. If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.org For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Rula for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod

  7. Oct 2

    Ep. 155 [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] The Justice I Was Denied // Part 2 - 12/19/2025

    Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder. As shared in part one of her story, Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years. Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Couragehttps://www.kellysk9s.org/Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/Kelly on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/IDtv's 'Toxic':https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/show/toxic-investigation-discovery-atve-usFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

  8. Oct 2

    Ep. 154 [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] A Fire in Me // Part 1 - 12/12/2025

    Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder. Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years. Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Couragehttps://www.kellysk9s.org/Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/Kelly on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn.

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What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice? These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media. What Came Next is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B. Chesler. On What Came Next, you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.

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