KindlED | The Prenda Podcast

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The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments through microschooling. Powered by Prenda, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle curiosity, motivation, and well-being in young learners. Do you have a question, topic, or story you'd like to share with us? Get in touch at podcast@prenda.com.

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 103: What If School Worked For Kids Again. A Conversation with Mickey Revenaugh.

    We talk with Mickey Revenaugh, co-founder of Connections Academy and author of Schools Out, about why families are walking away from one-size-fits-all schooling. We dig into microschools, homeschooling, unschooling, and what a future “portfolio” of education options could mean for kids’ learning and mental health.  • the origin story of Connections Academy and what early online learning got right and wrong  • what “unconventional education” includes and why the label “alternative” misses the point  • how families mix models over time rather than choosing one path for 13 years  • why many kids learn resilience and self-direction faster in multi-age environments  • shifting demographics in homeschooling and why old stereotypes no longer fit  • how the pandemic and culture-war pressures accelerate demand for flexible options  • why some districts are piloting microschools to respond to declining enrollment  • roadschooling and worldschooling as a lifestyle built on remote work and online tools  • unschooling basics, de-schooling, and the role of community support for parents  • a bold prediction that unconventional education reaches close to half of kids at some point  About our guest Mickey Revenaugh is an education innovator, thought-leader and journalist. She is the co-founder of Connections Academy, a ground-breaking K-12 online school provider that launched in 2001 and now serves more than 110,000 virtual school students around the world as part of Pearson. Prior to her retirement at the end of 2022, Mickey’s work focused on bringing emerging education opportunities such as Harrow School Online and Pearson Online Academy to families around the globe. Previously, Mickey helped launch the E-rate to wire every American school to the Internet, covered edtech and online learning for leading education publications, and was the editorial director of professional magazines at Scholastic. Mickey currently serves as Board Chair of Brooklyn Laboratory Charter School, winner of the $10M prize for innovative school design from XQ Institute, and also chairs the non-profit boards of Yellow Arrow Publishing and the Barbara J. Dreyer Cares Foundation. Mickey earned a dual-genre MFA from Bennington College in 2017, and her creative nonfiction and fiction work has since appeared in publications as diverse as Chautauqua, LA Review of Books, and VICE. Mickey also holds a BA from Yale University and an MBA from New York University. Connect with Mickey Mickey Revenaugh School's Out: Why Families Are Choosing Unconventional Education Connections Academy Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 103: What If School Worked For Kids Again. A Conversation with Mickey Revenaugh.
  2. Oct 1

    Episode 102: Raising Kids Who Can Change History. A Conversation with Latham Turner.

    We talk with Latham Turner about leaving a high-performing career to homeschool after watching his son’s love of reading collapse into daily tears and declining test scores. We trace the messy first months, the breakthroughs that follow, and why connection and agency can raise a child’s learning ceiling far beyond what school labels predict.  • Latham’s path from naval aviation and test pilot work to full-time homeschooling  • The warning signs at school, including morning crying and sliding standardized scores  • The moment teachers admit they cannot teach his child’s profile  • The first homeschool days, fear, missteps, and repairing trust after a meltdown  • Project-based learning through building a real airplane together  • Switching approaches when a rigid plan backfires  • Learning Greek for real, finding the right tutor, and reading The Odyssey in original Greek  • Connection, attachment, and the parent’s inner work as the unlock for learning  • Balancing direct instruction with discovery learning and student agency  • Using expertise research to think beyond grades and tests  • Practical guidance for parents starting out, including trusting instincts and iterating  About our guest Latham Turner is a homeschooling dad working to create an education that allows his kids to advance the frontier of their potential. In the past, he was a Naval Aviator, developmental test pilot, quantum computing engineer, startup operator, and entrepreneur, but he left all of them to start homeschooling his two kids. He brings a focus on expertise studies and his experience mastering the domains he has into writing about education as a human potential problem. Connect with Latham Substack Roots of Progress Institute Fellowship Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 102: Raising Kids Who Can Change History. A Conversation with Latham Turner.
  3. Sep 23

    Episode 101: Build A Career Without The College Default. A Conversation with Hannah Maruyama.

    We talk with Hannah Maruyama, founder of Degree Free, about why colleges don’t own education and why the “just go to college” default is failing many young adults. We break down how to plan a career path using real-life constraints, build skills through certifications and work, and decide when a degree is truly worth it. • Hannah’s personal break with college culture and conformity • The “escalator” model of schooling and why it shuts down curiosity • Separating education from career training and the cost of confusing them • Why many job “degree requirements” function as suggestions • How targeted certifications can unlock remote tech roles • The shift toward downcredentialing across industries • Why common college ROI statistics can hide debt and distort outcomes • The Degree Free Four filter: income, schedule, location, work environment • “Try before you buy” through real work before paying for credentials • Where to find Hannah’s workbooks and Degree Free support About our guest Hannah Maruyama is the founder of Degree Free and the author of The Degree Free Way. She built her own Degree Free career in AI and machine learning, and now helps parents and young adults think clearly about education, work, and career paths, especially when the old default of "just go to college" no longer fits. Connect with Hannah Degree Free Hannah’s Books Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 101: Build A Career Without The College Default. A Conversation with Hannah Maruyama.
  4. Jun 17

    Episode 100: Prenda: Looking Back, Looking Forward. A Conversation with Kaity and Kelly.

    We celebrate Episode 100 by digging into Kaity’s first year guiding a home microschool and what it teaches us about building belonging, agency, and high expectations. The big takeaway is that connection comes first, then kids can take on ambitious goals and grow into capable, self-governing learners. • celebrating Episode 100 and thanking guests, listeners, and the people who kindle learning  • Kaity’s KindlED shout-out to her mom and what lifelong learning looks like in real life  • why Kaity chose to start a microschool despite already training guides at Prenda  • designing the Wonder League culture so middle school feels safe and welcoming  • using simple rituals and messages to reinforce belonging and community norms  • guiding vs teaching and the “Mario Kart cloud guy” model for getting kids back on track  • balancing agency with boundaries so self-directed learning stays productive  • “start with heart” as the foundation for academics, behavior, and motivation  • setting ambitious but doable goals and recalculating plans together as a class  • coaching social skills, optimism, and civil debate through modeling and reflection  • piloting Prenda high school ideas to keep learning relevant and engaging Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 100: Prenda: Looking Back, Looking Forward. A Conversation with Kaity and Kelly.
  5. Jun 9

    Episode 99: School Choice Rhetoric and Arguments. A Conversation with Matt Frendewey.

    We draw a hard line between tweaking the school system and transforming it, starting with one idea: parents should hold the decision rights for their child’s education. We also test the biggest critiques of school choice against polling, program data, and real parent experiences with flexibility and accountability. • why “reform” misses the real problem and why transformation fits the moment  • what education freedom means in practice and how decision rights have flipped since COVID  • why families say they want different schools rather than “better” versions of the same model  • how microschools and homeschooling are growing and what customization makes possible  • what parents tell pollsters they want most and the size of the flexibility gap  • where ESAs and school choice policy are expanding across states and what demand looks like  • how to respond to claims about bankrupting public schools, fraud, waste, and accountability  • why switching schools can be stronger accountability than test-based systems  About our guest Matt Frendewey is the vice president of strategy at yes. every kid. Matt has over two decades of experience in strategic communications, which includes working as a senior advisor to the U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, and Gov. Jeb Bush at Foundation for Excellence in Education. A Michigan native, Matt spent eight years working for the Michigan Department of Attorney General, and has held various roles in both gubernatorial and presidential campaigns. Matt resides in Washington, D.C. with Jenn and their two dogs, and remains a loyal Detroit Tigers fan. Connect with Matt yes. every kid. Matt’s substack Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 99: School Choice Rhetoric and Arguments. A Conversation with Matt Frendewey.
  6. Jun 2

    Episode 98: Pluralism in American Education. A Conversation with Ashley Berner.

    We ask what it would take to stop treating public education as a zero-sum culture war and start funding many legitimate school models with shared expectations for quality. We trace how America became an outlier, then get specific about what knowledge-rich curriculum and real intellectual work can look like in classrooms and microschools. • educational pluralism as a tax-funded mosaic of school options held to a quality bar  • why the United States diverges from global norms in public education funding  • the 19th-century nativist backlash against Catholic schools and the myth of “neutral” common schools  • five philosophical arguments for pluralism, including justice, civic obligation, and the role of civil society  • how pluralism differs from today’s school choice politics and zero-sum thinking  • why skills-based instruction fails without background knowledge in history, geography, science, and literature  • what “joyful rigor” looks like, plus examples from charter schools, IB programs, and curriculum-aligned assessments  • why great materials often fail in practice, including low expectations and habit-driven lesson-making  • how to balance core shared content with curiosity, discussion, and student-driven deep dives  About our guest Ashley Berner is Director of the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy and Associate Professor of Education. Palgrave MacMillan released Pluralism and American Public Education: No One Way to School (2017), and Harvard Education Press released her new book, Educational Pluralism and American Democracy: How to Handle Indoctrination, Promote Exposure, and Rebuild America’s Schools, in April 2024. Ashley Berner has published dozens of journal articles, book chapters, op-eds, and a widely watched TedX talk on citizenship formation, academic outcomes, pluralism, and the political theories of education in different national contexts. She led the design of the Institute’s School Culture 360™ and ELA and Social Studies Knowledge Maps™. She represents the Institute’s work across the country and consults regularly with international, federal, and state-level agencies, non-governmental organizations, and school systems. Connect with Ashley Educational Pluralism and Democracy Pluralism and American Public Education The Myth of the Common School Separation of Church and State Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 98: Pluralism in American Education. A Conversation with Ashley Berner.
  7. May 6

    Episode 97: High Agency Learning Environments. A Conversation with Tyler Thigpen.

    We talk with Tyler Thigpen about building student agency through self-directed learning, and why kids thrive when they have purpose, strong relationships, and real choices. We dig into practical frameworks for families and educators who want to move beyond compliance without losing rigor or essential skills. • Tyler’s origin story and the mission to help kids flourish • Why boredom and drudgery persist in conventional classrooms • A clear definition of agency as skill, will, and goals • The DRIP pathway: desire, resourcefulness, initiative, persistence • Adult formation and unlearning control to become guides • How to think about a national “floor” plus deep personalization • Mastery transcripts as a portfolio and competency-based alternative to grades • Moving from external validation to intrinsic motivation in learners and adults • Freedom levels, consequences, and gradual release of autonomy • Helping kids “make deals with themselves” to build integrity and ownership About our guest Tyler grew up in Georgia and has worked in innovative district, private, and charter schools, as well as statewide and national nonprofits. Tyler is co-founder and CEO of The Forest School: An Acton Academy in Trilith, The Forest School Online, and the Institute for Self-Directed Learning. He is Academic Director at the University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education and a Guest Lecturer at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Connect with Tyler Institute for Self Directed Learning The Forest School @weareforestschool on Instagram @tylerthigpen on Instagram The Playbook for Self-directed Learning Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 97: High Agency Learning Environments. A Conversation with Tyler Thigpen.
  8. Apr 30

    Episode 96: Reconnecting to Joyful Learning. A Conversation with Meredith Reyes.

    We sit down with former public school teacher Meredith Reyes to unpack the moment burnout stopped being manageable and started being dangerous. She shares how moving states changed her working conditions overnight and how homeschooling helped her rebuild learning around safety, curiosity and mastery.  • Meredith’s path from lifelong “teacher kid” to ten-year public school veteran  • COVID-era boundary shifts that made teachers feel less valued  • IEP realities when supports do not match student needs  • Paperwork, assessments and required programs crowding out teaching time  • Class size pressure and why union protections mattered in California  • Texas culture shock: pay cut, longer days, extra events and unprotected prep  • The mental health spiral that led to a mid-year resignation  • An active shooter drill that felt real and reshaped school safety concerns  • Early homeschooling mistakes: recreating school at home  • De-schooling and building a flexible family rhythm for learning  • Inquiry-based learning and following rabbit holes on purpose  • Mixed-age co-op learning and why age grouping is a school construct  • Rethinking grades through mastery-based learning and repeated practice  • The value of conversation as assessment, not just worksheets  • Books and voices that helped, including Julie Bogart and The Brave Learner  • The teachers who kindled Meredith’s love of learning early on  About our guest Meredith Reyes is an experienced classroom teacher in both California and Texas. After years of teaching in public schools she decided to make the move to homeschool her own children. Meredith shares her journey on instagram as @thestringymama. Connect with Meredith The Stringy Mama Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message! About the podcast The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments. Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question? We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together! Important links: • Connect with us on social • Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool? Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

    Episode 96: Reconnecting to Joyful Learning. A Conversation with Meredith Reyes.
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The KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments through microschooling. Powered by Prenda, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle curiosity, motivation, and well-being in young learners. Do you have a question, topic, or story you'd like to share with us? Get in touch at podcast@prenda.com.

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