Sisters In Sobriety

Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen

You know that sinking feeling when you wake up with a hangover and think: “I’m never doing this again”? We’ve all been there. But what happens when you follow through? Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen can tell you, because they did it! They went from sisters-in-law, to Sisters in Sobriety. In this podcast, Sonia and Kathleen invite you into their world, as they navigate the ups and downs of sobriety, explore stories of personal growth and share their journey of wellness and recovery. Get ready for some real, honest conversations about sobriety, addiction, and everything in between. Episodes will cover topics such as: reaching emotional sobriety, how to make the decision to get sober, adopting a more mindful lifestyle, socializing without alcohol, and much more. Whether you’re sober-curious, seeking inspiration and self-care through sobriety, or embracing the alcohol-free lifestyle already… Tune in for a weekly dose of vulnerability, mutual support and much needed comic relief. Together...

  1. 3d ago

    Trapped Emotions, Alcohol Cravings, and the Heart Wall With Dr. Bradley Nelson

    Can unresolved emotional pain influence alcohol cravings, addictive behaviors, and the way the body experiences stress? In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia speaks with Dr. Bradley Nelson, holistic physician and bestselling author of The Emotion Code, The Body Code, and The Heart Code, about his approach to identifying and releasing what he calls “trapped emotions.” Why can someone understand a harmful pattern and still feel unable to change it? Could addiction be less about the substance itself and more about an attempt to soothe emotional pain? Dr. Nelson shares his perspective on the subconscious mind, biofeedback, muscle testing, alcohol cravings, and the “heart wall”—a protective emotional barrier he believes can form after heartbreak, grief, trauma, or loss. The conversation explores how emotions may go unprocessed, how present-day triggers can connect with earlier experiences, and why Dr. Nelson views symptoms as messages rather than root causes. He demonstrates the sway test, explains the Emotion Code chart, and describes his process for narrowing down an emotion, deciding whether more context is needed, and using a magnet or hand movement to release it. These practices are presented as Dr. Nelson’s energy-healing framework and are not a substitute for evidence-based medical, mental health, or addiction care. Dr. Nelson also opens up about the childhood experiences that shaped his path, including a serious case of measles, kidney disease, and an early encounter with holistic practitioners in rural Montana. He traces the journey from computer programmer to chiropractor and shares stories that led him to connect physical symptoms, heartbreak, compulsive behavior, and emotional healing—including accounts involving chronic pain, food cravings, and alcohol use. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. 00:00 — Dr. Bradley Nelson and the concept of trapped emotions 02:00 — Childhood healing experiences and belief in a higher power 05:00 — From computer programming to the healing arts 06:00 — Searching for the roots of patients’ symptoms 07:00 — Addiction as a response to emotional pain 09:00 — The subconscious mind as the body’s internal computer 11:00 — Muscle testing and yes-or-no biofeedback 13:00 — How emotions may become “trapped” in the body 16:00 — Emotional baggage, anxiety, PTSD, and addictive behavior 18:00 — The overflowing-glass metaphor for emotional pain 20:00 — How the “heart wall” may relate to addiction 22:00 — Why the heart is viewed as more than a pump 26:00 — A patient story connecting heartbreak and chronic neck pain 29:00 — Introducing the ring-in-ring method and sway test 36:00 — Using the Emotion Code chart to identify an emotion 38:00 — Closing an emotional “open loop” 42:00 — How emotional baggage may drive cravings 45:00 — A story about alcohol urges and releasing the heart wall 48:00 — True healing versus symptom relief 51:00 — A small next step and where to learn more Dr. Bradley's Links Instagram Website SIS Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Trapped Emotions, Alcohol Cravings, and the Heart Wall With Dr. Bradley Nelson
  2. Jul 27

    What Traditional Addiction Treatment Gets Wrong About Women With Dr. Stephanie Covington

    Addiction treatment has not always been designed with women in mind—and that can profoundly shape how women experience recovery. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia is joined by Dr. Stephanie S. Covington, internationally recognized clinician, author, and pioneer in addiction and trauma treatment, whose groundbreaking work includes A Woman’s Way Through the Twelve Steps, Helping Women Recover, Beyond Trauma, and Awaken Your Sexuality. Why do traditional addiction treatment and Twelve Step programs sometimes fail to reflect women’s actual experiences? How are trauma, relationships, sexuality, shame, and addiction connected? Dr. Covington examines why recovery can look different for women, what conventional relapse prevention may overlook, and why community and connection are so essential. She also discusses the gaps in addiction treatment within jails and prisons, the importance of continuity of care after incarceration, and why she prefers the term “criminal legal system” over “criminal justice system.” The conversation breaks down the relationship between childhood trauma, genetics, emotional development, substance use, and relapse. Dr. Covington explains when trauma and addiction may need to be treated simultaneously, the difference between trauma-informed, trauma-responsive, and trauma-specific care, and the powerful shift from asking “What’s wrong with you?” to “What happened to you?” She also offers a gender-responsive perspective on the Twelve Steps, reframing concepts like the Fourth Step in ways that can reduce shame and help women see themselves more clearly in recovery. Sonia also gets personal about working the Twelve Steps nearly nine years into sobriety, feeling disconnected from the male-centered language of traditional AA literature, dating and having sex sober for the first time, and navigating conversations around “Cali sober” and mindful substance use. Dr. Covington shares her own early experiment with moderation, why she has no desire to test whether she could drink again, and a surprisingly simple “green beans” test that can reveal just how much power alcohol or another substance has in someone’s life. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Highlights 00:01:00 – Meet Dr. Stephanie Covington and the personal recovery story behind her pioneering work 00:02:20 – What early addiction treatment and Twelve Step programs got wrong about women 00:03:35 – Why women-only recovery spaces can create greater safety and vulnerability 00:04:00 – Addiction, incarceration, and the lack of real treatment inside jails and prisons 00:06:00 – Medication-assisted treatment, Twelve Step access, and what is missing behind bars 00:07:00 – Why recovery community can be critical for successful reentry after incarceration 00:08:35 – Sonia shares that she is working the Twelve Steps nearly nine years into sobriety 00:09:20 – Why A Woman’s Way Through the Twelve Steps reframes recovery through women’s voices 00:10:00 – Reimagining the Fourth Step as a compassionate “spring cleaning” of the self 00:14:00 – Should AA literature change, and why Dr. Covington focuses on the Twelve Steps over the Big Book 00:16:00 – The Twelve Steps as tools for living, not simply tools for stopping drinking 00:17:00 – Why meetings, connection, and community strengthen long-term recovery 00:18:30 – How trauma and addiction become intertwined and why genetics is only part of the picture 00:21:00 – When trauma and addiction should be treated together rather than sequentially 00:23:30 – The three major relapse risks for women: trauma, relationships, and sexual issues 00:25:30 – Why childhood trauma can have a particularly profound developmental impact 00:28:00 – Big-T versus little-t trauma—and why comparing trauma can be misleading 00:30:00 – Relationships, sexuality, shame, and the overlooked realities of women’s recovery 00:33:00 – Sonia opens up about dating, intimacy, and having sex sober for the first time 00:37:00 – Trauma-informed, trauma-responsive, and trauma-specific care explained 00:39:00 – The origin and power of shifting from “What’s wrong with you?” to “What happened to you?” 00:44:00 – Cali sober, switching substances, moderation, and whether addiction can be “transcended” 00:49:30 – Dr. Covington shares her own failed experiment with having “just one” drink 00:50:30 – The 30-day experiment and the unforgettable “green beans” test for evaluating alcohol’s role Dr. Covington's Links https://www.stephaniecovington.com/ https://www.instagram.com/stephaniecovingtonofficial/ SIS Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    What Traditional Addiction Treatment Gets Wrong About Women With Dr. Stephanie Covington
  3. Jul 20

    How to Retrain Your Brain for Joy in Addiction Recovery With Dr. Eric Garland

    Addiction can gradually disconnect people from the ordinary pleasures, relationships and experiences that once made life meaningful. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen help make the science of addiction recovery practical and accessible with Dr. Eric Garland, a clinical researcher, psychotherapist and leading expert in mind-body therapies for addiction and chronic pain. Dr. Garland is the developer of Mindfulness-Oriented Recovery Enhancement, or MORE, an evidence-based treatment that combines mindfulness, cognitive behavioural therapy and positive psychology. Why do alcohol and other addictive substances begin to feel more rewarding than everyday life? How are addiction, chronic pain, depression, anxiety and trauma connected? Dr. Garland explains how substance use changes the brain’s dopamine and reward systems, why cravings can become automatic, and how mindfulness can create a pause between an urge and an action. He also discusses relapse prevention, emotional pain, moderation, harm reduction and the role of meditation in 12-step recovery. The conversation breaks down the three pillars of MORE: mindfulness, cognitive reappraisal and savoring. Dr. Garland explains how mindfulness strengthens attention and awareness, how reappraisal helps people examine the consequences of their choices, and how savoring retrains the brain to experience pleasure from ordinary moments. He also shares techniques for observing cravings, “playing the tape forward,” rebuilding natural reward and using the STOP practice before engaging in an addictive behaviour. Sonia reflects on how rediscovering simple pleasures and developing new hobbies contributed to a profound identity shift in her own sobriety. Dr. Garland shares how his personal mindfulness practice shaped his career, why recovery can involve transcending an addiction-based identity, and how people can reconnect with meaning, joy and a version of themselves that is larger than any craving, painful feeling or past behaviour. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Highlights 00:00 Dr. Eric Garland and the MORE approach 02:00 How mindfulness shaped Dr. Garland’s career 04:10 Addiction, chronic pain and the loss of natural reward 07:00 Clinical research and the effectiveness of MORE 08:00 Reducing relapse, cravings, pain and emotional distress 10:00 Why people use substances to escape pain 12:00 Mindfulness, reappraisal and savoring 15:00 How addiction hijacks the dopamine reward system 18:20 Practical ways to relearn pleasure in recovery 20:00 The mindfulness loop and strengthening attention 23:00 Recognizing triggers and automatic cravings 25:00 Zooming into the physical experience of a craving 28:00 Playing the tape forward through cognitive reappraisal 30:20 Mindfulness, pain and emotional bypassing 32:00 What traditional addiction treatments may be missing 34:00 Finding reward in coffee, birdsong and everyday moments 40:00 Sobriety, identity change and self-transcendence 43:00 MORE, the 12 steps and responding to a lapse 46:00 Harm reduction, moderation and opioid treatment 49:00 The STOP practice for interrupting automatic behaviour 53:00 Expanding MORE through training, community and technology Dr. Garland's Links www.moretherapy.com https://apps.apple.com/us/app/more-therapy/id6761741739   SIS Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    How to Retrain Your Brain for Joy in Addiction Recovery With Dr. Eric Garland
  4. Jul 13

    Past Lives, Hypnosis, and Healing the Patterns We Carry With Boris W

    What if the parts of you that feel stuck, afraid, or hard to explain are connected to something deeper than this lifetime? In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen explore hypnosis, identity, past lives, intergenerational trauma, and spiritual healing with Boris Walter, a Psychotherapeutic Consultant specializing in parallel metaphysical phenomena, commonly referred to as past lives, and founder of the Consciousness Integration Collective. Boris helps people locate their inner authority by remembering who they are beneath fear, protection, and conditioning. Boris shares how his path moved from offshore oil and gas work into psychotherapy, hypnotherapy, altered states of consciousness, and spiritual exploration. Together, Sonia and Kathleen ask: What is the difference between personality, identity, and the true self? Can hypnosis help people access parts of themselves that ordinary talk therapy cannot reach? Are past life memories literal, symbolic, or both? And how do fear, shame, family trauma, and old protective patterns keep people disconnected from their own inner knowing? This conversation opens up a grounded but expansive discussion of the ego, the unconscious mind, hypnosis, higher consciousness, and the ways trauma can live in the body. Boris explains how hypnosis can soften the grip of the ego, move people beyond the social mask, and allow them to access imagery, emotion, memory, and meaning that may not be available through conscious thought alone. He also explores the idea that healing is not always about proving whether an experience is “real,” but about understanding the themes, emotions, and false beliefs that are asking to be transformed. In the personal story portion of the episode, Boris reflects on the childhood experiences, family dynamics, spiritual encounters, and early client sessions that shaped his work. Kathleen also shares her own powerful experience in Egypt and the unexpected emotions that surfaced during the conversation. The episode moves into a deeper discussion of ancestral memory, intergenerational trauma, Indigenous history, and the possibility that healing may involve not only this lifetime, but the wider field of family, body, spirit, and consciousness. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. [00:01:00] Boris shares the unexpected path that took him from offshore oil and gas work into psychotherapy. [00:02:00] Why money, success, and a “good job” still left Boris feeling unfulfilled. [00:03:00] Boris explains how wanting to understand himself and his mother’s mental health led him toward psychology. [00:04:00] Kathleen relates to Boris’s career change and the feeling of being called into therapy work. [00:06:00] Boris discusses childhood wounding, ego compensation, and finding work that is no longer driven by the wounded self. [00:07:00] Why traditional talk therapy felt incomplete to Boris, and what he believed was missing. [00:09:00] Boris explains why he became interested in altered states of consciousness and experiences that transcend the mind. [00:10:00] The first client experience that introduced Boris to past life material and higher-self perspectives. [00:12:00] Kathleen asks whether Boris was spiritual before these experiences began appearing in his work. [00:13:00] Boris describes his early fascination with paranormal activity and parapsychology. [00:14:00] Boris shares a profound DMT experience that changed his understanding of divinity, purpose, and love. [00:17:00] How client sessions began shifting Boris’s personal spiritual practices and relationship with his body. [00:18:00] Kathleen asks whether there is such a thing as a “true self.” [00:20:00] Boris explains personality as a social mask and identity as a structure that creates stability. [00:24:00] Kathleen asks what hypnosis is and what happens in the brain during a hypnotic state. [00:26:00] Boris breaks down beta, alpha, and theta brainwave states and how hypnosis creates openness. [00:29:00] Boris explains how hypnosis can help people access higher-self perspectives, guides, past lives, and deeper emotional material. [00:34:00] Kathleen asks whether past life experiences should be understood as literal, symbolic, or something else. [00:41:00] Kathleen shares her own powerful experience in Egypt and the theme of feminine power that emerged. [00:49:00] Kathleen asks about intergenerational trauma, Indigenous clients, residential schools, and inherited memory.   Boris' Links Website: https://www.boriswalter.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boriswalterofficial   SIS Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Past Lives, Hypnosis, and Healing the Patterns We Carry With Boris W
  5. Jul 6

    High-Functioning Addiction: When Coping Becomes the Problem With Dr. Blair

    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores the hidden patterns behind addiction, emotional dysregulation, self-sabotage, and high-functioning survival mode. She is joined by Dr. Blair Steel, a licensed clinical psychologist whose career has focused on resilience, substance abuse treatment, and helping people understand how they either transcend adversity or become trapped in negative cycles. Dr. Steel’s background includes training at Beit T’Shuvah, working as a primary therapist at Cliffside Malibu, serving as Program Director at Passages Malibu, and maintaining a private practice. She is currently a clinical supervisor at pH Wellness and part of the clinical team at Carrara Wellness Treatment & Spa, with writing featured in outlets including The Huffington Post, CNBC, and Well + Good. Together, Sonia and Dr. Steel unpack why addiction is often more complicated than a simple bad habit or lack of willpower. They discuss what it means to view emotional and behavioral patterns as protective rather than defective, and why alcohol or substances can become a way to regulate depression, anxiety, social discomfort, trauma, identity loss, or overwhelm. The conversation looks at the progression from drinking as something that feels magical, to something medicinal, to something miserable — and how to recognize when substance use has become a private coping mechanism instead of a shared ritual or choice. Dr. Steel brings a compassionate, clinically grounded perspective to high-functioning addiction, perfectionism, shame, cultural programming, and emotional avoidance. She explains why shame rarely creates lasting change, why internal motivation matters in long-term sobriety, and how “pattern solving” can be more useful than problem solving. Sonia and Dr. Steel also explore AA, community, social media, therapy, psychedelics, ketamine, antidepressants, labels, self-regulation, and the difference between being alcohol-free and identifying as sober. In the personal story segment, Sonia shares her experience of being a high-functioning alcoholic while working as an orthodontist, running a large practice, and holding a professional license. She reflects on selling her business, the identity loss that followed, her fear of having too much unstructured time, and the realization that sobriety was not just about removing alcohol — it was about building a new life. Sonia and Dr. Steel also discuss the grief of letting go of old identities, the pressure to appear put together, and the moment when the “party” has often been over long before someone finally stops drinking. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Highlights [00:01:00] Dr. Blair Steel introduces her work as a clinical psychologist and how she entered the addiction treatment field. [00:02:00] Blair explains why she sees patterns as protective rather than defective. [00:03:00] Sonia reflects on how alcohol once helped her survive severe depression and anxiety. [00:04:00] Blair discusses why substances can work temporarily before they begin taking more than they give. [00:05:00] Sonia and Blair talk about shame, blame, fear, and why shame is not motivating. [00:06:00] Blair introduces the idea of pattern solving instead of problem solving. [00:07:00] Sonia connects cultural expectations, self-care, and the pressure to push through pain. [00:08:00] Blair explains how alcohol can maintain a disconnect between the head and the heart. [00:09:00] Blair discusses the disease model of addiction and why she does not approach people as “sick.” [00:10:00] Sonia asks why addiction and mood disorders so often go hand in hand. [00:11:00] Blair shares the phrase “magical, medicinal, then miserable” to describe the progression of alcohol use. [00:12:00] Blair explains why she prefers “problematic” and “non-problematic” substance use over “healthy” alcohol use. [00:13:00] Sonia and Blair discuss psychedelics, ketamine, and the risks for people who tend to reach for substances. [00:16:00] Blair validates Sonia’s self-awareness around knowing what is risky for her sobriety. [00:17:00] Blair shares her view of AA, community, interpretation, and why connection matters. [00:18:00] Sonia asks how addiction shows up differently in high-functioning people. [00:20:00] Sonia shares her experience as a high-functioning alcoholic with a professional license. [00:23:00] Sonia reflects on losing her identities as wife, orthodontist, and business owner. [00:29:00] Blair explains the difference between external motivation and internal motivation in long-term sobriety. [00:43:00] Blair offers a first step for anyone feeling stuck: set a small, short-term, attainable goal and get honest about what happens.   Dr. Blair's Links Instagram   SIS LINKS 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack– where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s WebsiteKathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    High-Functioning Addiction: When Coping Becomes the Problem With Dr. Blair
  6. Jun 29

    Why Goal Setting Isn’t Working — and What to Do Instead With Danielle M

    Feeling flat, burned out, or disconnected after doing everything “right” can be confusing—especially for high-achieving women who are used to setting goals, checking boxes, and pushing through. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia speaks with Danielle McGeough, a professor, speaker, transformation strategist, host of the Plan Goal Plan podcast, and creator of the RISE Ritual Method. Danielle helps high-performing women and teams reconnect with their core identities, navigate transitions, and create intentional plans that support sustainable growth. Sonia and Danielle explore what happens when ambition starts to feel empty, why burnout and demoralization are not the same thing, and how women can begin redefining success after a major life shift. They look at the difference between productivity and purpose, how planning can become a tool for self-discovery, and why so many people turn rest, wellness, sobriety, or even creativity into another pressure-filled checklist. The conversation also asks: How do goals change when identity changes? How can ritual help with habit change? And what does it mean to build a life that feels aligned instead of simply impressive? Danielle breaks down the difference between habits, routines, and rituals, explaining why habits are meant to become automatic while rituals are designed to bring people back into presence and meaning. She shares how rituals can help shift someone from one state to another, whether that is from work mode into home mode, from reactive parenting into calm connection, or from “gap thinking” into recognizing the gains already made. The episode also touches on consistency, flexibility, all-or-nothing thinking, moderation, replacement rituals, early sobriety, and the power of adding a little “ish” to the places where perfectionism has taken over. In the personal story segment, Sonia opens up about redefining success after selling her orthodontic practice, writing her book, and noticing how easily her own ambition can turn hobbies, healing, and self-growth into another metric to master. Danielle shares how her own experience of burnout, motherhood, demoralization, and identity loss led her to rethink planning as something deeper than time management. Together, they explore how alcohol can function as a transition ritual, why letting go of that ritual can involve grief, and how new rituals can help support identity change in sobriety and beyond. Highlights [00:01:00] Danielle introduces herself as a mom, professor, and “ritual nerd.” [00:02:00] Danielle shares how achievement, habits, and hard work helped her earn a PhD and tenure—but left her feeling flat. [00:03:00] The conversation turns to burnout, anxiety, rumination, and realizing something needed to shift. [00:05:00] Danielle explains how decorative planning and stickers unexpectedly helped her slow down and reflect. [00:07:00] Danielle defines the difference between burnout and demoralization. [00:08:00] Sonia asks how demoralization changed Danielle’s relationship with goals and ambition. [00:09:00] Danielle describes bitterness, numbness, resentment, and the desire to disconnect. [00:11:00] Danielle reflects on using novels, Netflix, and over-exercising as ways to avoid her own feelings. [00:12:00] Sonia asks how Danielle’s identity had to evolve beyond career, wife, and mother roles. [00:14:00] Danielle reframes planning as a way to collect data about values, priorities, and self-connection. [00:15:00] Danielle explains the difference between habits and rituals. [00:16:00] Danielle shares why rituals are powerful tools for identity change. [00:17:00] Danielle explains the RISE Ritual Method through the story of “Safe Place Sarah.” [00:20:00] Danielle describes how her research on collective rituals helped shape her personal ritual framework. [00:22:00] Danielle explains why traditional goal-setting can feel too abrupt for women who are disconnected from their desires. [00:24:00] Sonia opens up about redefining success after selling her orthodontic practice. [00:29:00] Sonia and Danielle discuss turning sobriety, wellness, rest, and hobbies into productivity projects. [00:32:00] Danielle introduces the idea that change may begin with intensity but is maintained by consistency. [00:36:00] Danielle reframes consistency as shortening the gap between “oops” and starting again. [00:44:00] Sonia and Danielle explore how alcohol can become a transition ritual, and how replacement rituals can support early sobriety. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Danielle's Links Website Instagram   SIS LINKS 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack– where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s WebsiteKathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸

    Why Goal Setting Isn’t Working — and What to Do Instead With Danielle M
  7. Jun 22

    Why Successful Women Get Stuck in the Same Relationship Patterns With Riana M

    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Riana Malia explore how old relationship patterns, identity shifts, and unconscious beliefs can keep women stuck in cycles that no longer match the lives they are trying to build. Riana is a board-certified neuro-somatic practitioner whose work helps women break long-standing relational patterns and create deeper, more authentic connection. They look at what happens when women have done the inner work, moved through sobriety, divorce, reinvention, or major life transitions, and are ready for relationships that reflect who they are now — not who they used to be. The conversation opens up big questions about why high-achieving women can be so successful, strategic, and clear in their careers, yet still feel confused or stuck in love, dating, friendships, family dynamics, or partnership. Why do the same patterns keep repeating? What is the difference between knowing a pattern intellectually and actually releasing it from the body? How do childhood beliefs, unconscious programming, and old identities shape the way women choose, attach, perform, shrink, over-function, or settle in relationships? Riana explains how neuroscience, somatic awareness, identity work, and emotional release come together in her Clear to Create method. She talks about clearing old stories, cycles, resentment, loss, limiting beliefs, and emotional charge so that women can create confidence, partnership, love, and a life that feels aligned. The episode also explores why “I don’t want this anymore” can still keep attention fixed on the very thing someone is trying to avoid, how the unconscious mind drives so many relationship patterns, and why replacing old neurology matters just as much as understanding it. Riana also shares practical tools, including her “Magnet for Miracles” exercise and a 72-hour rubber-band practice designed to interrupt negative thought loops and redirect attention toward what is actually desired. Riana shares the life experiences that shaped her work — growing up with a distant father, being forced to become resourceful at 18, entering a lonely young marriage, navigating a painful divorce, moving across the country, losing financial security, and eventually finding herself in a relationship that became her line-in-the-sand moment. Her story traces the path from survival and self-abandonment to clarity, self-trust, and becoming available for a different kind of love. She also shares how doing this work changed her own life and helped her become ready for the healthy partnership she once thought would never happen for her. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Highlights [00:01:00] Riana Malia is introduced as a board-certified neuro-somatic practitioner helping women break old relationship patterns. [00:02:00] Riana shares the early experience of being left without college housing support and learning how to become resourceful. [00:03:00] She describes getting three jobs, renting a house, and staying in school despite having no clear path forward. [00:04:00] Riana talks about marrying young, feeling lonely in marriage, and becoming a mother. [00:05:00] She opens up about the fear, anger, and volatility that followed her divorce. [00:06:00] Riana explains the decision to move to California despite every instinct telling her not to. [00:08:00] She recounts the DEA investigation that upended her life and froze the assets she was relying on. [00:09:00] Riana describes choosing to stay in California to keep her promise to her daughter. [00:10:00] She shares the “never again” moment that led her to stop shrinking, performing, and abandoning herself in relationships. [00:11:00] Riana introduces her Clear to Create method and explains why people have to clear old stories before creating a new life. [00:12:00] She explains how unconscious patterns keep people repeating the same relationships, jobs, money patterns, or family dynamics. [00:14:00] Riana talks about becoming ready to receive healthy love after clearing old toxic patterns. [00:16:00] She uses a dinner order metaphor to explain why clarity, specificity, values, desires, and non-negotiables matter. [00:18:00] Riana explains why high-achieving women can feel confident at work but stuck in relationships. [00:19:00] She breaks down the conscious and unconscious mind using the 10% and 90% framework. [00:22:00] Riana compares old identities and beliefs to expired pantry items that need to be cleared out. [00:24:00] She explains the difference between becoming aware of a pattern and actually replacing the neurology behind it. [00:31:00] Riana shares the bridge metaphor for stepping into a new identity that matches who someone is becoming. [00:39:00] Sonia asks about manifestation, and Riana reframes it through neuroscience, frequency, and attention. [00:43:00] Riana walks through the “Magnet for Miracles” exercise using the away wall, toward wall, and 72-hour rubber band practice. Riana's Links 🌐 Website https://rianamalia.com/ SIS LINKS 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack– where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s WebsiteKathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Why Successful Women Get Stuck in the Same Relationship Patterns With Riana M
  8. Jun 8

    Sonia Does The Steps: Step 3 - From Willpower to Willingness

    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen continue the 12-step series with Arlina Allen for a real, funny, and deeply honest conversation about Step Three: making a decision to turn will and life over to a higher power. Arlina helps unpack the language that can feel intimidating, especially the “God” part, and reframes Step Three as a practice of willingness, surrender, and learning to stop doing recovery alone. The conversation explores what it means to move from willpower to willingness, why “trying harder” often keeps people stuck, and how dependence on a higher power can actually create more freedom. Sonia and Arlina talk about abstinence, moderation, self-will, fear, control, family triggers, difficult conversations, and the emotional gymnastics of wondering whether there is an “easier, softer way” to stay sober. Along the way, they make Step Three feel practical and human. They discuss the difference between surrender and giving up, how intuition can show up as peace, why self-care is part of spiritual practice, and how resentment becomes a bridge into Step Four. The episode also touches on the Serenity Prayer, direct communication, emotional responsibility, and the inventory process: naming resentments, identifying how they affect self-esteem, security, relationships, and fear, and beginning to see one’s own patterns without collapsing into shame. In the personal story segment, Sonia reflects on the relief and grief of realizing that full abstinence is the easier, softer way for her, even when part of her wishes she could use substances differently. Arlina shares how old family patterns, friendship endings, people-pleasing, and “everybody hates me” thinking still show up after decades of sobriety—and how connection, gratitude, honest conversations, and returning to practice help bring her back to peace. This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources. Highlights [00:01:00] Sonia explains why Step Two felt like a mental hurdle. [00:03:00] Arlina reads Step Three and reframes it through willingness. [00:04:00] The set-aside prayer opens the door to new information. [00:05:00] Sonia shares when she finally became willing to consider abstinence. [00:06:00] Dependence on a higher power becomes independence of spirit. [00:08:00] Step Three is not abdicating responsibility. [00:09:00] Arlina explains ego, intuition, and the quiet voice of peace. [00:12:00] Outside perspective helps interrupt the silo of self-will. [00:14:00] Family triggers reveal old default settings. [00:16:00] Arlina checks self-care when “nobody likes me” thinking returns. [00:18:00] Sonia reflects on learning to treat herself like a precious object. [00:21:00] Recovery as a practice, not a one-time achievement. [00:23:00] “Ish” and dimmer switches offer a gentler view of consistency. [00:24:00] Arlina defines self-will as fear, control, and self-centeredness. [00:27:00] Love versus fear becomes a simple spiritual gut check. [00:30:00] Letting go of a friendship becomes an act of self-respect. [00:33:00] Sonia connects with “no easier, softer way.” [00:36:00] Running the experiment again is no longer necessary. [00:39:00] Resentments become the bridge into Step Four. [00:48:00] The Serenity Prayer becomes a tool for emotional disturbance and indecision. Arlina's Links 🌐 www.soberlifeschool.com 📸 Instagram: @arlinaallen | @odaatpodcast SIS Links 💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen 📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email 📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram 🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast 📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Sonia Does The Steps: Step 3 - From Willpower to Willingness
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You know that sinking feeling when you wake up with a hangover and think: “I’m never doing this again”? We’ve all been there. But what happens when you follow through? Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen can tell you, because they did it! They went from sisters-in-law, to Sisters in Sobriety. In this podcast, Sonia and Kathleen invite you into their world, as they navigate the ups and downs of sobriety, explore stories of personal growth and share their journey of wellness and recovery. Get ready for some real, honest conversations about sobriety, addiction, and everything in between. Episodes will cover topics such as: reaching emotional sobriety, how to make the decision to get sober, adopting a more mindful lifestyle, socializing without alcohol, and much more. Whether you’re sober-curious, seeking inspiration and self-care through sobriety, or embracing the alcohol-free lifestyle already… Tune in for a weekly dose of vulnerability, mutual support and much needed comic relief. Together...

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