Trail Break Radio

Winter Wildlands Alliance
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Trail Break Radio, the Winter Wildlands Alliance podcast, takes you beyond the well-trodden path, delving into diverse topics shaping our commitment to protect America’s wild snowscapes. From promoting equitable outdoor access to sharing tales of adventure, we offer fresh insights into recreating on and stewarding our cherished wild spaces. Join the dialogue with experts in public lands management, policy, ecology, and activism, echoing the grassroots spirit that defines Winter Wildlands Alliance.

  1. Aug 14

    Project 2035: Mapping the Future of Winter, One Community At a Time

    When people want very different experiences from the same winter landscape, can a map help them find common ground? Winter travel plans determine where snowmobiles and other over-snow vehicles may travel on public lands—and where areas are managed for quieter, non-motorized recreation, wildlife, and other resources. In this episode, panelists draw on examples from Idaho, Colorado, and Montana to explore how local collaboration can shape fair, durable plans, even as federal capacity and the policies guiding that work become increasingly uncertain. The conversation was moderated by Winter Wildlands Alliance Executive Director David Page, who died unexpectedly in July 2026. We are deeply grateful to share David’s voice and to hear him doing what he did so well: asking thoughtful questions, bringing people together, and imagining a better future for public lands. We dedicate this episode to his memory. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: This episode was recorded at the Grassroots Advocacy Conference in September 2025. Since then, the Rio Grande National Forest in Colorado has released its Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for winter travel management and completed a public comment period. While some of the discussion in this episode reflects an earlier stage of the process, planning on the Rio Grande National Forest is actively moving forward. SPEAKERS: Brittany Leffel, Colorado Policy Manager, Winter Wildlands AllianceLynn Padgett, Commissioner, Ouray County, ColoradoZach Angstead, Federal Legislative Director, Wild MontanaModerator: David Page, Executive Director, Winter Wildlands Alliance RESOURCES Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center What Is Winter Travel Management? Change Is an Endurance Sport: 25 Years of Winter Wildlands Alliance Rio Grande National Forest Draft Winter Travel Plan Rio Grande National Forest Over-Snow Travel Management Project Kootenai Winter Travel Collaborative Ouray Regional Recreation and Conservation Alliance Colorado Outdoor Regional Partnerships Initiative CREDITS Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily Scott Edited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers featuring Kerry McClay Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  2. Jun 4

    Getting There: Sustainable Winter Access for All

    Public lands are for everyone, but not everyone can access them. In winter, that gap only grows. From finding a place to park, to affording gear, to knowing what’s safe—winter recreation comes with real barriers. And for many communities, those barriers go far beyond logistics. So what does it actually take to make winter access possible for all? Across the country, organizations are working to open the door through new partnerships, community-led programs, and rethinking what access really means. Because access isn’t just about getting people outside—it’s about connection. The more people connect with wild places, the more they’ll care about them and fight to protect them. SPEAKERS:  Cal’ Smith, Director of Winter Programming, Climbers of ColorMegan Fiske, California Stewardship Director, Winter Wildlands AllianceWill Russack, Board of Directors, Cascade Backcountry Alliance Anthony Cupaiuolo, Executive Director Tahoe Backcountry AllianceModerator: Kerry McClay, WWA National Snowschool Program Director at Winter Wildlands Alliance RESOURCES: Winter Wildlands Alliance SnowSchool Climbers of Color Tahoe Backcountry Alliance Cascade Backcountry Alliance Find your local Winter Wildlands Alliance Grassroots Group SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers,University of Washington’s Pack Forest, and Mountain Training Center CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily Scott Edited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay Additional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  3. May 8

    Show Me the Money! Paying the Cost for Public Lands

    Outdoor recreation on public lands is booming, but the funding to manage those lands is shrinking. As maintenance backlogs grow and budgets vital for outdoor recreation, public lands and waters tighten— the question is dire: will anyone bear the cost of managing public lands? And what happens if no one does? As federal funding falters, states, nonprofits, and local communities are stepping in. But is that a sustainable solution—or does it fundamentally reshape what national public lands are meant to be? SPEAKERS:  Betsy Robblee, Conservation and Advocacy Director, The Mountaineers John Garder, Senior Director of Budget & Appropriations, National Parks Conservation Alliance Dan Gibbs, Executive Director, Colorado Department of Natural Resources Moderator: Garrett Brennan, Raven Analytics + Three Pin Strategy RESOURCES: ⁠⁠Great American Outdoors Act Land And Water Conservation Fund America the Beautiful Act National Parks Conservation Association Keep Colorado Wild Pass Outdoor Alliance  ⁠⁠Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center⁠ SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers, and University of Washington’s Pack Forest. CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily ScottEdited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClayAdditional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  4. Apr 9

    Big Enough for the Both of Us? Balancing Recreation and Wildlife Habitat

    With winter recreation and mountain town populations booming, more people are recreating in sensitive wildlife habitat. That raises a tricky question: when land managers decide to close a trail or restrict access, and what evidence do they use to make that call? Often, those decisions rely on research from studies done somewhere else, in different places with different conditions. And that can make it difficult for land managers and wildlife advocates to explain those decisions to the public. It also leads to some bigger questions. Is there such a thing as enough wildlife habitat? Is there such a thing as enough trails and outdoor access? What about “enough” trails or outdoor recreation access? And, how do we balance these sometimes-competing uses of public lands? SPEAKERS:  Cal Waichler, Project Coordinator, ⁠Cascades Wolverine Project⁠ Joel Sisolak, Lands Planning and Recreation Manager, ⁠Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife⁠ Trevor Kostanich, AMGA-certified ⁠ski guide⁠ and author Moderator: Kurt Hellman, Wildlife-Recreation Coexistence Senior Coordinator, ⁠Conservation Northwest⁠ RESOURCES: ⁠Cascades Wolverine Project⁠⁠⁠⁠Community Observations Map⁠⁠WolverineWatch.org⁠Conservation Northwest⁠⁠"Your Stoke Won't Save Us"Wintering Wildlife Conservation Initiative ⁠Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog⁠⁠⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers, and University of Washington’s Pack Forest. CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily ScottEdited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClayAdditional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  5. Mar 25

    Indigenous Leadership in Public Lands Stewardship

    We often talk about public lands as playgrounds. But for many tribal nations, these places are homelands. Outdoor recreation is growing. Trailheads are full. Alpine lakes see record visitation. Social media drives more people to once-quiet places. And while that growth is a testament to how much people love wild places, it can come with real consequences. For tribal nations across Washington State, increased recreation on public lands directly impacts ancestral lands, treaty-protected rights, and the wildlife and ecosystems tribes have stewarded for generations. How do we balance growing outdoor recreation with Tribal sovereignty, cultural access, and stewardship of ancestral lands? As recreation expands, how do we move forward responsibly? SPEAKERS:  Libby Nelson, Sr. Environmental Policy Analyst, Tulalip TribesSarah Ballew, External Affairs Program Manager, Snoqualmie TribeEzekiel Rohloff, Wildlife Biologist, Snoqualmie TribeJoel Sisolak, Lands Planning and Recreation Manager, Washington Department of Fish & WildlifeModerator: Betsy Robblee, Conservation and Advocacy Director, The Mountaineers RESOURCES: The Recreation Boom on Public Lands in Western Washington: Impacts to Wildlife and Implications for Treaty TribesSnoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands MovementState Tribal Recreation Impact Initiative (STRI)⁠⁠Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance⁠⁠⁠⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog⁠⁠ SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers, and University of Washington’s Pack Forest. CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily ScottEdited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClayAdditional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  6. Mar 10

    Avalanche Forecasting in a Time of Uncertainty

    Avalanche forecasts are one of the most trusted safety tools in winter recreation and travel. Built daily by professionals who wake before dawn, dig into the snowpack, analyze storms, track wind, and translate complex data into clear public guidance that shapes life-or-death decisions for as many as 30 million people. But can avalanche forecasting survive the current administration? How stable is the system that keeps us informed (and alive) in the backcountry? SPEAKERS:  Caroline Miller, Executive Director of the Utah Avalanche Center David Reichel, Executive Director of the Sierra Avalanche CenterScott Schell, Executive Director of the Northwest Avalanche CenterBrody Leven, professional chairlift-free adventure skier (moderator) RESOURCES: ⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center⁠ ⁠Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance⁠⁠Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog⁠Find Your Local Avalanche Center SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers, and University of Washington’s Pack Forest. CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily ScottEdited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClayAdditional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  7. Feb 4

    Public Lands From the Ground Up: Where Do We Go From Here?

    The agencies charged with managing our federal public lands have been deeply understaffed and chronically underfunded for decades—even before the current administration’s chainsaw approach to government. Many in the public have long been frustrated with the perceived complexity and inefficiency of public process and decision-making. Now, in the wake of the deepest cuts in the history of America’s public lands, are there silver linings for the future? Are there (or will there be) opportunities for legitimate reform that might actually improve the ways that public lands agencies balance sustainable recreation management with resource protection and conservation? SPEAKERS:  Susan Jane Brown, Principal & Chief Legal Counsel, Silvix ResourcesHilary Eisen, Federal Policy Director, Wild MontanaMegan Birzell, Washington State Director, The Wilderness SocietyModerator: Fitz Cahall, Dirtbag Diaries RESOURCES: ⁠Travel Management Rule⁠ Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers,University of Washington’s Pack Forest, and Mountain Training Center CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily Scott Edited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay Additional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

  8. 05/08/2025 ·  Bonus

    Keeping Winter Wild: with Hilary Eisen

    What does it take to protect your favorite wild snowscapes—and who’s actually making those decisions? Hilary Eisen, our National Policy Director at Winter Wildlands Alliance, joins the SnowBrains podcast with Miles Clark to peel back the curtain on how we're advocating for backcountry recreation access for all, how grassroots organizations play a vital role in public land management, the challenges and successes of navigating winter policy, and much more. MEET HILARY EISEN: Hilary is an avid backcountry skier and ice climber with a passion for wild landscapes. She leads Winter Wildlands Alliance's work on National Forest winter travel management, forest planning, and other policy issues. Hilary works with our members, grassroots and grasstops partners, agency staff, and elected officials to protect wild snowscapes across the United States. Hilary started her career in public lands in the backcountry, maintaining Forest Service trails and educating the public about Wilderness stewardship as a Wilderness Ranger while spending winters working on wildlife research projects. Prior to joining WWA in 2014, she worked on public lands conservation in Wyoming and Montana. She received her B.A. in conservation biology from Middlebury College and a Master’s degree in wildlife biology from the University of Montana. Email Hilary at heisen@winterwildlands.org. LINKS: The SnowBrains PodcastLearn more and support our policy work Follow @winterwildlandsalliance on InstagramPledge to Ski Kind CREDITS: Trail Break Radio Producer: Emily Scott SnowBrains Podcast: Created by Miles Clark, Edited by Liam Abbott, and music by Chad Croutch Theme music:⁠ ⁠Rattlesnake Preachers⁠⁠ feat. Kerry McClay

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Trail Break Radio, the Winter Wildlands Alliance podcast, takes you beyond the well-trodden path, delving into diverse topics shaping our commitment to protect America’s wild snowscapes. From promoting equitable outdoor access to sharing tales of adventure, we offer fresh insights into recreating on and stewarding our cherished wild spaces. Join the dialogue with experts in public lands management, policy, ecology, and activism, echoing the grassroots spirit that defines Winter Wildlands Alliance.

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  • Creator
    Winter Wildlands Alliance
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    19
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Winter Wildlands Alliance
  • Show Website
    Trail Break Radio

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