Big Law Life

Laura Terrell

On Big Law Life, Laura Terrell and her guests discuss the strategies, steps, relationships and communications you need to navigate the world of large global and national law firms, from the perspective of lawyers, business and legal professionals, in-house counsel, and others with experience working in and around this environment. Laura dives into what you want to know about BigLaw but didn't learn in law school and what wasn't covered in your law firm orientation. To learn more about how she works with attorneys and to access her blog and resources, go to www.lauraterrell.com

  1. 3d ago

    #142: Why Easy-to-Brief Lawyers Stand Out in BigLaw

    There is an under-rated skill that can make lawyers significantly more valuable to partners and clients: being easy to brief. This does not mean knowing everything about a matter or immediately having the answer. It means being able to enter an unfamiliar conversation, listen through incomplete or disorganized information, identify what actually matters, and determine what still needs to be known before moving forward. In BigLaw, lawyers are often pulled into meetings with little context, asked to weigh in on issues they did not expect, or given only a few minutes to get up to speed. The lawyers who handle those situations well are often the ones who get invited into more important conversations. One of the biggest mistakes lawyers make when being briefed is interrupting too quickly or being too focused on every question that occurs to them. Many of those questions will be answered if you keep listening, while others will turn out not to matter at all. I also discuss in this episode how to identify the real issue by listening for what the client keeps returning to, why the conversation is happening now, what is worrying them, and what they actually need from the lawyers in the room. I cover when it does make sense to interrupt, why gathering every available fact can become counterproductive, and how to distinguish between "What is there to know?" and "What do I need to know to handle what needs to happen now?" Ultimately, being easy to brief is about exercising judgment under uncertainty and becoming the lawyer who can enter a complicated situation, find the center of the problem, and help move it toward a solution. At a Glance 01:20 Why being easy to brief is an overlooked way lawyers add value 02:10 What it looks like when a lawyer can quickly get up to speed on an unfamiliar issue 03:36 Why you should resist asking every question that occurs to you during a briefing 05:13 How to listen long enough for complicated information to begin organizing itself 05:57 What to listen for when a client is giving you a messy or disorganized explanation 06:46 How senior lawyers and the dynamics in the room can provide additional signals about what matters 09:25 What to do when you still cannot identify the center of the problem 10:47 Why asking for every available document or fact can make lawyers harder to brief 11:52 The difference between what there is to know and what you need to know right now 13:29 Why good lawyering requires judgment even when you do not have complete information 14:20 How excessive "alignment" can turn a straightforward assignment into unnecessary work 15:56 Why maximum expertise does not always produce maximum value for the client 17:11 How being easy to brief can lead to more client exposure and career opportunities 19:10 A practical way to improve how you process unfamiliar information in real time 20:03 Why you do not have to know the most to become the lawyer everyone wants in the room For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #142: Why Easy-to-Brief Lawyers Stand Out in BigLaw
  2. Sep 9

    #141: How BigLaw Partnership Promotion Committees Really Make Decisions

    In this episode, I discuss what actually happens when a BigLaw lawyer's name goes before a partnership promotion committee and the decision points that illustrate what this group is seeing and concluding about you. By the time a senior associate, counsel, or non-equity partner reaches serious partnership consideration, the firm already knows the basic metrics: billable hours, utilization, realization, collections, matter experience, business development efforts, and prior evaluations. Those numbers may help determine who gets into the conversation, but the harder questions are about whether a candidate is ready to become an owner of the firm and contribute to its future. I explain why and how partnership committees focus on factors that numbers alone cannot answer, including whether clients trust you, whether other lawyers want to work with you, whether you can manage matters financially, build relationships, and help lead the firm. I also explain what you want to make sure you know and have ready beyond your partnership memo - including why internal advocates matter, especially when committee members may have little firsthand experience with you, and why specific examples of your judgment and client impact are much more persuasive than general praise. Finally, I break down how practice group needs, office priorities, firm economics, leadership succession, and the composition of the overall partnership class can influence promotion decisions. Partnership is not an exam where meeting every stated criterion guarantees promotion. It is an institutional investment decision shaped by years of performance, reputation, relationships, and the firm's view of where it needs to go next. At a Glance 01:20 What actually happens when your name goes before a BigLaw partnership committee 02:59 Why your partnership case is built years before the committee meeting 03:23 Why being an excellent lawyer is usually no longer the central question 04:13 How billable hours, realization, collections, and other metrics factor into the process 05:22 What partnership committees evaluate that the numbers cannot show 06:59 Why your internal reputation matters when committee members may barely know you 08:38 Why specific examples make stronger partnership advocacy than general praise 09:59 The future-focused questions partnership committees ask about candidates 11:15 How practice needs, office priorities, and internal dynamics influence partnership decisions 17:10 Why partnership is an investment decision rather than an exam you can simply pass For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #141: How BigLaw Partnership Promotion Committees Really Make Decisions
  3. Sep 2

    #140: Practical Business Development for BigLaw Mid-Level Associates

    Practical business development in BigLaw begins much earlier than most associates think. Mid-level associates are often told to focus on doing excellent work, meeting deadlines, and learning how to become strong lawyers, while client relationships and business development seem like responsibilities reserved for partners and senior associates. But even before BigLaw attorneys are expected to bring in revenue, they need to learn how to build professional relationships so that they even know how to have foundations for business. The partners with significant practices today did not suddenly develop networks when they became senior. Many of their most important relationships accumulated over years or decades and began when everyone involved was still relatively junior. I explain how mid-levelassociates can start building stronger relationship skills without trying to act like rainmakers too early. BigLaw gives lawyers access to many settings where meaningful connections can begin. The goal is not to collect contacts or turn every conversation into business, but to listen, follow up thoughtfully, and stay in touch. I also cover when to connect on LinkedIn, when to send a brief email, when to keep a partner informed, and why a relationship can be valuable on many levels. At a Glance 01:20 Why expectations change when you become a mid-level BigLaw associate 02:04 Why building a practice starts before you are expected to originate business 02:56 Why mid-level associates need to understand the business behind the legal work 05:25 The difference between building relationships and owning client relationships 06:41 Where future BigLaw opportunities often come from 07:50 How mid-level associates can create opportunities through existing relationships 09:15 Why having a client request you by name matters 10:12 How to spot potential client needs without independently pitching services 11:26 Why your professional reputation matters more at the mid-level 15:17 Why preparing for partnership starts years before you are considered For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #140: Practical Business Development for BigLaw Mid-Level Associates
  4. Aug 26

    #139: What Business Development Should Look Like for BigLaw Junior Associates

    Business development in BigLaw begins much earlier than most associates thinkm but not in the way you might imagine or that your firm is suggesting. Junior lawyers are often told to focus on doing excellent work, meeting deadlines, and learning how to become strong lawyers, while client relationships and business development seem like responsibilities reserved for partners and senior associates. But long before lawyers are expected to bring in revenue, they need to learn how to build professional relationships. The partners with significant practices today did not suddenly develop networks when they became senior. Many of their most important relationships accumulated over years or decades and began when everyone involved was still relatively junior. I explain in this episode how associates can start developing those relationships without trying to act like rainmakers before their time. BigLaw provides access to conferences, client receptions, trade association meetings, fundraisers, pro bono events, and other settings where you can meet people you would not otherwise encounter. The goal is not to collect as many business cards as possible or immediately turn every conversation into a business opportunity - no matter what your law firm may be suggesting about how you immediately start building your network. What is really important at this stage is to learn relationship skills: how to meet people, ask questions, listen carefully, and notice when you genuinely connect with someone. I also walk through what to do after that conversation, including when to connect on LinkedIn, when a brief email makes sense, how quickly to follow up, what not to send, and how remembering a personal detail can be more effective than sending another client alert. I also explain when you should keep a partner informed about a new contact and why you should not judge the value of a relationship solely by whether that person could someday become a client. These may seem intuitive or they may seem like steps you have to thoughtfully consider in a hierarchal law firm environement. You don't want to overstep but you also want to learn how to develop relationships in a natural way that doesn't make you feel like you're instantly selling (you shouldn't be) or just shaking a hand and then moving on (you don't to just be doing that either). Developing the right habits for what it means to form relationships early makes business development more natural and gives you years to become more comfortable in buidling relationships before the pressure to generate work becomes truly critical. At a Glance 01:20 Why client relationships can feel inaccessible to junior BigLaw associates 02:19 Why "keep your head down and do good work" is incomplete career advice 02:38 Why developing business and developing relationships are different skills 03:02 How a casual conference conversation can become the beginning of a professional relationship even when an ask for work may be years away. 04:11 Why junior lawyers often hesitate to follow up after meeting someone 04:32 Why doing nothing because you are afraid of appearing presumptuous is the real mistake 04:51 Why business development begins years before anyone expects you to bring in revenue 05:23 How relationships that begin when lawyers are junior can become important decades later 05:54 Why access to conferences, receptions, and industry events is one of BigLaw's overlooked advantages for relationship potential 06:48 How to approach conversations when you are not yet responsible for generating business 07:12 Why you should follow up within days rather than waiting several weeks 07:38 How to write a personalized LinkedIn connection request that does not feel like a sales pitch 08:02 When a LinkedIn connection is enough and when a brief email also makes sense 08:26 Why your first follow-up should not include a client alert, brochure, meeting request, or sales pitch 09:08 How remembering personal details creates more meaningful reasons to stay in touch 09:28 Why lawyers should stop believing every follow-up needs to "add value" through legal content 10:20 When to tell a partner about someone you have met 10:43 How to build your own relationships while still contributing to the firm's client relationships 11:11 Why the firm does not need to be informed about every professional connection you make 11:32 Why you should not evaluate relationships solely by whether someone might become a client 12:25 A better way to measure success when attending conferences and professional events 13:17 Why developing relationship-building habits early makes business development easier later 13:56 Why junior associates should focus on becoming professionals people remember rather than trying to become rainmakers For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #139: What Business Development Should Look Like for BigLaw Junior Associates
  5. Aug 19

    #138: The BigLaw Mindsets You Need to Leave Behind

    In this episode, I discuss five things BigLaw attorneys often spend too much energy worrying about early in their careers and why those priorities should change as they become more senior. Office location, titles, billable-hour comparisons, being copied on important emails, and proving you are the smartest person in the room can all feel like important signals that you are succeeding. Some of those signals do matter at certain points in your career, but they become less useful measures of your value as you gain experience and better understand how law firms actually operate. The lawyers who continue to advance learn to distinguish between what feels important and what firms, partners, and clients actually value. I also explain how that shift changes the way you should evaluate your own career. Your office matters far less than the quality of the work and relationships you build. Your title matters less than whether it gives you the ability to influence decisions, lead teams, create opportunities, and earn client trust. Billable hours remain an important business metric, but once you are meeting reasonable expectations, the more significant question is what those hours produce for clients and the firm. I also explain why being copied on every email is a weaker indicator of importance than becoming the lawyer people call for judgment, and why leadership means moving beyond proving how smart you are and instead toward asking better questions, understanding what the client actually needs, and making the people around you more effective. Ultimately, career growth in BigLaw involves moving from external signals of achievement toward trust, judgment, relationships, business impact, and the ability to create value. At a Glance 01:20 Why BigLaw lawyers eventually need to rethink the signals they associate with success 02:09 How to distinguish what feels important from what actually affects your career 02:33 Why your office location becomes less meaningful as you advance 03:42 Why your work and reputation matter more than where you physically sit 04:04 How to evaluate a title based on what it allows you to accomplish 04:32 Why reputation and influence matter more than an impressive title 04:58 When focusing too closely on billable-hour comparisons becomes counterproductive 05:57 Why senior lawyers should ask what their hours are actually creating 06:49 Why hours are an important metric but never the entire story 07:11 Why being copied on important emails can create a false sense of significance 07:37 How to move from being included on communications to being called for judgment 08:26 Why being the smartest person in the room is not the same as being the most valuable 09:19 How leadership shifts from proving you know the answer to helping the team reach the best answer 09:50 Why career priorities move from external signals toward trust, impact, and relationships 10:39 How successful lawyers transition from proving themselves to creating value  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #138: The BigLaw Mindsets You Need to Leave Behind
  6. Aug 12

    #137: Leaving BigLaw Without a New Job: Managing Your Reputation and Search

    In this episode, I discuss what happens when your final day at a BigLaw firm arrives and you haven't landed your next role. The concerns in this situation can extend beyond the potential financial impact. Lawyers also often worry that clients and colleagues will assume something went wrong, recruiters will view them differently once they are no longer attached to a major firm, and an employment gap will weaken their ability to compete for the positions they want. Leaving without another role, however, does not automatically damage your career. The greater risk is allowing your transition to become so undefined  that other people begin making assumptions as they, not you, fill in the gaps about what happened and project what you can contribute. Throughout the episode, I explain how to remain visible, professionally engaged, and in control of your narrative after leaving a firm. I discuss why your transition strategy should begin before your departure, how to replace and reclaim the professional signals your firm once generated for you, and how to talk about your search without sounding apologetic or uncertain. I also explain why legal opportunities often emerge through relationships and recognized business needs rather than posted positions; how to diagnose and adjust a search that is not producing results; and when an interim, advisory, or bridge role can be strategically useful. Most importantly, I discuss how to manage an extended transition by defining objectives, maintaining a professional rhythm, evaluating what is working, and continuing to strengthen the relationships, reputation, credibility, and market relevance that can help the right opportunity emerge. At a Glance 01:20 What happens when you leave BigLaw without another role secured 02:30 Why the transition itself does not have to damage your career 03:17 How to remain visible and relevant after losing your firm's platform 04:02 Why you must begin creating your own professional signals so others don't 04:58 How to stay connected without making every conversation about your job search 07:03 Why the absence of a role should not define your professional identity 08:08 How to discuss your transition with discretion and confidence 09:23 Why disappearing from your network can become a costly mistake 10:37 How to shift from being chosen to creating demand for your expertise 11:04 How to translate BigLaw experience into value the market understands 12:00 Why working harder may not fix a stalled search 13:27 How to diagnose where your search strategy is breaking down 15:39 How to evaluate an imperfect or interim opportunity 17:47 How to manage an extended transition like a significant client matter For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #137: Leaving BigLaw Without a New Job: Managing Your Reputation and Search
  7. Aug 5

    #136: When Your BigLaw Firm Wants You to Move On - But Hasn't Yet Said When

    What happens when you're told, often indirectly, that your future is no longer with the firm while receiving little clarity about when you are actually expected to leave. A practice group leader may encourage you to explore opportunities, a managing partner may suggest thinking about your next chapter, or attorney development may offer to help with a transition. The language can sound supportive, and there may be no immediate deadline, but by the time these conversations are happening, the decision about your long-term future at the firm has often already been made. The issue you are now facing is now timing, not whether you are leaving. In this episode, I explain how to act strategically rather than waiting for the firm to define your timeline. I walk through the kinds of questions you need to ask of your firm beyond just about timing; the decisions you should begin making even without a departure date or if that date is flexible; and why your current title, client access, relationships, credibility, and income give you valuable leverage while you are still employed. I also discuss how to evaluate help from partners, coaches, and attorney development without allowing the firm's desire for a successful exit to dictate your next career move. Most importantly, I explain how to protect your reputation, strengthen relationships, explore opportunities, and preserve your options so that ambiguity does not cost you valuable time or force you into a rushed decision. At a Glance 01:20 How to recognize when a BigLaw firm is signaling your exit 02:10 Why your future may be decided without a departure date 03:46 What firms mean when they encourage you to explore the market 04:35 What can affect how much runway you receive 05:03 How to use your leverage while you're still employed 05:31 What to ask about your timeline, compensation, and transition 06:16 Why no deadline doesn't mean unlimited time 06:43 What to consider about compensation and work commitments 07:40 Why you should start networking and preparing now 08:32 How to leave your firm from a position of strength 09:47 Why waiting can turn your transition into a reactive job search 10:23 How your goals differ from the firm's transition goals 11:11 When the firm's transition help can be valuable 12:23 Why someone else's urgency shouldn't drive your career strategy 12:46 The difference between being receptive and being directed 13:48 How ambiguity can cost you time and opportunities 14:35 Why you should act even without a clear timeline 15:00 What you already know despite uncertainty about timing 15:52 The bigger question of what comes next in your career  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #136: When Your BigLaw Firm Wants You to Move On - But Hasn't Yet Said When
  8. Jul 29

    #135: Why BigLaw Junior Partner Compensation Stalls and How to Increase It

    One of the biggest compensation frustrations for junior partners is how to move your comp meaningfully as you are still working to grow your practice and especially to originate work and land new clients. At the same time, compensation is no longer driven primarily by hours worked, responsibility assumed, or even the importance of the matters you manage. Instead, compensation increasingly reflects where you sit within the firm's economic structure, particularly your connection to origination, revenue attribution, and client ownership. Many junior partners are carrying enormous responsibility, leading major client matters, and serving as the day-to-day face of important relationships, only to discover that those contributions do not automatically translate into significant compensation increases. In this episode, I explain why firms distinguish between creating revenue and executing revenue, and why compensation committees place greater value on the lawyers who influence client origination, relationship expansion, and long-term profitability. I walk through the important difference between execution and attribution, explain why being indispensable to a matter is not the same as receiving economic credit for it, and share practical ways junior partners can begin positioning themselves closer to origination. Using real-world examples involving client retention, matter profitability, and identifying new business opportunities, I explain how to frame your contributions in ways that compensation committees recognize as commercially meaningful and directly tied to firm economics. At a Glance 01:20 Why junior partners are surprised by their compensation despite carrying significantly more responsibility 02:37 The associate mindset that equates hours, responsibility, and client work with higher compensation 03:35 How compensation committees focus on revenue attribution instead of execution 04:28 What origination really means beyond simply bringing in a new client 05:25 Howrunning major matters is often viewed as execution rather than economic ownership 05:51 Whyrelationship partners receive credit even when junior partners do the work 06:55 Why compensation follows where revenue originates and expands instead of following legal work performance 07:46 The distinction between creating value through client ownership and delivering value through execution 08:13 How junior partners begin connecting execution to origination without already holding origination credit 09:02 Why comp committees prioritize long-term client ownership and attribution over annual workload increases 10:21 Commercially meaningful ways junior partners can strengthen future compensation discussions 10:47 How stabilizing an at-risk client relationship can become a powerful compensation narrative 12:44 Why improving realization, profitability, and matter scope - even without origination creates economic value 15:02 How identifying adjacent client problems can generate entirely new revenue streams 17:00 Why "revenue-relevant execution" is the framework that changes compensation conversations For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    #135: Why BigLaw Junior Partner Compensation Stalls and How to Increase It
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On Big Law Life, Laura Terrell and her guests discuss the strategies, steps, relationships and communications you need to navigate the world of large global and national law firms, from the perspective of lawyers, business and legal professionals, in-house counsel, and others with experience working in and around this environment. Laura dives into what you want to know about BigLaw but didn't learn in law school and what wasn't covered in your law firm orientation. To learn more about how she works with attorneys and to access her blog and resources, go to www.lauraterrell.com

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