What happens when you mix psychedelics with some of the most fearsome waves on Earth? What does it take to stay curious, joyful, and deeply alive—well into your 70s? In this wide spanning conversation, legendary surfer Jock Sutherland joins Ageless Athlete to talk about the radical experiences, deep values, and spiritual practices that shaped his life—from surfing Pipeline in the 1960s to climbing mango trees and sharing fruit with neighbors at 77. Raised off-grid on Oʻahu, Jock came of age paddling rivers, spearfishing, and spending summers with the “Hermit of Kalalau.” His mother, Audrey Sutherland—a pioneering solo paddler—raised him on a handwritten list of survival skills that included everything from “save someone drowning with available equipment” to “dance with any age.” Jock opens up about: His early experiments with LSD, and why surfing while high never replaced the clarity of presenceWhy he left surfing at the height of his fame to join the ArmyThe life lessons he learned from injury, reinvention, and working as a roofer for over 50 yearsHow community, fruit bartering, and stretching classes help him age wellAnd what it means to stay in love with movement, the ocean, and learning—at any ageThis is a conversation about psychedelics, surfing, reinvention, and awe—but more than anything, it’s about how to live with wonder, even as the decades pass. 🔥 Topics & Timestamps 0:00 – The sourdough, marmalade, and mango trade that fuels Jock’s mornings 5:00 – What it means to be the “one-man fruit distributor of Oʻahu” 13:00 – Summers with the Hermit of Kalalau and Audrey Sutherland’s list of life skills 22:00 – Surfing Pipeline: early fear, speed, and beauty 30:00 – LSD, consciousness, and why surfing high didn’t last 38:00 – Leaving pro surfing to join the Army 48:00 – Rooftops, reinvention, and building a different kind of life 58:00 – Staying active at 76: stretching, herbs, and still surfing 1:05:00 – On legacy, parenting, and feeling unfinished 1:10:00 – “Too old to start?” Jock’s answer 1:14:00 – The billboard message he’d leave for Hawaiʻi 📚 References & Mentions Audrey Sutherland’s list of life skills: via The New Yorker Let My People Go Surfing by Yvon Chouinard (Patagonia )Fierce Grace – Documentary on Ram DassThe Duke Kahanamoku Invitational Surfing ChampionshipThai herbal supplements mentioned by Jock (no official site – listeners should research independently)--- 🚀 Love the show? Here’s how to support it If something you’ve heard here has stayed with you, made you smile, or helped you keep going, I’d be honored if you’d consider supporting the show. 👉 https://buymeacoffee.com/agelessathlete 📰 Subscribe to the Ageless Athlete newsletter ! 1-2x a month, no spam. We share behind-the-scenes reflections, longevity tips, and athlete wisdom you won’t find anywhere else. You can sign up at https://www.agelessathlete.co/newsletter/ 📩 Support the show
