Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

  1. Intimacy With Your Inner World

    2D AGO

    Intimacy With Your Inner World

    This week, Thomas shares a teaching on how to become intimate with your authentic inner self, what causes us to distance ourselves from presence and self-acceptance, and why it’s actually counterproductive to strive towards an “ideal” or “perfect” self. Tune in for a spiritual perspective on understanding your triggers, embracing discomfort, and transforming stagnation into opportunity for new choices. It’s an important teaching for anyone working to get themselves unstuck from past patterns and limiting beliefs. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/BgYr1q-D1Uo Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET Join Thomas live on February 5th for an inspiring, free, online event and Q&A: ✨Aligning Your Life With Your Soul - Listening to Your Inner Wisdom ✨ Together with our global community, you’ll explore how to focus your attention on what brings you freedom, strength, and joy, so you can align your life with the guidance from your soul. Sign up for free here: 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com/soul ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    42 min
  2. Jack Kornfield | Stories of Transformation

    JAN 27

    Jack Kornfield | Stories of Transformation

    This week, Thomas sits down with beloved spiritual teacher and author Jack Kornfield to explore the important and often undervalued spiritual role of the elder, the transformative power of storytelling, and why we should approach our own suffering with love instead of fear. Jack shares some beautiful, poignant stories from his new book, All in This Together, that illustrate how small acts of compassion have a profound ripple effect on our shared consciousness, and how important it is to radically honor each individual’s inherent freedom and dignity… even when we feel we have little in common. He and Thomas weave together their understanding of trauma healing, meditation, and social transformation to share a hopeful roadmap to collective healing as we undergo a critical, but difficult, period of transition and unrest. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/tADVhkLaPF4 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET Join Thomas live on February 5th for an inspiring, free, online event and Q&A: ✨Aligning Your Life With Your Soul - Listening to Your Inner Wisdom ✨ Together with our global community, you’ll explore how to focus your attention on what brings you freedom, strength, and joy, so you can align your life with the guidance from your soul. Sign up for free here: 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com/soul ✨ Jack Kornfield is a trained Buddhist monk with a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and is a founding teacher of the Insight Meditation Society in Massachusetts and Spirit Rock Meditation Center in California. He is one of the key teachers to introduce mindfulness practice to the West, has taught internationally since 1974, and is the author of 16 books, which have sold 2 million copies. Connect with Jack here: 👉 https://jackkornfield.com Order Jack's new book, All In This Together: Stories and Teachings for Loving Each Other and Our World, here: 👉 https://jackkornfield.com/all-in-this-together-stories-and-teachings-for-loving-each-other-and-our-world/ ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: a...

    1h 2m
  3. john a. powell | Othering and Belonging

    JAN 20

    john a. powell | Othering and Belonging

    This week, Thomas sits down with law professor and Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute, john a. powell, for a deep examination of humans’ tendency to become divided, and how the narratives we construct around fearing other groups are actually a symptom of our fundamental drive for connection. They explore how our capacity for connection and community, driven by culture and storytelling, can produce divisiveness, and how we can use these same capacities to increase our empathy for suffering, deepen our embodiment, and overcome the fear, anxiety, and disconnect that result from collective trauma. This is a deep dive into the social and cultural drivers of disconnection, and an inspiring look at how we can tap into our spiritual and ancestral resources to bridge the divides that keep us stuck repeating the harmful patterns of the past. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/dFtytUEwFsg Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ john a. powell is Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute and Professor of Law, African American, and Ethnic Studies at UC Berkeley. He has led institutes focused on race and poverty at Ohio State and the University of Minnesota, and formerly served as National Legal Director of the ACLU. A co-founder of the Poverty & Race Research Action Council, he is known for developing frameworks of “targeted universalism” and “othering and belonging” to effect equity-based interventions. Connect with john here: 👉 https://belonging.berkeley.edu Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    1h 5m
  4. Becoming Mature Global Citizens with Matthew Green

    JAN 13

    Becoming Mature Global Citizens with Matthew Green

    This week, Thomas is joined once again by journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, for a conversation exploring the idea of “global acupuncture.” So what is global acupuncture? It’s an approach to collective global healing that leverages our power as connected, social beings to skillfully address the roots of collective trauma at the most critical pressure points in our cultures and societies. Thomas and Matthew discuss how humanity can transition from "adolescence" into mature citizenship by taking ownership of our shared history and integrating the "frozen" past stored within our collective nervous system. They share their hopes that, using these tools, we can turn a world of crisis into a place of global flourishing. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/_Dq3sMVNPk4 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative. Connect with Matthew here: 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    1 hr
  5. The Art of Transparent Communication [From the Archive]

    JAN 6

    The Art of Transparent Communication [From the Archive]

    This week, we revisit an early episode where Thomas explores the concept of Transparent Communication, a practice that creates an open and grounded relational space where constructive and creative communication can occur. He explains that this form of communication combines the interconnected data streams of cognitive, emotional, and physical information that are always present in any conversation. When we become attuned to these transmissions from others' nervous systems, and are consciously creating coherent transmissions from our own, we can establish a deep connection that's rich in intimacy and free from reactivity. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/HojYkPpwBkk Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET If you enjoy this episode and want to dive deeper into this topic... ✨ On January 31, join Thomas’ authorized instructors Eva Giedt and Rae Riedel for a special 2-day online workshop on Transparent Communication. You’ll learn practices to support fresh, emergent conversations where new ways of being together and perception arise, and guidance on how to apply these principles in your everyday life. Whether you’re new to Thomas’ work or are undergoing advanced studies with him, we hope you’ll join us. Learn more and join the workshop here: 👉 https://www.transparent-communication.com/workshop ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 a href="https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    34 min
  6. Accessing Deeper States of Meditation with Susanne Ahlendorf & Martin Bruders

    12/30/2025

    Accessing Deeper States of Meditation with Susanne Ahlendorf & Martin Bruders

    This week, Thomas is joined once again by his dear friends, longtime students, and meditation instructors Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders, for a conversation that unpacks both elemental and complex elements of the practice of meditation. They break down the most essential spiritual components of meditation and how we can apply them to our own practice, at any experience level. Thomas shares insight on how to cultivate the “beginner’s mind” and harness our attention by releasing unhelpful expectations of what a “good” practice should be. They also discuss the crucial role of the body in meditation, and how we can learn to embrace life’s deepest and most difficult questions as our path to revelation. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/qNKx_V-IhfE Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Susanne Ahlendorf is a non-medical practitioner for psychotherapy, a group leader for meditation and Inner Science practice, who accompanies people on their personal and spiritual development path. For her, meditation is a way of unfolding love in life. Connect with Susanne here: https://www.susanneahlendorf.de ✨ Martin Bruders is a qualified social worker, mediator, and coach. He worked for over 28 years as a comedian and presenter at over 2000 corporate events in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. His inner exploration journey is as much about his meditation practice as it is about his daily life. He loves to permeate life deeper and deeper, always in search of intimacy with the divine; sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing. Connect with Martin here: 👉 https://www.martinbruders.de Explore more teachings and meditations from Martin and Susanne via their co-founded organization, Make Space for Grace, here: https://www.makespaceforgrace.de And subscribe to their YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@makespaceforgrace-de Sign up for the free monthly Living Meditation Stream with Martin and Susanne, an online opportunity to learn meditation skills and connect with our community: https://thomashuebl.com/meditation Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and

    53 min
  7. Ross Gay | The Poetry of Joy and Connection

    12/23/2025

    Ross Gay | The Poetry of Joy and Connection

    This week, Thomas sits down with acclaimed poet and author Ross Gay for a conversation on the intrinsic link between joy and sorrow, and the importance of finding delight in a world where doing so feels increasingly difficult. Ross’ work is focused on finding joy through human connection, from kinship and ancestry to the profound and powerful connection we feel when we help each other carry our sorrows. In this way, sorrow serves as an unexpected source of delight, a fundamental element of life that illuminates the precarity of joy, and thus its potency. Ross was also kind enough to share readings of some of his delightful poetry. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/qI0gXJRzqw8 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Ross Gay is the author of four books of poetry: Against Which; Bringing the Shovel Down; Be Holding, winner of the PEN American Literary Jean Stein Award; and Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude, winner of the 2015 National Book Critics Circle Award and the 2016 Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award. He has released three collections of essays—The Book of Delights was released in 2019 and was a New York Times bestseller; Inciting Joy was released in 2022, and his newest collection, The Book of (More) Delights was released in September of 2023. Connect with Ross here: 👉 https://www.rossgay.net Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    48 min
  8. Kyle Dietrich | The Sacredness of Service

    12/16/2025

    Kyle Dietrich | The Sacredness of Service

    This week, Thomas sits down with Kyle Dietrich, a trauma-informed leadership coach and the founder of Grounded Idealist, for a hopeful conversation about how personal and global crises can spark radical transformation, and how we can build a supportive healing architecture for service workers, healers, parents, and anyone committed to bettering our world. They explore the crucial link between inner work and social change, the need for trauma-informed support for people who’ve dedicated their lives to helping others, and what resources are essential for all of us to achieve conscious relational systems and sustainable healing. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/LMw7Iw8lTRQ Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Kyle Dietrich is a social entrepreneur, international development leader, and trauma-informed leadership coach with 25+ years implementing peacebuilding, humanitarian assistance, and learning & development programs. He recently led a team in USAID's Bureau for Humanitarian Assistance and has worked with the Peace Corps, Equal Access, Mercy Corps, and UN Peacekeeping. He’s the founder and executive director of Grounded Idealist, a grassroots organization on a mission to catalyze the future of service and social change work. Connect with Kyle here: 👉 https://www.groundedidealist.co Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    54 min

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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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