Fascia & Bones: Unpacking the Mystery

Kirstie MacDonald Scott

Some things I love—fascia and bones with a detective mystery. I am practicing manual osteopath and structural integrator and love working with the connective tissue of the body and the holistic systems of the body. I am also a long-time educator in the field of bodywork and movement. My hope is to share some insights in the fields I practice.I am generalist in my practice, which means I do a little of everything and there are some areas I focus on such as neurodivergence, trauma, birth work and chronic pain.    As an educator, I am connected with many people in my fields of study and my hope is to share their experiences and expertise within the discussions we have.   In the new podcast I will begin with interviewing folks starting with the field of Structural Integration (SI). I want to unveil some sticky points in our field and take an honest look at some bias that has happened due to how the lineage was set up by Dr. Ida Rolf. In the future, I hope to interview a broader range of innovators in the field of fascia.

  1. May 14

    S2 E11: Trauma Is Not Stored in the Body

    Send us Fan Mail In Season 2, Episode 11 I am sharing some thoughts based on my clinical research and upcoming book on how to support trauma, especially with regards to how popular discussing this conversations has become  in the last few months in social media. This is invitation to reframe how we talk about trauma. There’s a phrase that has become incredibly popular in trauma culture: “The body keeps the score.” And while I understand why this idea resonates with so many people, I want to invite a deeper and more nuanced conversation. These are ideas that are presented in my upcoming book to be release in the end of 2026 entitled Somatic Touch: An integrative approach to physical and psychosomatic trauma. Because I don’t actually believe trauma is “stored” in the body in the simplistic way it is often talked about. I don’t think trauma sits trapped in the tissues like a toxin waiting to be released. What I think is happening is far more complex, relational, and honestly, far more fascinating. What we call trauma is often an adaptive neurobiological pattern. A learned survival physiology. A predictive response shaped by environment, attachment, development, physiology, and relationship. And yes — it absolutely shows up in the body. But that is different than saying trauma is physically stored there like an object. This distinction matters. Especially for practitioners. Especially for neurodivergent folks. Especially for anyone who has felt harmed, overwhelmed, or pathologized by certain trauma narratives. Because many people have come to believe they are carrying hidden trauma trapped inside them that must somehow be excavated, discharged, or released through shaking, catharsis, or emotional excavation. And I want to question that framework. Not to dismiss trauma. Not to dismiss suffering. But to invite us into a more holistic and embryological understanding of how human beings actually develop and regulate. From an osteopathic and embryological lens, the body is never just tissue. For more go to my Substack for full text.

    12 min
  2. Jan 31

    S2E10: Discussion with Kieran Schumaker on metaphors in teaching and working with clients

    Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to Fascia and Bones: Unpacking the Mystery.  Some things I love—fascia and bones with a detective mystery. I am a practicing manual osteopath and structural integrator and love working with the connective tissue of the body and the holistic systems of the body. I am also a long-time educator in the field of bodywork and movement. My hope is to share some insights into the fields I practice. In Season 2, Episode 10, I am with Kieran Schumaker (they/them), ATSI, BCSI instructor Neurovascular Release Courses who is coming to teach their classes in September and November of 2026. We are following up our discussion from Season 2 Episode 6 where we are talking about curiosity and mentioned metaphor. Here we are diving deeper into many ways we teach with metaphor as well as how this supports our clients on becoming more embodied. Kier wrote Why we use metaphors: 1. To help us feel tissue, finding the right touch or the right layer nodule the size of a pea to describe how to feel for the C2,3 nerve rootskidney covered in its fat pad feels like a bar of soap2. To help us understand spatial relationships in a complex system glide planesstacking the bonestensegrity network3. To describe presence or movement quality feels like butterfluid movement4. To help others see what we see Rolfing traditionally uses geometric metaphors, such as cylindershourglass figure5. To name what is frustrating or challenging dropped, collapsed, or fallen archesblocky vastus lateralisjacked up nervous systemSome metaphors we discuss (In no particular order): Imagination—to help us sense, touch, feel, and be present with bodiesRooted—firmly established, deeply feltBack Body—bend, support, not the frontFluid (movement)—like waterStable or Stability—to standGlide Plane (for intermuscular septum)—relationship between two tissue layers, but not like two plates sliding.Grapefruit Sections—muscle compartments in the thighNerve roots Artery branchesUpstream—closer to the Central Nervous System or central vascular system.Beet root analogy—when talking with clients and students about dural restrictions.And now for the podcast discussion with Kier. Class Registration Links: Manual NVR™ Part 1: Head, Neck, and "Roots of Arms" - September 18-20, 2026, Taos, New Mexico (USA) https://learn.neurovascular-release.online/courses/manual-nvr-part-1-sept-2026-taos Manual Neurovascular Release Part 2: Lower Thorax, Pelvis, and Hips November 13-15, 2026 https://learn.neurovascular-release.online/courses/manual-nvr-part-2-november-2026-taos November 16, 2026 Integration and Practice https://learn.neurovascular-release.online/courses/manual-nvr-masterclass-nov-16-2026-taos Somatic Touch © 2023 by Kirstie Segarra is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0

    54 min
  3. Jan 2

    S2E9, “Turning up the volume”, Zohran Mamdani, changing paradigm of trauma theory, feminism, patriarchy, colonization, non-binary and queer politics.

    Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to Fascia and Bones: Unpacking the Mystery.  Some things I love—fascia and bones with a detective mystery. I am a practicing manual osteopath and structural integrator and love working with the connective tissue of the body and the holistic systems of the body. I am also a long-time educator in the field of bodywork and movement. My hope is to share some insights into the fields I practice. In Season 2, Episode 9, I am sharing some thoughts around “turning up the volume”, Zohran Mamdani, changing paradigm of trauma theory, feminism, patriarchy, colonization, non-binary and queer politics. I have been reflecting as women how we hold each other up, support each other, and continue to melt the patriarchal messages, including within us, to help offer healing and change in the systems we live in.    I thought I would share an excerpt from my book I am writing and the chapter is entitled “How trauma shows up in the body or does it?”  “In resonance, all fluid systems are united. I say that no matter where in the galaxy they may be, all fluid systems function as basically one body or organ of intelligence.” — Emilie Conrad Go to Substack for full post. Meanwhile, thank you for listening to Fascia and Bones: Unpacking the Mystery and please review the podcast on the platform you listen to. Somatic Touch © 2023 by Kirstie Segarra is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0

    13 min
  4. 12/16/2025

    S2E7: Winter Solstice, Invisible Women, Caillach Bheur, and a new Surname!

    Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to Fascia and Bones… I have become her, or becoming her, that late 50’s invisible woman standing amongst the sagebrush of Taos, New Mexico, in the dark with a strand of solar Christmas lights, untangling the knots of the string as I drop the strands over the sagebrush in honor of the winter solstice nights. It is a period of time with longer nights, as we approach the time at that very moment on the winter solstice where the moments of darkness begin to be filled with new light. This is the time of the ancient goddess, the Caillach Bheur of the Highlands, who shaped the mountains, protected wells and springs, and was a guardian of the deer. She is the daughter of the Winter Sun during these short days. So much lore surrounds her, and it seems she isn’t just from ancient Scotland and Ireland, but also possibly among the ancient Britons before the Celts over 4,000 years ago. The Caillach is woven in the invisible landscape of winter. If you have not been taught her mythology then you might not notice her influence and wrath as she throws rocks at you to wake you up. I first heard the term “invisible woman” in reading my friend’s novel, The Invisible Women’s Club, by Dr. Helen Paris. I am not a big reader of fiction anymore, and somehow Dr. Helen’s book pulled me in with her sense of the body, humor, and character development. One of the lead characters had a way of knowing plants, their Latin terms, medicinal properties, and a heartfelt vigilante nature to help save the community garden, finding friendship and, dare I say, love. I am looking forward to interviewing Helen next week for the podcast. My academic semester of teaching craniosacral therapy has just finished, and I will be taking the spring term off from teaching to continue working on my book entitled Somatic Touch: An Integrative Approach to Healing from Physical and Psychosomatic Trauma. This book is a culmination of my teaching an osteopathic approach to the cranial field and sharing what I practice. I cover concepts from my second doctorate thesis in the art of listening, embodiment as an indigenous way of knowing, as well as specific craniosacral and visceral techniques, as well as osteopathic manual therapies of treatment. More importantly, I am offering a reframe of trauma theory and questioning some of the profound assumptions that are brought forth in narratives in our culture. Suffice it to say, it is a work in progress and I hope to have it completed by the end of 2026 for the publisher. Another big change on the horizon is that I am in the process of reclaiming my mother’s maiden name as my own. The surname I carry now is shared with my daughter from my previous marriage and one that doesn’t belong to me. I would love to have a surname that is the first in my matriarchal line. With all the ancestry deep dives I have done, the names always belong to the husband. I filed the legal paperwork to change my surnames to MacDonald Scott today! This is a beautiful way to enter the new year and next chapter of my life. I am wishing you and yours a beautiful Winter Solstice and see you soon on Fascia and Bones: Unpacking the Mystery. If you have been listening and would like to leave a review, that would be most appreciated. Dr. Kirstie

    7 min
  5. 10/30/2025

    S2E5: In this episode I am interviewing Dr. Maria DeFranco, DC and Holistic Physician

    Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to Fascia and Bones: Unpacking the Mystery.  Some things I love—fascia and bones with a detective mystery. I am a practicing manual osteopath and structural integrator and love working with the connective tissue of the body and the holistic systems of the body. I am also a long-time educator in the field of bodywork and movement. My hope is to share some insights into the fields I practice. In Episode 5 of Season 2, I am interviewing a dear friend and colleague, Dr. Maria DeFranco. Maria and I met in 2005 working together in a café in Taos, New Mexico. She was just beginning her practice as a licensed massage therapist. We ended up starting a new spa at the Taos Ski Valley together. Dr. Maria left to Portland to attend chiropractic school. I love seeing how Dr. Maria has developed and grown her OM3 BODY practice that offers excellence in bodywork.  Dr. Maria has creatively combined chiropractic and massage therapy, offering a wide range of holistic boutique treatments in Fullshear, Texas, and Portland, Oregon. Some of her specialties include holistic pelvic care and TMJ care. Which she describes in her podcast with Dr. Julia Ward’s podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-functional-edge-with-dr-julia-ward/id1794557606?i=1000720918959. Topics we cover a wide and varied in this episode. We discuss pelvic diaphragm work, self-care for the practitioner, how we approach our work, Bali, and integrating our neurodivergence and how we became aware that we are both neurodivergent. I am very excited to share our love for how we listen and practice embodied presence within our work. Dr. Maria’s website is www.om3body.com/, and now for the conversation with Dr. Maria. Somatic Touch © 2023 by Kirstie Segarra is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0

    1h 12m

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Some things I love—fascia and bones with a detective mystery. I am practicing manual osteopath and structural integrator and love working with the connective tissue of the body and the holistic systems of the body. I am also a long-time educator in the field of bodywork and movement. My hope is to share some insights in the fields I practice.I am generalist in my practice, which means I do a little of everything and there are some areas I focus on such as neurodivergence, trauma, birth work and chronic pain.    As an educator, I am connected with many people in my fields of study and my hope is to share their experiences and expertise within the discussions we have.   In the new podcast I will begin with interviewing folks starting with the field of Structural Integration (SI). I want to unveil some sticky points in our field and take an honest look at some bias that has happened due to how the lineage was set up by Dr. Ida Rolf. In the future, I hope to interview a broader range of innovators in the field of fascia.

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