The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast with Julian Issa

Julian Issa

The future feels exciting but a little scary. We're here to help guide you through it. How? 1. Building stronger, more abundant mindsets. 2. Shining a spotlight on the technologies of tomorrow. 3. Identifying the latest longevity & health protocols. Health, longevity, human potential and AI. It's great to have you here. Julian

  1. 3d ago

    MIT Professor & AI Doomer Admits He Was WRONG (Ramesh Raskar)

    What happens when millions of people hand their lives to AI agents, and nobody has built the rules of the road? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. MIT Media Lab professor Ramesh Raskar argues the real danger isn't the AI engine, it's agents with no governance. His case: decentralize AI so billions of people run their own agents, and build the licences, inspections and audit trails agents need, instead of trusting a few labs to make the engine safe. His P(doom) has fallen from 90% to under 10%. The conversation covers what an AI agent actually is, personal agents like Dot, Muse, Instinct and CC, the DRIVE framework for gradually trusting an agent, why there's no such thing as "zero-shot AGI," the OpenAI and Hugging Face incident, prompt injection, and the shift from an attention economy to an intention economy. One question runs through it all: can we get the benefits of AI agents without handing control to a handful of companies, or to the agents themselves? Ramesh's answer: don't just build better engines, build the roads, the rules and the governance. Key Takeaways An agent is an LLM in a loop with tools: the LLM is the engine, the agent is the car, the internet is the road. Build trust with DRIVE (Discover, Request, Instruct, Venture, Execute), and start with reversible tasks, no credit cards. Decentralized agents shrink the blast radius, which is why Ramesh's P(doom) has dropped sharply. Cost is the bottleneck: running an agent per user costs far more than serving a social media user, so expect revenue-share deals. Prompt injection is the top risk because LLMs can't separate commands from content. Agents need licences, inspection stickers and audit trails. About Ramesh Raskar Ramesh Raskar is a professor at the MIT Media Lab, where he works on decentralized AI and the Internet of Agents. His research focuses on how personal AI agents can be built so power stays distributed instead of concentrated in a few companies. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 00:00 Why AI Is Moving So Fast: The Intelligence Economy 01:27 What Is an AI Agent, Really? 04:00 Ramesh's P(Doom) Update 05:46 Is Decentralized AI Safer Than Centralized AI? 09:54 How to Use Personal AI Agents (Dot, Muse, Instinct) 13:35 Will AI Agents Become the New Super App? 17:44 The Agentic Web Explained 20:14 Can Personal Superintelligence Exist? 25:17 A Model That Learns How to Learn Everything 29:19 AI Literacy: What to Do If You're Not Using AI 31:16 From OpenClaw to Muse 36:25 It's Not About Bigger Models, It's About Better Agents 37:51 Road Safety Rules for AI Agents 42:58 What a Safe Agentic World Looks Like 44:23 Surfing the Web With AI Agents 48:44 Voice, Screens or Taps? The Future of Agent Interfaces 50:05 Where Will AI Agents Be in One Year? 53:00 The Best Advice on Agent Autonomy 55:12 The Best Things AI Agents Can Do Today 57:12 Prompt Injection: The Command vs Content Problem 01:03:35 If Tomorrow was Your Last Day... Resources & Mentions Muse (Meta): https://muse.ai  Dots (OpenAI): https://siliconangle.com/2026/09/29/openai-launches-dots-always-on-ai-agents-in-chatgpt-with-their-own-cloud-computers/  OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai  Hermes Agent (Nous Research): https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/  Connect with Ramesh:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raskar    MIT Media Lab: https://www.media.mit.edu/people/raskar/overview/  Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Watch the full episode on YouTube, or catch it on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. For more conversations from the edge of what's possible, sign up for updates here.

  2. Oct 2

    Ex-DeepMind Scientist WARNS: Why We Still Can’t Trust Today’s AI

    Is "AI is dangerous" a warning, or the world's best marketing line? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. On this episode of Beyond Tomorrow, I sit down with Thore Graepel, co-creator of AlphaGo and former researcher at Google DeepMind. I asked him straight up how close we are to superintelligence, and his answer surprised me: there won't be a single moment we can point to, and he argues human organizations like companies already count as a form of superintelligence. We get into why he thinks "AI will destroy humanity" is the biggest myth in the field, the near-term risks he does take seriously, and why I pushed him on the incentives behind the AI safety messaging coming from the labs. From there we go deep on his core technical argument: that today's transformers are black boxes that mix knowledge and reasoning in the same weights, and that scaling alone will never make them trustworthy. He lays out a different approach built on explicit beliefs, hypotheses and evidence, and I found it one of the clearest explanations of AI transparency I've heard. In the back half, we talk about his time at Altos Labs, why biology is a reality check for the "cure all disease in 10 years" claims, and his cell annealing theory of rejuvenation. Key Takeaways Thore sees AI progress as a "jagged frontier," not a single superintelligence moment, and by his own definition, AGI is already here He argues companies and institutions are already a form of superintelligence His P(doom) is very low: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and he doesn't see it About Thore Graepel Thore Graepel is a computer scientist and AI researcher who recently left Google DeepMind, where he was a co-creator of AlphaGo and worked on multi-agent systems, reasoning and consciousness research. He has also spent time at Altos Labs, applying his machine learning and physics background to cellular rejuvenation, and writes about AI, reasoning and safety on Substack. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 00:06 How Close Are We to Superintelligence? 01:42 Are Human Organizations Already Superintelligent? 02:56 Is Anyone Trying to Destroy Humanity? 04:45 Near-Term Risks: Jobs and the Economy 08:08 Why the Transition Will Be Hard 10:06 Post-AGI Planning and the Case for Positive Futures 14:35 Capability vs. Diffusion: The Train Driver Problem 16:46 Optimization vs. Game Theory 18:53 The Incentives Behind AI Safety Messaging 22:26 What Is Thore's P(doom)? 23:25 Why Transformers Are Black Boxes 29:19 How Do We Build Safer, More Transparent AI? 33:01 Separating Knowledge From Reasoning 37:39 Safety vs. Capability and the Trust Ceiling 39:45 Narrow AI vs. General AI 44:02 Do You Believe in God? 47:15 Consciousness and Whether LLMs Are Alive 51:08 AlphaGo and Move 37 58:29 Credit Assignment and Moral Reasoning 01:04:31 Who Sets the Moral Guardrails? 01:09:37 The AGI Race: US vs. China 01:11:53 Longevity and Altos Labs 01:16:01 The Biology Reality Check 01:23:04 Pockets of Computability and AlphaFold 01:26:05 Yamanaka Factors and Cell Annealing 01:35:51 Will the Singularity Happen in Your Lifetime? 01:36:49 Rapid Fire Questions with Thore 01:41:35 Thore's Best Piece of Advice Resources & Mentions AlphaGo and AlphaFold (Google DeepMind) Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman Altos Labs Stephen Wolfram's "pockets of computability" David Deutsch on simulation and the limits of experiment Thore's Substack  Connect with Thore:  Github: https://thoregraepel.github.io/  LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/thoregraepel  X: https://x.com/ThoreG  Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com

  3. Sep 24

    Dr Mike Israetel: ‘’ALMOST EVERY American Should Be On GLP-1s, Here’s Why!’’

    What if vanity was actually the smart way into a longer, healthier life? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. Their mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. On this episode of Beyond Tomorrow, Dr. Mike Israetel breaks down what's actually happening in his own bloodstream: 5mg/week of tirzepatide year-round, plus retatrutide during fat-loss phases, and why he thinks “GLP-2” is a gray-market marketing term with no basis in real receptor biology. He walks through the non-weight-loss case for these drugs, reduced systemic and neural inflammation, better glucose control, emerging anti-cancer data, and a documented drop in addictive behaviors from gambling to alcohol to cigarettes, before getting honest about the tradeoffs: undernutrition, anhedonia, and a long-term data set that, by his own admission, will never be “complete enough” for some critics. From there the conversation moves into gray-market peptides, why Mike separates his own risk tolerance from what he'd recommend to the public, and why there currently isn't a single peptide he'd recommend for muscle growth despite the demand. The back half covers his real thesis: that appearance, not health, is the most reliable motivator most people actually respond to and that chasing it tends to produce the same outcomes doctors have failed for decades to sell through fear. Key Takeaways Mike takes tirzepatide (Zepbound/Mounjaro) year-round at 5mg/week and adds retatrutide during cutting phases, both well within studied dose ranges He argues most GLP-1 “anhedonia” is caloric-deficit anhedonia, not a direct drug effect, the same thing bodybuilders experience on any aggressive diet New aggregate mortality data shows older adults on GLP-1s die less than those who aren't, which he says partially answers the “but will it kill you later” question There is currently no peptide he'd recommend for muscle growth, a claim he says consistently disappoints people who ask His core argument: use appearance as the entry point (build muscle, lose fat, sleep better) and let the longevity benefits follow, rather than trying to motivate people with 30-years-out health outcomes Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:10 Is GLP-1 a Bad Idea? 08:55 The Seatbelt Analogy for Drugs 10:30 The Peptide That's Not FDA-Approved Yet 11:30 Exactly What Mike Takes Every Week 13:59 Stacking Peptides: an N-of-1 Experiment 15:11 Why Mike Takes Anabolic Steroids 16:42 The Drug That Could Replace Steroids 18:48 Why Mike Takes Tirzepatide and Retatrutide 21:45 20-Year Life Extension 25:34 Mike's Full Daily Stack 30:47 The Looksmaxxing Trojan Horse 35:35 Sick Care vs. Health Care 38:14 Three Exercises You Can Do Today 40:36 Critiquing Brian Johnson's Protocol 43:31 Is There a One-Size-Fits-All Workout? 46:06 Zone 2 vs. Zone 5 Training 52:21 Why Most Biohacking Is a Waste of Money 54:01 Is HIIT Still the Rage? 57:09 Escaping Poverty, Fueling Success 01:04:53 Why People Take Extreme Measures to Look Good 01:08:24 Moving Past GLP-1 01:14:52 Everyone Will Look 22 by 2037 01:18:24 Would You Date a 90-Year-Old? 01:24:52 Beauty Standards in a Post-GLP-1 World 01:25:37 The Cybernetic Revolution 01:28:25 Living Forever in a Robot Body 01:36:29 Will AI Cause Human Extinction? 01:43:28 The Biggest Myth About Weight Loss 01:44:02 Rapid Fire Questions with Mike 01:48:06 Mike's Best Piece of Advice Connect with Mike: Website: rpstrength.com/ Facebook: facebook.com/michael.israetel Instagram: @drmikeisraetel X: @misraetel Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com

  4. Sep 17

    AI Safety Expert Roman Yampolskiy WARNS About the TWO Likely Endings with AI

    What happens when the technology we build becomes smarter than the people who built it? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow AI safety researcher Roman Yampolskiy argues the real danger isn't AI, it's building a superintelligence we can no longer control. His case: solve problems with narrow, powerful tools instead, and still get breakthroughs in medicine, science, and productivity, without that risk. The conversation covers AGI, recursive self-improvement, the singularity, and the existential and "suffering" risks they raise, plus what mass automation could mean for work and purpose. From international AI agreements to human longevity, one question runs through it all: can we get the benefits of advanced AI without losing control of it? Yampolskiy's answer: keep building tools, not our replacement. Roman Yampolskiy is an AI safety researcher and professor who studies the risks and implications of artificial intelligence. His work focuses on the challenge of controlling increasingly capable AI systems and the potential consequences of superintelligence. Roman’s book, AI: Unexplainable, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable, explores the various reasons why the field is so challenging. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:43 Can We Build AI By Design to Avoid Catastrophe? 01:49 AI Superintelligence Is a Death Sentence 03:12 What Is AGI, Really? 04:26 OpenAI's Plan to Build an Internal AGI 04:59 Why Superintelligence Won't Care About Us 06:45 We're Going to Die Anyway... So What? 07:06 We Can't Control Something This Advanced 07:55 The Narrow Tools That Avoid AGI 09:34 The US vs China AI Race 10:47 Does China Actually Want to Stop AGI? 11:53 AGI Is a Spectrum, Not a Switch 12:22 Is Roman Selling the Doom Narrative? 14:13 How to Stop AGI From Escaping the Box 16:26 Building AI We Can't Control 18:05 Suffering Risks: The Worst-Case Scenario 20:09 The Two Types of Jobs 22:09 What Happens to the 90% Who Lose Their Jobs? 23:46 Nothing Makes AI Labs Stop 24:26 Building Something You Can't Control 26:06 Do You Believe in God? 29:28 Longevity Escape Velocity Without AGI 30:55 Is Suffering Necessary for the Human Story? 31:33 Are We Living in a Simulation? 32:12 You Can't Control Superintelligence 33:24 Is Our Life a Simulation? 35:05 Curing Aging With Narrow AI Tools 36:10 What Is an NPC? 36:37 Could Humans Cause Doom Before AI Does? 37:21 How to Break Out of a Simulation 39:14 Would You Live Forever in a Simulation? 40:01 Don't Build Superintelligence 41:50 Bostrom's Singleton Theory 43:17 "AI Is Massively Overhyped" 44:56 Would AI Doom Be Worse Than World War 3? 45:41 Who Should You Actually Be Listening To? 47:43 What Would a Perfect Simulation Look Like? 50:52 Solving Longevity Without AI 52:03 Our Limited Understanding of Human Biology 52:40 What Makes Roman Happy? 53:48 Signs Governments Are Waking Up 55:14 "Is AI Just a Con?" 56:53 Can Squirrels Control Humans? 58:27 Decide What to Do With Your Time 59:22 What About Ilya Sutskever? 01:00:13 The Responsible Use of Technology 01:00:46 If Tomorrow is Your Last Day... Connect with Roman:  Website: https://www.romanyampolskiy.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roman.yampolskiy/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romanyam/  X: https://x.com/romanyam  Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/   LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa   Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Get exciting updates from The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast here: https://dlogos.xyz/podcasts/the-beyond-tomorrow-podcast-with-julian-issa-7bf16e9d

  5. Sep 10

    DAVID EAGLEMAN: The END of Human Presidents is COMING. Should We Worry?

    Could an AI actually run the country better than a person could? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow David Eagleman doesn't shy away from the question. He lays out the case for an AI president, one that could crunch more data than any human cabinet, sidestep the ego and grudges that shape so many political decisions, and maybe even out-think our worst instincts. Sounds great, until you ask the harder questions. Who writes the code that decides what "the greater good" means? Can a machine actually be moral, or just really good at faking it? And if an AI ever did hold real power, who's holding the leash? We get into all of it: democracy, tribalism, consciousness, and how close we actually are to AGI. David doesn't pretend to have it all figured out but he makes a compelling case that the ground is shifting faster than most of us realize. David Eagleman is a neuroscientist at Stanford University and an internationally bestselling author. He is co-founder of several neurotech companies, including Jojo, BrainCheck, and Neosensory, and he also directs the Center for Science and Law, a national non-profit institute. He is best known for his work on sensory substitution, time perception, brain plasticity, synesthesia, and neurolaw. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:05 Are We in the Middle of AGI? 03:26 AI’s Greatest Advantage 04:25 The Case for a Utilitarian AI President 07:16 Who Defines AI’s Parameters? 09:06 The Danger of Politically Biased AI 11:49 Behind the Scenes 12:33 Are We Ready for an AI President? 14:41 What Should an AI Government Optimize For? 18:31 How Soon Could We Have an AI President? 22:24 The Trolley Problem and AI Morality 27:54 What Happens When Humans Have Too Much Free Time? 29:07 The Neuroscience of Tribalism 30:13 The Neural Basis of Empathy 31:24 Why We’re Wired for Us vs. Them 32:43 Can AI Become Conscious? 33:51 Could AI Eradicate Humanity? 35:51 Artificial Wisdom and AI Guardrails 38:57 AGI Is Already Happening 41:22 An AI President in Our Lifetime 43:26 The Biggest Fear About AI Connect with David:  Website: https://eagleman.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/David.M.Eagleman  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davideagleman/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davideagleman  X: https://x.com/davideagleman  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drdavideagleman   Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/   LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa   Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube for more stories from the edge of what is possible.

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The future feels exciting but a little scary. We're here to help guide you through it. How? 1. Building stronger, more abundant mindsets. 2. Shining a spotlight on the technologies of tomorrow. 3. Identifying the latest longevity & health protocols. Health, longevity, human potential and AI. It's great to have you here. Julian

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