The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast with Julian Issa

Julian Issa

Our mission at Beyond Tomorrow is to build a world where anyone can flourish. For the first time, AI and longevity are making that a possibility. Every conversation & debate is about bringing that reality one step closer. Hit follow to join us on the journey. Julian

  1. 1d ago

    Beyond Tomorrow New Trailer

    I have a strong conviction that the next chapter in the human story will bring incredible opportunity and abundance to us all if we take the right steps. At Beyond Tomorrow, we want to help steward that transition. After all, our mission is to help build a world where anyone can flourish. Thank you for being part of our journey Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    Beyond Tomorrow New Trailer

  2. 6d ago

    AI EXPERTS REVEAL: It’s Too Late! We Can't Stop What's Coming

    Everyone agrees we can’t pause AI. So what do we do instead? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. Five people who think about AI for a living sit down for a rapid-fire debate, and the host throws a handful of big statements at them. First up: can we, or should we, pause AI? Almost nobody says yes, and the more interesting part is what they’d do instead. Some want to slow the frontier, some want to shape it as it goes, and one is trying to seed a beneficial AGI before someone else builds a worse one. From there the panel gets into recursive self-improvement and whether you can keep an AI’s goals stable, whether AI will widen the gap between rich and poor (and rich and poor countries), and who foots the bill when jobs disappear. Then comes the question of why experts and the public see AI so differently. Media, culture, and trust all take some blame. The last stretch compares a Manhattan Project approach with open, decentralized AGI, and everyone gets to say the one thing they think the world needs right now, plus a parting sentence. Key Takeaways Nearly everyone calls a pause a non-starter: “AI” is too fuzzy to define, and a pause would just push work underground Keeping an AI’s goals stable while it rewrites itself may be a solvable engineering problem, but not everyone agrees that’s even desirable On inequality, the panel splits between “it’s already happening” and “the floor keeps rising” Public opinion on AI is shaped more by culture and media than by the tech itself The alternative to corporate control or a government Manhattan Project: open, decentralized AGI, in the spirit of Linux Meet the Panelists: Ben Goertzel is the CEO of SingularityNET and Executive Chairman & Chief Scientist of BGI Labs who popularized the term “artificial general intelligence.” He’s building open-source, decentralized AGI. Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist and AI researcher focused on models of the mind and consciousness. He’s known for his philosophical takes on AI and ethics. Kai Bickell is co-founder and Chief Ethics Officer of OpenBGI, working on a decentralized AI moral constitution. He’s also a survivor advocate honored by CHILD USA. AJ Green is Executive Director of The AI Collective, the world’s largest AI nonprofit community.  Catherine McMillan is Chief Operating Officer of The AI Collective. She helps run its global network of chapters and events. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 01:11 Can We Pause AI? 08:50 Would AGI Actually Kill Us All? 10:16 What’s Really Behind the Pause AI Debate 13:40 How People Really Use AI Day to Day 18:49 Can Self-Improving AI Stay Moral? 20:46 How to Build a Moral AGI 26:43 Will AI Widen the Wealth Gap? 32:36 What a Beneficial Superintelligence Looks Like 37:11 Will AI Destroy More Jobs Than It Creates? 39:28 Society’s Bumpy Transition to AGI 49:56 How the World Sees AI 51:54 Why Culture Shapes Our View of AI 01:03:04 Was AI Ever a Manhattan Project? 01:10:50 Fear, Awareness, and the Public Knowledge Gap 01:12:24 Who’s Funding the AI Narrative? 01:15:26 The Case for Open, Decentralized AGI Connect with Ben Website: https://singularitynet.io/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel  Connect with Kai Website: https://singularitynet.io/  Connect with AJ Website: https://www.aicollective.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aj-green-ai  Connect with Catherine Website: https://catherine-mcmillan.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-r-mcmillan  Connect with Joscha Website: http://bach.ai/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joschabach/  Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa  LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    AI EXPERTS REVEAL: It’s Too Late! We Can't Stop What's Coming

  3. Oct 22

    ROBOTICS PROFESSOR: "AI Is Becoming Self-Aware! Here’s the Biggest Danger!"

    Is “AI will destroy humanity” a real risk, or a story we tell ourselves because we haven’t done the hard engineering? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. This conversation opens with a simple question to roboticist Hod Lipson, the mind behind Emo: does he feel like a villain? His answer is honest. He’s both excited and terrified, like someone being told an alien race is about to arrive and being asked whether to welcome them. From there, the discussion turns to why robot faces are so hard to build, and why he thinks the moment a robot genuinely smiles back at you will change how we connect with machines. Then it gets into the harder questions. Hod is firm that AI won’t wipe out humanity, and he’s challenged more than once on superintelligence, on who benefits from the fear, and on whether nested sandboxes and “AI cops” can really keep us safe. The conversation also explores what it means for a robot to be self-aware, robots that repair and even “eat” each other, why he worries about kids and students whose best friend is an AI, and how any of us finds meaning when machines can do almost everything. It closes with the best advice he’s ever been given. About Hod Lipson Hod Lipson is a roboticist and AI researcher who leads work on Emo, a robot focused on realistic facial expression and lip movement. His research spans robot self-awareness, self-repairing and self-reproducing robots, and AI in agriculture. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 00:08 Do You Feel Like a Villain? The AI Disaster Question 00:59 Robot Faces Are Next 03:49 Why Do We Need a Robot Face? 05:58 Robots That Look More Human-Like 07:50 Are You Scared? 08:42 “We Earned It” as a Human Race 10:40 The Benefits of Developing AI 15:07 Could AI Go Against Us? 17:42 Regulation, Liability and the FDA Analogy 20:00 Meet Emo 23:56 How Will We Interact With Robots in 2030? 27:00 Can a Humanoid Say No to You? 29:24 Do We Lose Skills to Technology? 32:24 Hod’s P(doom) Number: Zero 34:54 AI Is Limited to a Small Part of Our Life 37:42 Can You Switch Off All Robots? 40:44 Is the Doomer Movement Marketing? 43:40 Using AI to Make AI Safer 46:23 Why AI Can’t Kill Us All 50:07 China Leads in Robotics 52:12 Can Robots Develop Awareness? 58:12 The ChatGPT Moment for Robotics 59:28 A Robot Best Friend for a Child? 01:00:26 Would You Let a Robot Babysit? 01:01:53 Self-Awareness in Robots 01:03:42 The Weirdest Things People Will Do With Robots 01:05:10 Building and Maintaining Robots: Robot Metabolism 01:08:41 Exciting Possibilities With Physical Robots 01:10:22 Humans Are Evolving Too 01:13:04 The Pyramid of Needs: Finding Meaning 01:17:35 The Best Piece of Advice 01:18:58 If Tomorrow Was Your Last Day Connect with Hod:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hod-lipson-4018189  Website: https://www.hodlipson.com/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HodLipson1  Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B008VGBM8E/allbooks  Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ / https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/  LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa  X: https://x.com/juliankissa  Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Watch the full episode on YouTube, or catch it on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. For more conversations from the edge of what's possible, sign up for updates here. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    ROBOTICS PROFESSOR: "AI Is Becoming Self-Aware! Here’s the Biggest Danger!"

  4. Oct 20

    BT Clip: Exercise Scientist on Weight Loss Drugs (Mike Israetel)

    Do we really know enough about GLP-1 drugs? Mike Israetel breaks down the risks and trade-offs, from anhedonia and calorie-deprived diets to cognitive distortion and the myth of a “zero-harm” default. Watch the full episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4iHXkGzLvxSU87rzOHNvlq?si=361782122faa4ea9 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    BT Clip: Exercise Scientist on Weight Loss Drugs (Mike Israetel)

  5. Oct 15

    4 Longevity Legends Debate Each Other About Human Flourishing

    What if the fastest way to a longer life isn't a miracle drug, but a wartime mentality against aging? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. Curious about quantum energy wellness? Check out Leela Quantum Tech. Check out https://leelaq.com/   On this episode of Beyond Tomorrow, four heavyweights of the longevity field take a rapid-fire statement format and turn it into a real debate. Aubrey de Grey, Alex Zhavoronkov (Insilico Medicine), George Church (Harvard Medical School), Michael Ringel (Life Biosciences) argue over whether hype helps or hurts the field, and when longevity escape velocity, the point where damage is repaired faster than it accumulates, might actually arrive. Aubrey puts it at a 50/50 chance within 12 to 15 years. Alex says 20 to 50 years and doubts drugs alone can get there. Michael pushes back on the idea of infinite lifespans entirely, while George suggests we may already be gaining years without the evidence to prove it. From there the panel digs into the FDA's new interest in aging, why the TAME metformin trial never opened the floodgates, and whether AI will really shrink clinical timelines. George cites a gene therapy that reached a patient in seven months, while Alex, running many programs, argues that biology still moves at the speed of traffic. The back half covers biohacking and early adopters, the gap between everyday "longevity" and longevity biotechnology, the science of epigenetic reprogramming, what could happen by the XPRIZE Healthspan deadline in 2030, and what each panelist thinks the "ChatGPT moment" for longevity will look like. About the Panelists Aubrey de Grey has spent his entire career in the nonprofit sector, coined the term longevity escape velocity, and has been signed up with Alcor for cryonic preservation since 2002. Alex Zhavoronkov is the founder and CEO of Insilico Medicine, a public biotech company with a large pipeline of drug programs that uses AI to compress early discovery work. George Church is a Harvard Medical School geneticist and an optimist on gene therapy and exponential technologies, who argues that regulators embrace new technology and that trial parallelism could dramatically cut development time. Michael Ringel left a career at BCG to join Life Biosciences as chief operating officer, where he works on epigenetic restoration as a path to treating age-related disease and, ultimately, aging itself. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 00:20 Is Hype Necessary for Longevity? 02:49 When Hype Goes Too Far 04:14 When Can Longevity Escape Velocity Happen? 09:52 The FDA and Aging as a Focus Area 19:49 Will AI Transform Longevity Research? 24:04 Can AI Shorten Clinical Trials? 26:57 AI Optimists vs. Skeptics 28:38 Alex on Being the Field’s Biggest Skeptic 32:00 Do Critics Need a Drug in the Clinic? 35:24 When Criticism Does Harm 36:45 Is Biohacking Hurting Longevity’s Credibility? 46:57 What Could Be Possible by 2030? 50:49 Optimism vs. Skepticism: Final Thoughts 54:01 Cryonics 54:36 The Longevity “ChatGPT Moment” Connect with Aubrey:  X: https://x.com/aubreydegrey  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aubrey-de-grey-24260b  Connect with Alex:  X: https://x.com/biogerontology  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhavoronkov  Connect with George:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-church-2b86301  Website: https://colossal.com/george-church/  Connect with Michael:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-ringel-b272a2  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msringel/  Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    4 Longevity Legends Debate Each Other About Human Flourishing

  6. Oct 13

    BT Clip: Can We Escape The Simulation? (Roman Yampolskiy)

    Are we living in a simulation? Dr. Roman Yampolskiy explains how scientists run experiments inside simulations, why boxing AI may not hold, and what it would mean if AI breaks out of its safe environment, or if humanity escapes its own. Watch the full episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2R7oKzVSOWTR5079TYrZsg?si=7fd6c78a016a4b67 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    BT Clip: Can We Escape The Simulation? (Roman Yampolskiy)

  7. Oct 8

    MIT Professor & AI Doomer Admits He Was WRONG (Ramesh Raskar)

    What happens when millions of people hand their lives to AI agents, and nobody has built the rules of the road? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow. MIT Media Lab professor Ramesh Raskar argues the real danger isn't the AI engine, it's agents with no governance. His case: decentralize AI so billions of people run their own agents, and build the licences, inspections and audit trails agents need, instead of trusting a few labs to make the engine safe. His P(doom) has fallen from 90% to under 10%. The conversation covers what an AI agent actually is, personal agents like Dot, Muse, Instinct and CC, the DRIVE framework for gradually trusting an agent, why there's no such thing as "zero-shot AGI," the OpenAI and Hugging Face incident, prompt injection, and the shift from an attention economy to an intention economy. One question runs through it all: can we get the benefits of AI agents without handing control to a handful of companies, or to the agents themselves? Ramesh's answer: don't just build better engines, build the roads, the rules and the governance. Key Takeaways An agent is an LLM in a loop with tools: the LLM is the engine, the agent is the car, the internet is the road. Build trust with DRIVE (Discover, Request, Instruct, Venture, Execute), and start with reversible tasks, no credit cards. Decentralized agents shrink the blast radius, which is why Ramesh's P(doom) has dropped sharply. Cost is the bottleneck: running an agent per user costs far more than serving a social media user, so expect revenue-share deals. Prompt injection is the top risk because LLMs can't separate commands from content. Agents need licences, inspection stickers and audit trails. About Ramesh Raskar Ramesh Raskar is a professor at the MIT Media Lab, where he works on decentralized AI and the Internet of Agents. His research focuses on how personal AI agents can be built so power stays distributed instead of concentrated in a few companies. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00  Intro 00:00 Why AI Is Moving So Fast: The Intelligence Economy 01:27 What Is an AI Agent, Really? 04:00 Ramesh's P(Doom) Update 05:46 Is Decentralized AI Safer Than Centralized AI? 09:54 How to Use Personal AI Agents (Dot, Muse, Instinct) 13:35 Will AI Agents Become the New Super App? 17:44 The Agentic Web Explained 20:14 Can Personal Superintelligence Exist? 25:17 A Model That Learns How to Learn Everything 29:19 AI Literacy: What to Do If You're Not Using AI 31:16 From OpenClaw to Muse 36:25 It's Not About Bigger Models, It's About Better Agents 37:51 Road Safety Rules for AI Agents 42:58 What a Safe Agentic World Looks Like 44:23 Surfing the Web With AI Agents 48:44 Voice, Screens or Taps? The Future of Agent Interfaces 50:05 Where Will AI Agents Be in One Year? 53:00 The Best Advice on Agent Autonomy 55:12 The Best Things AI Agents Can Do Today 57:12 Prompt Injection: The Command vs Content Problem 01:03:35 If Tomorrow was Your Last Day... Resources & Mentions Muse (Meta): https://muse.ai  Dots (OpenAI): https://siliconangle.com/2026/09/29/openai-launches-dots-always-on-ai-agents-in-chatgpt-with-their-own-cloud-computers/  OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai  Hermes Agent (Nous Research): https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/  Connect with Ramesh:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raskar    MIT Media Lab: https://www.media.mit.edu/people/raskar/overview/  Connect with Julian Instagram: @thebeyondtomorrowpodcast / @juliankissa LinkedIn: julian-issa X: @juliankissa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Email: bookings@beyondtomorrowpodcast.com  Watch the full episode on YouTube, or catch it on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. For more conversations from the edge of what's possible, sign up for updates here. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    MIT Professor & AI Doomer Admits He Was WRONG (Ramesh Raskar)

  8. Oct 6

    BT Clip: Scientist Exposes The Dangers of AI Super Intelligence (Roman Yampolskiy)

    AI safety researcher Roman Yampolskiy breaks down his P(doom) estimate and why he believes artificial superintelligence could be a death sentence for humanity if development keeps moving this fast. His warning isn't anti-AI — it's a case for keeping AI as a tool we control, not a replacement for human judgment. Watch the full episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2R7oKzVSOWTR5079TYrZsg?si=302dfca33e9f4c04 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    BT Clip: Scientist Exposes The Dangers of AI Super Intelligence (Roman Yampolskiy)
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