We'll Sleep When We're Dead

We'll Sleep When We're Dead

We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life. This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there. New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

  1. May 26

    Stay or Leave? Why That's the Wrong Question — with WorkMom's Mel Goodman

    If you've ever felt trapped between staying in your career or walking away entirely — this episode is for you. We're back with returning guest Mel Goodman of Work Mom, and we're going deeper than our first conversation about the mental load. Today we're tackling the question so many moms are quietly asking right now: do I stay or do I go? And Mel's here to tell you why that binary is keeping you stuck. In this episode we cover:     •    Why you can't make a sound career decision when you're in a state of depletion — and what to do first     •    The 12 career options (yes, 12) that working moms actually have, organized into 6 clusters     •    What a "portfolio career" is and why it might be the bridge so many in-between moms are looking for     •    Fractional work, job sharing, consulting — what they really require and if they're right for you     •    The identity load: why leaving corporate feels like losing yourself     •    What it means to "redefine success" in your current role without quitting     •    The 3 questions every overwhelmed working mom should sit with right now Mel also responds to a listener message about using AI as a life coach to work through the constant oscillation between career ambition and wanting to be present for her kids — and it's one of the most relatable moments we've had on the podcast. Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in the in-between, this episode will meet you exactly where you are. Find Mel at https://www.workmom.io/about Email us: wswd.podcast@gmail.com Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: @WSWWD

    45 min
  2. May 12

    Quitting the Corporate Ladder to Be a Present Dad — and Going Viral Doing It, with Jason Eadie

    What does it take to walk away from a successful corporate career to become a full-time dad and content creator? This week, we sit down with Jason Eadie — creator, entrepreneur and father of 4. As the face behind the wildly popular social media account 4KidsCallMeDad, Jason comes on to talk about career pivots, intentional parenting, and betting on yourself even when there's no safety net. Jason shares his journey from Ernst & Young accountant to med device sales rep at Stryker, to full-time content creator with millions of followers — and why he has zero regrets. We dig into what it really looks like to document family life authentically, how he thinks about his kids' presence on social media, the truth about travel sports and whether it's actually worth it, and the one question he asks his kids after every single game that has nothing to do with the score. In this episode we cover: ​Leaving a stable corporate career to follow your passion​Building an authentic brand around real family moments​Kids and social media — the honest conversation​Travel sports culture and what actually matters​Raising resilient kids through setbacks and disappointment​Why Jason thinks the whole retirement system is backwardsFollow Jason @4kidscallmedad Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    45 min
  3. Apr 28

    Disney Drama, Trying Mahjong for the First Time & Our Recording Fell Apart

    If you've ever Googled "toddler night wakings won't stop" at 2 a.m., you're not alone — and this episode was made for you. Lucy gets candid about the reality of parenting through sleep deprivation, toddler sleep regression, and those exhausting night wakings that no sleep training book quite prepares you for. Instead of another rigid routine to follow, she offers a game-changing mindset shift: learning to see sleepless nights as a season — not a permanent sentence. Then, Sam shares everything she learned from traveling to Disney World with young kids — and it's not the fairy tale you might expect. From navigating massive crowds and managing toddler meltdowns mid-park, to her honest Disney ride strategy and which overhyped attractions simply aren't worth your time or money, she gives you the practical family travel tips no glossy Disney guide will tell you. Whether you're planning your first Disney trip with a toddler or trying to survive your second, her real-talk advice will help you set realistic expectations and actually enjoy the trip. Finally, Lucy closes with something a little unexpected: picking up Mahjong as a total adult beginner. It's a reminder that adult learning, social connection, and trying something completely new aren't luxuries — they're survival tools for the modern parent. Learn more about Meet at Mahj https://meetatmahj.com/ Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    25 min
  4. Apr 21

    Madeline Custer on Postpartum Fitness, Real Mom Life & the 30-Minute Workout

    We are joined by Madeline Custer, the fitness expert and mom of three behind Madeline Moves. If you've ever felt lost after a C-section, overwhelmed by your postpartum body, or like you just don't have time to work out, this one's for you. Madeline opens up about her journey through miscarriage, three C-sections, and an unexpected third pregnancy — and how each experience shaped her mission to create accessible fitness resources for moms. We dig into why strength training beats cardio for long-term results, how 30 minutes can be enough (really), and what actually gives when you're a mom prioritizing her health. We also get into her easy high-protein meal hacks for the moms who hate cooking, her upcoming Move Together 5-week challenge, and the mindset shift that changed everything: normal is sacred. Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in between — this conversation will leave you feeling motivated, seen, and ready to pick up some weights. Follow Madeline Custer on Instagram @madeline_moves   Offer: $20 off (get your first month free!) Code: WSWWD Valid Through: 12/31/26 You can enter the code at checkout, or use this link where it’s already applied:  https://app.movesapp.com/checkout?coupon=WSWWD&planId=plan_NhXa7kLhh8BxyV&utm_source=wswwdpodcast This episode is brought to you in part by our sponsors: House of Yes: Head to houseofyesfoods.com and use code WSWWD15 for 15% off your first order Anomaly Health: Go to ⁠⁠tryanomalyhealth.com⁠⁠ and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Email us at wswd.podcast@gmail.com Follow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube @WSWWD

    48 min

Ratings & Reviews

5
out of 5
18 Ratings

About

We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life. This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there. New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

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