How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss

Michelle Markwart Deveaux
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How To Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast where we tackle the uncomfortable truth that the boss making all those questionable decisions is staring right back at you in the mirror every morning. Michelle and Sara are two business strategists who’ve helped hundreds of voice teachers, other music teachers, multi-teacher studio owners, performers, and even those serving these kinds of artists build long-term, money-making businesses while maintaining their values, peace, and creative integrity... After years of being asked to create a podcast, they finally succumbed. And now they are here to share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business courses, or the “I did it, you can too” corner of the internet. Bold discourse that doesn’t shy away from loving your fiercely while telling you the truth about yourself to your face, Sara and Michelle keep it spicy, silly, empowering, and most of all: relevant to today’s business owners in the performing arts. These women are in the trenches every day, they’ve made mistakes, somehow lived to tell about it, and they want to share with you their hard-won thoughts on the personal and professional development needed to run your business, so you fall in love with (AND TRUST!) your boss.

  1. Oct 8

    Episode 13: Never Charge What You’re Worth

    Episode 13: Never Charge What You’re Worth “What should I charge for piano and voice lessons?” “What should I charge for my services?” Pricing questions come up constantly in the creative and arts community. But figuring out what to charge takes a lot more than checking what other people charge or deciding what you’re “worth.” In this episode, Sara and Michelle dig into some of the most common pricing pitfalls: pulling a number out of thin air, copying a mentor’s rates, leaning too heavily on “market rates,” and using high-pressure sales tactics to justify higher prices. Then they take on one of the most common pieces of advice in the coaching world: “charge what you’re worth.” This phrase is bad business advice, and it can also tie your personal worth to the financial value of your services in ways that aren’t healthy. Instead, they introduce a different approach: Pricing for Generosity. This framework starts with the real numbers behind a sustainable business, including what the business needs to earn and how that breaks down into billable units. Along the way, they get into the math connecting annual revenue goals to what you charge per session. And because this is Sara and Michelle, expect plenty of talk about ramen, “I’m so awesome” bucks, and why your electric company refuses to accept personal fabulosity as payment. In This Episode Why artists and creative professionals struggle with pricing Common pricing mistakes and pitfalls What your business needs to earn Why “charge what you’re worth” is problematic Separating personal worth from the value of your services The Pricing for Generosity framework Using data, experimentation, and a little FAFO to find the right price 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Join SECO: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/ ➡️ Get our awesomesauce new FREE course! https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/next ⭐ Support the Show — Pretty Please? 😃 If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen. Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it. Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you! ✨ Stuff We Mentioned The Amazing Jacquette Timmons: https://www.jacquettetimmons.com/ 📖 Her book for couples, Financial Intimacy: Find it on Bookshop.org

  2. Sep 21

    Episode 12: Be a Troubleshooter: The Key to Leveling Up Small Business Acumen

    Episode 12: Be a Troubleshooter: The Key to Leveling Up Small Business Acumen Something in your business breaks. The website goes down, a client's confused, enrollment's dragging, or a piece of software decides today's the day it stops cooperating. Ten minutes later you've gone from "this one thing isn't working" to "everything's on fire and I have no idea what I'm doing." In this episode, we’re talking about troubleshooting — what it means, why it’s such an essential business skill, and how to approach problems without immediately spiraling. We talk about: Why being brilliant at your craft and being good at running a business are two separate skill sets, and nobody handed you a manual for the second one What happens when artists and educators get drafted into being their own IT department overnight How working through problems builds real confidence and self-trust When asking for help is the smart move, and how to ask so you actually get a useful answer A step-by-step way to diagnose what’s actually wrong How to write a support ticket that gets you a real answer instead of a canned one Troubleshooting is a skill worth learning, because every time you work through a problem instead of catastrophizing about it, you give yourself another piece of evidence that you’re capable of running this business. (Oh — and sometimes, yes, you really should just turn it off and turn it back on again!) 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Join SECO: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/ 📝 Free Download — What Your Artist Needs Next: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/next ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you Send us your listener questions and listener tales! DM us @speakeasycooperative on Instagram Email us at hey@faithculturekiss.com with the subject line: Podcast Listener Question/Tale

  3. Aug 24

    Episode 11: What to do when your motivation is in the toilet

    Episode 11: What to Do When Your Motivation Is in the Toilet What do you do when you have a pile of things to accomplish but absolutely no motivation to do any of them? In this episode, we dig into what motivation actually is, why creative entrepreneurs can struggle with it, and why waiting to feel motivated may be keeping us stuck. We talk about the connection between motivation, procrastination, neurodivergence, urgency, and those dreaded “important but not urgent” tasks that eventually become emergencies. And most importantly, we talk about practical ways to get things done when the motivation just isn't there — including changing your environment, reducing friction, using timers, breaking tasks down, and learning to act without waiting for the right feeling. In This Episode How our constantly connected, dopamine-heavy environment affects our tolerance for boredom How neurodivergence or perimenopause can affect motivation and task initiation The three major inputs that influence motivation: physiology, environment, and past experience Why urgency can feel like motivation — and why relying on crisis to get things done can become a trap The difference between important and urgent Practical ways to make difficult tasks easier to start Why sometimes the answer isn't to find motivation at all — it's to make a decision and do the thing anyway About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Join SECO Resources Mentioned 📖 The Disorganized Mind: Coaching Your ADHD Brain to Take Control of Your Time, Tasks, and Talents by Nancy Ratey 📖 Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear 📖 The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business by Charles Duhigg ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you!

  4. Jun 4

    Episode 10: What the Heck is The SpeakEasy Cooperative and Savvy Music Studio?

    Ep 10: What the Heck is The SpeakEasy Cooperative and Savvy Music Studio? After nine episodes of talking business, creativity, leadership, and all the ways we accidentally make our own lives harder, we realized something important: We never properly introduced ourselves. In this episode, Michelle and Sara pull back the curtain and share the stories behind their businesses, their careers, and their partnership. You'll learn how a vocal performance major and a director/educator ended up becoming business coaches and consultants, why collaboration beats competition, and how their work helps artists and creative entrepreneurs build sustainable businesses without sacrificing their values. This is their origin story. 💡 In This Episode: How Sara's journey led from performance and music teaching to founding Savvy Music Studio How Michelle's path evolved from performer, director, and educator to creating The SpeakEasy Cooperative The identity shifts that happen when artists become business owners How Sara and Michelle began working together and how their businesses overlap The programs, services, and resources available through their businesses 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won't find in generic business coaching or "just follow my simple formula" advice. ➡️ Join SECO: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/ ➡️ Email Michelle about Key of CEO: michelle@faithculturekiss.com ➡️ Join The Music Teacher's Marketing Library: https://savvymusicstudio.com/music-teachers-marketing-library/ ➡️ Explore 1:1 Coaching with Sara: https://savvymusicstudio.com/coaching-for-music-teachers/ ➡️ Email just to say hi and tell us what you wanna hear about: hey@faithculturekiss.com ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you

  5. Apr 9

    Episode 9: MTNA Recap: Conversations, Questions, and … Crabs?

    Episode 9: MTNA Recap: Conversations, Questions, and … Crabs? What happens when two business coaches attend a major national music conference? In this episode, Michelle and Sara share their experience from the 2026 Music Teachers National Association conference in Chicago. From the fun and energizing moments to the deeper patterns they observed in how musicians approach business, money, and growth. They go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the mindset shifts required to move from “artist” to confident business owner. 💡 In This Episode: The highs (and exhaustion) of attending a national conference The problem with vague goals like “more students” Scarcity mindset and fear around investing in your business The shift from “pick me” to taking ownership of your career Why financial literacy is a game changer for music teachers You don’t just have a business – you need to learn how to run one. 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Join SECO ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you Mentioned in this Episode: Dr. Joe Welch doing amazing work at Blackburn College in Carlinville, Illinois. Blackburn is the only work college with a student-managed work program.

  6. Mar 18

    Episode 8: Is Your Business Eating You Alive?

    🎙️ Episode 8: Is Your Business Eating You Alive? The problem isn’t your workload. It’s who’s in charge. In this solo episode, Michelle gets real about what it feels like when the business you built starts running you. Not always in dramatic, burnout fashion, but in the quieter, more dangerous ways: constant mental load, reactive decisions, and the slow erosion of your time, energy, and identity. Including one very real moment: trying to take a break over Christmas, visiting family, intentionally leaving the laptop behind… and coming back to a messy business. When your business is running you, it follows you, quietly taking up space in your mind no matter where you are. If you’ve ever felt like your business owns you, like you can’t step away, can’t think clearly, and definitely can’t “just take a break” this episode is for you. In This Episode, We Explore: What it really looks like when your business is “eating you alive” How lack of clarity turns your business into a reactive machine The identity trap of creative entrepreneurship — and why it’s so hard to separate yourself from your work Why over-giving and under-protecting your energy leads to long-term burnout The difference between reacting to your business and actually running it This is about taking back control. Because the truth is, most business owners were never taught how to run a business. You were handed a machine with no manual and expected to figure it out while also doing the work itself. Grab your notebook and pencil, grab your coffee, your tea, or whatever else helps you cope with your business-induced anxiety… and let’s get started! 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Apply for the Accelerator Program: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/how-to-run-your-business-without-hating-your-boss-accelerator/ ➡️ Join SECO: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/ ⭐ Support the Show If this episode hit home: Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next Leave a rating or review to help other creative entrepreneurs find the show Share it with someone who needs this reminder Boa Constrictor by Shel Silverstein Oh, I'm being eaten by a boa constrictor A boa constrictor A boa constrictor I'm being eaten by a boa constrictor And I don't like it - one bit. Well, what do you know? It's nibblin' my toe. Oh, gee, It's up to my knee. Oh my, It’s up to my thigh. Oh, fiddle, It's up to my middle. Oh, heck, It's up to my neck. Oh, dread, It's upmmmmmmmmmmmfffffffffff…

  7. Feb 23

    Episode 7: Getting Off the Hobby Horse (and Building Something Stable)

    🎙️Episode 7: Getting Off the Hobby Horse (and Building Something Stable) At some point, every self-employed creative has to decide: Is this a hobby… or is this a business? In this episode, Michelle and Sara unpack what really happens when you treat your business like a side project instead of the legitimate, revenue-generating entity it actually is. From loosey-goosey bookkeeping to guessing at pricing, ignoring legal responsibilities, and hoping taxes will magically sort themselves out, these “little” habits can quietly sabotage your success. And if you’ve ever had someone imply your work isn’t a “real job”? Yeah. We’re talking about that too. This episode is a loving but firm wake-up call, as well as practical, no-nonsense steps to move from “holy crap, what have I done?” to “I am an official badass business owner!” In This Episode, We Talk About: The difference between hobby energy and CEO energy Why “I just want to help people” is not a business strategy Getting surprised by taxes (and why that keeps happening) The realities of liability, insurance, and data responsibility Why independent teachers, coaches, and creatives deserve real business respect How subtle self-sabotage becomes habitual The mindset shift required to move into legitimate business ownership If you want sustainability, respect, and actual profit, you have to act like a business owner. It’s time to step out of “hobby land” and into real ownership. Grab your notebook and pencil, grab your coffee, your tea, or whatever else helps you cope with your business-induced anxiety… and let’s get started! 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ➡️ Join SECO: https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/ 📝 Mentioned in This Show: Blog: How to Know if You Should Become an LLC Apply for The How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss Accelerator Program ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you

  8. Feb 3

    Episode 6: Ideal Clients or Endless Hustle

    🎙️ Episode 6: Ideal Clients or Endless Hustle “Ideal client” is one of the most talked about (and most avoided) concepts in small business. In this episode, Michelle and Sara dig into what an ideal client truly is, why the idea makes so many business owners uncomfortable, and how skipping this work quietly leads to burnout, resentment, and hating your own business. An ideal client isn’t a perfect unicorn or your new best friend. It’s a tool — a made-up but intentional construct that gives you clarity, language, and boundaries so you can call in the people you serve best and stop saying yes out of fear, ego, or exhaustion. This is unsexy, foundational work, and it affects everything: marketing, pricing, boundaries, emotional energy, and how you feel when you open your calendar. In This Episode, We Talk About: What an “ideal client” really is (and what it is not) The myth that you need to serve everyone to survive “Warm body syndrome” and why it leads to burnout Why avoiding ideal client work leads to resentment in your business Why clarity around your ideal client makes marketing easier How vague messaging (“all genres, all ages”) repels the right people Not all money is good money The new year is a powerful time to reassess relationships, energy, and how you want your business — and your life — to feel. Getting honest about your ideal client is one of the most effective ways to build a business that’s sustainable, ethical, and doesn’t make you dread showing up. 🎧 About the Podcast How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice. ⭐ Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen Share the episode with a fellow business owner who needs to hear it Let us know what topics, myths, or rants you want us to tackle next — we love hearing from you Mentioned in this Episode APPLY FOR HOW TO RUN NOW! https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/how-to-run-your-business-accelerator-application/ The Art of the Inquiry – Michelle Markwart Deveaux https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/art-of-inquiry-revenue-relationships-retention/ ICA as “best case scenario” – Minal Sampat https://www.minalsampat.com/ Join The SpeakEasy Cooperative® today! https://thespeakeasycooperative.com/speakeasy/

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How To Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast where we tackle the uncomfortable truth that the boss making all those questionable decisions is staring right back at you in the mirror every morning. Michelle and Sara are two business strategists who’ve helped hundreds of voice teachers, other music teachers, multi-teacher studio owners, performers, and even those serving these kinds of artists build long-term, money-making businesses while maintaining their values, peace, and creative integrity... After years of being asked to create a podcast, they finally succumbed. And now they are here to share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business courses, or the “I did it, you can too” corner of the internet. Bold discourse that doesn’t shy away from loving your fiercely while telling you the truth about yourself to your face, Sara and Michelle keep it spicy, silly, empowering, and most of all: relevant to today’s business owners in the performing arts. These women are in the trenches every day, they’ve made mistakes, somehow lived to tell about it, and they want to share with you their hard-won thoughts on the personal and professional development needed to run your business, so you fall in love with (AND TRUST!) your boss.

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