The Art of Association

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The Art of Association is a monthly podcast on big themes spanning philanthropy, civil society, and democracy in America – and the interplay between and among these areas. Following Tocqueville, the podcast presumes that the health of democracy depends far more than we realize on our ability to associate with each other in constructive ways. Doing this helps us solve problems we face together and, at the same time, become citizens more capable of self-government.

Episodes

  1. MAR 25

    Brian Hooks of Stand Together on Practicing Pluralism in Philanthropy

    Brian Hooks is Chairman and CEO of Stand Together and the President of the Charles Koch Foundation. He joins The Art of Association podcast to talk with host Daniel Stid about Stand Together’s efforts to advance pluralism and human flourishing through a vibrant, entrepreneurial civil society. They reflect on Brian’s long partnership with Charles Koch and a new edition of their co-authored book, Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World. The conversation also explores Be the People, a major new initiative that Stand Together is launching with a broad network of partners. Timed to launch during the nation’s 250th anniversary, Be the People will be a ten-year campaign. Its goal is to strengthen and highlight bottom-up civic renewal. Brian also discusses his cross-ideological collaboration with fellow philanthropists on what he calls “Team Liberalism” to defend pluralism and philanthropic freedom from illiberal critics on both the Left and the Right. Chapters(0:58): Stand Together’s vision, mission and methods for using philanthropy to empower people (3:53): How and why Brian came to work at Stand Together (9:03): Brian’s working relationship with Charles Koch and their principle based approach to management in civil society (13:28): Why Brian and Charles Koch wanted to bring out a new “America at 250” edition of Believe in People (21:20): Purpose and plans for the Be the People initiative and problem-solving platform (31:13): Brian’s spirited defense of philanthropic freedom and pluralism – and the growing threats to them from illiberalism on both the Left and Right (41:32): Whom Brian has learned from in his work Additional ResourcesStand Together’s overview of Principle Based Management Charles Koch and Brian Hooks, Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World, America’s 250th Anniversary Edition, with a new preface by the authors and a new foreword by Martin Luther King III Heather Templeton Dill, Kathleen Enright, Sam Gill, Brian Hooks, Darren Walker, and Elise Westhoff, “We Disagree on Many Things, but We Speak with One Voice in Support of Philanthropic Pluralism,” The Chronicle of Philanthropy, April 13, 2023 Brian Hooks, “In Defense of Philanthropic Freedom,” Stanford Social Innovation Review, June 17, 2025 Larry Kramer, “Listening to the People Who Think We Are Wrong,” Hewlett Foundation blog, January 10, 2019

    46 min

  2. FEB 24

    Charlie Brown on Supporting Civic Life in Rural and Small Town America

    Charlie Brown, Executive Director of the Trust for Civic Life, joins The Art of Association podcast to talk with host Daniel Stid about the Trust’s work. Three years into this initiative, the Trust is off to a great start in pooling funds from national philanthropic funders and in turn regranting them to support bottom up civic renewal efforts, with a special emphasis on rural and small town America. The Trust’s support for “civic hubs” in communities across the country in the form of flexible, multiyear grants makes a point of keeping the initiative with local leaders. These leaders and their organizations are uniquely positioned to use their local knowledge, networks, and accountability to determine priorities, expand participation, and help solve problems in their communities in ways that national funders cannot. The Trust holds that durable civic renewal grows through collaborative action, focusing on small practical wins while avoiding national controversies that have limited local salience. This approach holds great promise for improving our communities and ultimately, as progress accumulates, the civic life of the nation as a whole. Chapters(00:35): The Trust for Civic Life’s mission, origins, funders, and initial development (11:00): Why the Trust focuses on rural and small town America (15:20): How the Trust goes about its work (21:19): The aspirations and career path that brought Charlie to the Trust (23:47): The Trust’s work to navigate divisions and address shared priorities (26:30): What the Trust is learning from its work to date (32:00): How the Trust shares promising ideas and approaches across its network (34:49): How the Trust is fine-tuning its efforts (40:37): Charlie’s vision for the Trust’s impact over the long run (42:56): Who Charlie learns from Resources“Our Common Purpose: Reinventing American Democracy for the 21st Century” (American Academy of Arts and Sciences) Trust for Civic Life website Investing in America’s Civic Hubs (Trust for Civic Life’s 2025 Annual Report)

    45 min
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The Art of Association is a monthly podcast on big themes spanning philanthropy, civil society, and democracy in America – and the interplay between and among these areas. Following Tocqueville, the podcast presumes that the health of democracy depends far more than we realize on our ability to associate with each other in constructive ways. Doing this helps us solve problems we face together and, at the same time, become citizens more capable of self-government.

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