Wellness has become a $4 trillion global industry and somewhere between sleep, movement, and nutrition, it started selling us anxiety as often as it sells solutions. In our first-ever guest episode (and Season Two opener), Georgette and Valentina sit down with Ilaria Di Donato and Gloria Fuson of Relax Firenze to talk about what wellness actually means once you strip away the LED masks, the 4am influencer routines, and the supplement cabinets. We trace "mens sana in corpore sano" back to its real Latin meaning, talk about Mussolini's use of physical fitness as fascist propaganda, and land on the difference between performative wellness (the Instagram version) and intuitive wellness (actually listening to your body). Ilaria and Gloria bring 30+ combined years in the wellness and movement space in Florence — Ilaria on natural health, mindful counseling, and body-focused therapy; Gloria on women's health, menstrual cycle awareness, and movement. We get into perimenopause and the total lack of visible role models past 40 growing up, why medicine has historically been built around men's bodies, period shame (hidden pads, the water-not-blood in tampon ads, Valentina's first period story), and, because we can't do an episode in Italy without it, la bella figura and the very real, very present fat-shaming that hides under Italy's "healthier relationship with food" reputation. It's an honest, funny, occasionally emotional conversation about the difference between looking well and being well — and it ends, as always, with Cose a Caso. Episode highlightsThe real meaning of "mens sana in corpore sano" — and how Mussolini weaponized physical fitness for fascist propagandaWhy HYROX is a marketing format as much as a fitness one"Performative wellness" vs. "intuitive wellness" — Gloria's framing for the whole episodeIlaria on chronotypes, aging, and why she wakes at 4am (and why that's not a rule for anyone else)Perimenopause, menopause, and biohacking — why "resignation" isn't the only option for agingThe trad-wife wellness influencer trap and the Ballerina Farm problemMenstrual cycle syncing: what's useful, what's oversold, and why "the truth is always in the middle"Why medicine has historically been designed around a 24-hour male cycle, not a female onePeriod stigma: hidden pads, blue liquid in ads, Gloria's story about her husband's all-women UK teamWhat people actually come to Relax Firenze for vs. what they actually need (the C-section scar story)Fatphobia and la bella figura in Italy — "he's not doing a bella figura, he's doing a brutta figura"Cose a Caso: weightlifting vs. supplement culture, Barbie Pilates/Barbie yoga, Gwyneth Paltrow's cabinet vs. grandma's menu, Ilaria's 1990s "Slide" class, and what "feeling your best" actually looks like for each of them GuestsIlaria Di Donato is a wellness and natural health expert, founder of Relax Firenze — a holistic wellness center in the heart of Florence — and of ID Bio Cosmetics. She is a certified Professional Counselor, Supervisor and Trainer, holds a PhD in Psychological Counseling and Body-Focused Therapies, and a Master's in Mindfulness, Meditation and Neurosciences in Healthcare from the University of Florence. She developed the "Mindful Counseling" approach, blending meditation, bodywork, and Bach flower therapy — and has been teaching in the fitness and wellness industry since 1988. 🔗 relaxfirenze.com · ilariadidonato.it · @relaxfirenze Gloria Fuson is a movement and wellbeing specialist and co-founder of Relax Florence, with 17 years in the industry and a background in dance and clinical Pilates. Her work focuses on women's health — prenatal, postnatal, pelvic floor, endometriosis, and menopause — plus menstrual-cycle-synced coaching and mindful movement, through 1:1 sessions, in-person classes in Florence, and workshops on women's health and wellbeing. 🔗 @thesoulbodymovement · Substack · thesoulbodymovement.carrd.co
