Bringing Community Back Together

Heart and Soul Story

What if an important part of the answer to our community mental health challenges doesn’t lie within us… but between us? Bringing Community Back Together, hosted by Samantha Heron, explores the growing impact of social fragmentation - from rising anxiety in young people to loneliness in older adults - and how connection across generations can be an important part of the answer. Through real conversations fortnightly with educators, aged care leaders, and community voices, this podcast highlights the role we all play in building meaningful engagement, belonging and stronger communities.

Episodes

  1. Sep 10

    Dementia Care Social Club: Where hard topics get soft landings

    Bringing Community Back Together | S2E3 | Dr Katya Numbers & Monique Pockran |Co founders Dementia Care Social Club "I haven’t had to be myself for the past two years, I didn’t know that before I came here" .Dementia Care Social Club attendee What if dementia care wasn’t only about services, appointments and managing a diagnosis, butabout how we continue to include people in our families, friendships, neighbourhoods and communities? In this episode, Samantha Heron sits down with Dr Katya Numbers, researcher and educator at UNSW’s Centre for Healthy Brain Ageing (CHeBA), and Monique Pockran, dementia doula and founder of Dahlia Dementia Guidance & Support. All 3 work in some capacity with people living with Dementia, and it has also touched all of their personal lives. Together, Katya and Monique are the co-founders of the Dementia Social Club  a growing community bringing people living with dementia, carers, families, researchers, professionals and interested community members together to learn, connect and feel less alone. It is a place where, as they beautifully describe it, hard topics get soft landings. This conversation explores dementia well beyond a diagnosis: Katya shares how her professional workin  memory and ageing became deeplypersonal when her own father began showing signs of dementia,  and why those signs don’t always look like thememory loss we typically associate with the condition.Monique reflects on her father’s journeywith Alzheimer’s disease and how her experiences as both a daughter and dementia professional shaped her determination to help families navigate whatcomes after diagnosis.We exploreyounger onset dementia and why changes in behaviour, personality, spatialawareness or processing can sometimes be missed — particularly when dementiasimply isn’t on the radar.We unpack the difference between dementia and Alzheimer’s disease and why understanding themany different forms of dementia matters.We talk openly about the enormous gap that can exist after diagnosis: a family’s world has just changed, yet they may be sent home with information, referralsand a follow-up appointment months away, left trying to work out what comesnext.And then we talk about connection. A visitor described returning month after month because the community made her feel “seen and heard and full.” This is perhaps where the Dementia Care Social Club offers us a glimpse of something much bigger. Around the same table might be someone living with dementia, a daughter caring for a parent, a former carer, a researcher, a clinician or someone who simply wants to understand more, and you may have no idea who is who. Because, as Katyasays, “everybody in that room is the expert in a sense.” Their vision is for Dementia Care Social Clubs to grow beyond a single venue or two people hosting events into communities across Australia where people have the confidence andknowledge to talk openly about dementia and continue including people living with dementia in ordinary community life. This conversation feels very much at the heart of Bringing Community Back Together. Learn more about Katya, Monique and the Dementia Care Social Club: Dementia Care Social Club Dahlia DementiaGuidance & Support (Monique ) Katya Numbers UNSW Brain & Dementia information, support and free learning resources: UNSW Centre forHealthy Brain Ageing (CHeBA) — resourceshttps://www.unsw.edu.au/cheba/about-us/resources Dementia Australiahttps://www.dementia.org.au/ Wicking DementiaResearch and Education Centre, University of Tasmania — free online dementia courses including Understanding Dementiahttps://www.utas.edu.au/wicking/study Connection Movements https://aiip.net.au/ https://goodflock.org/ Connect with host Samantha Heron

    Dementia Care Social Club: Where hard topics get soft landings
  2. Aug 24

    Goodwill Starts. Systems Sustain | Dr Hannah Forbes

    Bringing Community Back Together | Season 2 Episode 2 Dr Hannah Forbes | Goodwill Starts . Systems Sustains "A program is fantastic, but it's only sustainable through the goodwill of the person running the program and the supports around it. When those supports falter, the good work of that program may be lost." What if the problem isn't that we need more evidence about the benefits of intergenerational connection ….but that we've designed communities that make those connections increasingly difficult to sustain? In this episode of Bringing Community Back Together,Samantha Heron sits down with Dr Hannah Forbes,  Occupational Therapist, researcher and lecturer at Australian Catholic University, whose PhD through the GrandSchools project explored intergenerational living and learning, and the systems ands paces that allow connection between generations to flourish. But Hannah's interest in this work began long before academia. Growing up with two much-loved grandmothers who shaped herlife in very different ways, and later sharing her home with her grandmotherEstelle during her teenage and university years , Hannah experienced first hand what it means to live alongside the wisdom of another generation. In this conversation, Hannah shares: • What the evidence actually tells us about intergenerational programs — and why the question is increasingly not whether they work, but how we make their impact sustainable. • Why goodwill isn't enough. The passionate facilitators holding many intergenerational programs together are often the "unsung heroes" — but what happens when that person leaves, funding disappears or organisational priorities change? • The young person whose words stayed with Hannah: a 17-year-old who described how spending time with older people gave her something extraordinarily powerful — hope. • Why we've unintentionally designed generations apart. Schools here. Aged care over there. Childcare somewhere else. Hannah asks what might become possible if we intentionally designed shared spaces for generations to live, learn and contribute alongside one another. • The tension between protection and connection. Safeguards matter, but have layers of regulation and red tape also made ordinary intergenerational relationships increasingly difficult? • The GrandSchools vision: what if senior living, schools, early childhood, gardens, arts and community spaces were designed together ...creating opportunities for connection as part of everyday life rather than something requiring a special "program"? • Why older and younger people both underestimate what they have to offer each other, and the extraordinary reciprocity that emerges when the conditions for genuine relationships are created. And Hannah brings it back to something beautifully simple: Connection is the key. Whether it's an older person finding purpose, a teenager discovering hope, or Hannah herself being dragged nervously along to choir by her best friend Bella, we sometimes need another person to create a doorway into belonging. This conversation leaves us with a bigger challenge. We have the evidence. So how do we now design our schools, aged care homes, neighbourhoods, policies and communities to make intergenerational connection part of everyday life? 🎧 Listen now, and if you enjoy the conversation, please follow Bringing Community Back Together — it's free and helps more of these conversations find the people who need them.

    Goodwill Starts. Systems Sustain | Dr Hannah Forbes
  3. Aug 5

    Rethinking our Rites of Passage, Dr Arne Rubinstein

    Bringing Community Back Together |Season 2 Episode 1 | Dr Arne Rubinstein | Rites of Passage Institute "The question is not whether they'll go through a rite of passage, because they will. The question is, can we create something healthy for them, rather than having them create their own, which can be disastrous.....The transformation of a rite of passage is a change in our beliefs and values about ourselves and the world." Welcome to Season 2 . To kick off our next conversations about community, connection and our collective wellbeing, Samantha Heron sits down with Dr Arne Rubinstein OAM — GP turned emergency medicine doctor turned rites of passage pioneer. In this episode, Arne shares: Journey from an ER doctor to a ROP Leader in the hills of Mullumbimby What he saw in his emergency medicine years that convinced him teenagers were creating their own — often dangerous — rites of passage in the absence of community guided and supported onesA wellbeing graph that changed his career direction: life satisfaction peaking at 12, plunging between 14 and 18, and not recovering until around 70, he needed to know why...A framework for the shift from child psychology to healthy adult psychology — "I'm not the centre of the universe, I'm part of the universe"Why he believes Western culture has lost its respect for elders: "We worship youth, and many are stuck in an adolescent way of thinking"The concept of liminal space, and a disarmingly honest story about a single sentence from a childhood choir teacher that still shapes him today Arne's book The Making of Men first reframed how Samantha understood adolescence and community. This conversation feels like a natural way to open Season 2. Where Season 1 asked of us to rethink how we live ( Savannah Fishel) , how we measure progress ( Catia Davim), and how we rebuild community from the ground up (Mel Knuckey), how we become Humans for the long Haul ( Jon Owen) and more, Arne's work grounds those same questions in one of life's most universal, and most neglected, transitions. 🎧 Listen now, and if you enjoy it, please subscribe/follow along — it's free, and it helps more of these conversations reach more people. To learn more about Arne & His teams work, including programs for schools, families and workplaces, visit ritesofpassageinstitute.org To receive your free copy ARNE's PARENTING TIPS, visit here To see a number of other tips, resources and stories of Rites of Passage work visit ritesofpassageinstitute.org/resources/  Connect with host Samantha Heron: heartandsoulstory.com/podcast Join Community Connection Movements:GoodFlock.orgThe Australian Institute for Intergenerational Practice A big thank you to Good Flock for their commitment to community connection, changing the culture of how we view ageing and their support in bringing this episode to you.

    Rethinking our Rites of Passage, Dr Arne Rubinstein
  4. Jun 30

    Humans for the long haul. Jon Owen, Wayside Chapel

    Bringing Community Back Together | Episode  8  | Jon Owen  | Wayside Chapel "At Wayside Chapel ... when people realise that they're in a place where they're being held, they often start to move forward on their own two feet and with their own energy and momentum, which is a beautiful gift we can give ...because we don't need to be experts... we just need to be humans who can who can be there for the long haul... Join us as we explore the profound insights of Reverend John Owen from Wayside Chapel, delving into community, mental health, and the power of story sharing to foster connection and healing. In this episode, Samantha Heron sits down with Reverend Jon Owen, Pastor and CEO of Wayside Chapel in Sydney's Kings Cross & Bondi , for a deeply moving conversation about what it really means to build community with "no us and them." Jon shares the philosophy at the heart of Wayside's Love over Hate work * that no person is a problem to be solved, but a person to be met * he reflects on the roots of community fragmentation, the stories we tell ourselves, and why connection across generations and difference matters now more than ever. * he shares powerful, personal stories of transformation, such as a volunteer whose son died while sleeping rough. She told him: "This isn't the end of my mother's heart. This isn't the end of my mother's story. I have so much love still to give. So everyone who walks through those doors, I treat as if he were my boy." ... grief transformed into purpose rather than ending * He closes with a beautiful piece of wisdom: "we just need to be humans who can be there for the long haul." and what keeps him believing in the possibility of no us and them is the daily examples he sees of humanity and who we can be at our best... and the poem by Wendell Berry "The Peace of Wild Things" A conversation about love over hate, the courage to stay present with people in pain, and what it takes to truly walk alongside someone. This conversation feels like a natural continuation of where Bringing Community Back Together has been heading all year... from rethinking how we live, to rethinking how we measure progress, to rebuilding community from the ground up. Jon's work at Wayside Chapel takes those ideas and grounds them in the rawest, most human terms: what does it actually look like to remove the labels, sit beside someone in their pain, and choose connection over judgement? It's perhaps the clearest distillation yet of what this whole series has been emphasising ...that community isn't a concept, it's a daily practice of showing up for each other. 🎧 Listen now and if you enjoy pls subscribe/ follow along as it helps more of these stories reach more people To learn more, become a volunteer or support Wayside Chapel's work, visit waysidechapel.org.auSubscribe to Jon's weekly Inner Circle email for stories from the Wayside Connect with host Samantha Heron: ⁠heartandsoulstory.com Join Community Connection Movements: GoodFlock.org The Australian Institute for Intergenerational Practice

    Humans for the long haul. Jon Owen, Wayside Chapel
  5. Jun 17

    Lifelong Truckie turns School of Life Teacher

    Bringing Community Back Together |Episode 7 | Ken T "You've given me so much more than youprobably realise." Luca, Year 10 “You might run into good times. You might run into bad ones. But that's life. You take the good with the bad” Ken T What happens when a 15-year-old sits downwith a man who drove trucks across Australia for 37 years, and they just...talk? Ken Taylor has lived a life full of stories.From digging foundations as a builder's labourer at 19, to hauling grain from Queensland to Victoria, mangoes to market, and steel to building sites.Ken spent decades on the open road with Glenn Campbell on the radio, a CB relay for company, and enough wisdom quietly accumulated to stop a room. At 78, Ken lives in aged care. And every week, when the students from the high school 10 minutes down the road walk through the door, he lights up. In this week's conversation of Bringing Community Back Together, Samantha Heron sits with Ken in his room and reads him the tribute card his young buddy Luca wrote at the end of their months chatting together. What unfolds is a gentle, funny, and genuinely moving portrait of a man who never set out to be a mentor …and became one anyway. We talk about what 37 years on the road actually teaches you. About measuring twice and cutting once. About tying yourload down properly and what happens when you don't. About surrendering your driver's licence due to ill health, and what it means to lose the thing that defined you for most of your life. And about why, when the students arrive, Kenis always happy to wake up. Some things Ken would like young people toknow: *Study hard *Listen to your parents *Learn as much as you possibly can … because younever know what's ahead. “You might run into good times. You might run into bad ones. But that's life. You take the good with the bad” That's Ken. 78 years old. Happy go lucky.And now as much a life lesson teacher as a truckie Subscribe and follow Bringing Community Back Together on Spotify / Apple so you never miss a conversation. To learn more head to heartandsoulstory.com For a map of Intergenerational programs across the country go to the AIIP website Listen to one of Ken & Sam’s fave’s -  Glen Campbell’s  TryA Little Kindness

    Lifelong Truckie turns School of Life Teacher
  6. Jun 4

    Rethinking the way we measure progress

    Bringing Community Back Together | Episode 6 Catia Davim "Human life is worth it until the very last breath. You could be 102 years old and you are still very valuable." In this episode we explore Bhutan's Gross National Happiness & Indigenous wisdom and how they relate to community, plus much more! The secret to making a real impact isn’t always about doing more - it can be about starting small and building community that lasts. Catia Davim’s journey leading Australia’s Social Good Summit for the past decade reveals how one person’s purpose, can ripple outward to create meaningful change. Catia’s personal quest for social impact was sparked by asimple question: What can I do for the world? She shares how attending theUN-affiliated Social Good Summit in New York ignited her mission to spotlight good projects and inspire collective action in Australia. We break down: * The power of community-led initiatives andhow shared purpose sustains long-term impact * The Indigenous Wisdom Summit  that emphasises interconnectedness with land, family, and community - Indigenous principles from the 2025 Indigenous Wisdom Summit from amazing leaders such as Benson Saulo, Professor Yalmay Marika-Yunupiŋu. Professor Anne Poelina and more, that can reframe our approach to social progress * Lessons from Bhutan’s national happiness index and why collective well-being trumps GDP in creating a thriving society *How cultivating neighbourhood relationships and valuing older generations is vital for social cohesion and mental health * The importance of incorporating indigenous and local voices into leadership and decision-making, both in Australia and globally Why does it matter? Because communities fractured by individualism and neglecting ancestral wisdom risk deepening crises like loneliness, inequality, and environmental degradation. Our opportunity lies in reconnecting … through stories, values, and purpose-driven action, to build a more inclusive, resilient society. Catia’s experience highlights that change doesn’t have to start with grand gestures; it begins with listening, sharing, and small acts of courage. Whether you’re a social impact leader, community builder, or someone longing for deeper connection, this episode offers powerful insights on how disciplined nonconformity and hope can create ripples that reach far beyond the individual. Pls take a listen to see what happens when purpose meets community - an inspiring call to action for everyone ready to make a difference, starting with one small ripple at a time. This episode is hosted by Heart & Soul Story and supported by Good Flock. We gratefully acknowledge their support and commitment to exploring the cultural shift needed to reimagine how we live, age and belong ... together. Join the movement encouraging a cultural shift in ageing:⁠⁠ Good Flock Connect with Catia Davim : Social Good Summit / Simplify.co Connect with Samantha Heron: heartandsoulstory.com

    Rethinking the way we measure progress
  7. May 25

    Rethinking the way we school

    Bringing Community Back Together | Episode 5 Dr Hugh Chilton "Education of the Mind without Education of the Heart is no education at all" Aristotle What does it actually mean to educate a human being? Not just fill them with knowledge or prepare them for a career, but genuinely form them as a person, capable of connection, empathy, and belonging across difference? Dr Hugh Chilton has spent his career inside that question. From twelve years on the executive leadership team at Scots College Sydney , where he co-designed ScotsX, an experimental model of schooling built around real-world learning and sustained intergenerational relationships to his current role as Head of Teaching and Learning at Wycliffe Christian School in the Blue Mountains, Hugh has been quietly building an answer. He's also co-founder of the Sydney Character Initiative at the University of Sydney, working alongside Professor Phil Cummins to put character formation back at the centre of what schools are for. In this conversation, we talk about what happens when you let teenagers spend real time with older people.. fortnightly, for a whole year , and why some of the boys who struggled most in a conventional classroom were the ones who shone brightest in an aged care home. We talk about the difference between adding community connection to a school program and actually designing it in. And we talk about vocation, what it means to choose work that is more than a career. Some take aways from this conversation: * Character is the whole work of school - not a strand, not an add-on, not a value on a wall. The question is whether we're intentional. *Sustained relationship change lives - the magic in ScotsX's intergenerational program wasn't the visits. It was the same students, the same residents, every fortnight, for a whole year. The awkwardness of the first few weeks became the foundation for something real. *Students who struggle in traditional settings can shine brightley - when given a real human to connect with rather than a curriculum to perform for. The boy who bought a toy horse for a woman he'd come to genuinely care about. Real settings reveal real character. * We've normalised things that aren't normal — hypermobility, digital connection as a substitute for physical presence, age-segregated living and learning, the very idea of "the teenager" as a separate category. Hugh's historian lens reminds us: these are recent inventions. Which means they can change. *Small is not a compromise - it's a design choice — Hugh left one Scott's College to ride his bike to work at a smaller school in his own community. Not as a step back, but as a step toward something different. Proximity, presence, and knowing your students across their lives and within his own community. Drop a comment — who was your Miss Oxley? Hugh and Sam both shared names of teacher who changed something for them. We want to hear yours. Who was the teacher you still remember ... and what did they give you that no curriculum could? This Episode of Bringing Community Back Together is supported by Good Flock, committed to culturally shifting how Australia thinks about connection ageing. Find out more at GoodFlock.org So we can keep bringing these podcast episodes to you, make sure you subscribe and follow on Spotify / Apple To learn more about Bringing Community Back Together head to heartandsoulstory.com

    Rethinking the way we school
  8. May 11

    Connection is everything

    Brining Community Back Together | Episode 4 | Luella Prassad Many of us underestimate how simple acts of genuine human connection can transform lives, especially across generations. On Bringing Community Back Together this week, Luella Prasad, a Year 12 student from International Grammar School Sydney, shares * her love of connecting with people* appreciating friendships no matter what age* a special bond with her own grandfather through a love of piano and ABBA* a mutual love with her aged care buddy Louise of all things cats 🐱& ABBA 🎶 (even her pet dog Fernando !)* hopes to be a Speech Pathologist and help improve people's quality of life ....and more This episode reminds us that friendship & connection transcend age. Luella’s heartfelt sharing uncovers the profound impact reaching out beyond our comfort zones can yield, highlighting the importance of simply being present and open to others. Luella reminds us that lifelong friendships are born in moments of vulnerability, laughter, and shared stories. Perfect for young people, educators, or anyone tired of surface-level interactions, because at the end of the day, we believe, human connection is what truly makes life richer. This episode is essential listening for anyone craving authentic relationships in our fast paced, digital world… especially if you believe connection is the heart of community. It is a reminder that taking the time for human connection isn’t complicated …it’s everything. For more information on Bringing Community Back Together visit heartandsoulstory.com To learn more about intergenerational programs like STEP Seniors & Teens Empathy Program Australian Institute Intergenerational Practice To join others embracing a culture shift in the way we approach ageing in Australia Good Flock Movement

    Connection is everything
  9. Apr 21

    Rebuilding Community from the Ground Up

    What does it really take to bring community back together? Sometimes it starts with a pair of boots on the ground Mel Knuckey has spent her career doing the quiet, essential work of community connection - from her early days as a shy 18-year-old joining Rotaract on the Central Coast, to running 16 intergenerational programs across Tasmania in under a year as Community Programs Coordinator at COTA Tasmania. In this conversation, Mel reflects on finding her purpose, the moment something "just clicked" working in community development, and why she believes real change happens on the ground We talk about: *The Generations Connect Tech Together program, connecting young people with older residents in residential aged care homes across southern Tasmania through digital literacy and genuine friendship *Student Sophie, who came in wanting to work in childcare and left with a traineeship in aged care, one of many young people now considering careers they'd never imagined *The very real aged care workforce crisis, and why intergenerational programs might be part of the solution *What it means to embed these programs into school curriculum at Years 9 and 10 (and the funding reality that sits behind that vision) *The AIIP (Australian Institute of Intergenerational Practice) and the growing movement of practitioners across Australia and New Zealand working toward systems change *And the boots. The beautiful, bold, mandala-printed boots that have sparked more genuine conversations in aged care homes than any icebreaker activity ever could. "Working in community was where I felt really alive and found my purpose in life." — Mel Knuckey If you have an old tablet or smartphone you no longer use, or new ones you would like to donate COTA Tasmania would love to hear from you. Reach out via the Heart & Soul Story socials and we'll connect you with the right people. A huge thank you to Hazel Brothers , Tasmanian family-owned builders, for donating 25 tablets to the program. That's community in action. Bringing Community Back Together is hosted by Samantha Heron, founder of Heart & Soul Story New episodes dropping regularly .... subscribe so you don't miss one. Pls comment, like and share to help Bring Community Back Together Connect with Mel:COTA Tasmania — cotatas.org.au Connect with Sam:heartandsoulstory.com Join the movement to transform how we feel about ageing: https://goodflock.org/get-involved/

    Rebuilding Community from the Ground Up

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What if an important part of the answer to our community mental health challenges doesn’t lie within us… but between us? Bringing Community Back Together, hosted by Samantha Heron, explores the growing impact of social fragmentation - from rising anxiety in young people to loneliness in older adults - and how connection across generations can be an important part of the answer. Through real conversations fortnightly with educators, aged care leaders, and community voices, this podcast highlights the role we all play in building meaningful engagement, belonging and stronger communities.