Undone

Undone Podcast

What does it actually take to find faith? What does it take to keep it? Not the polished version. Not the version that skips the doubt and the resistance and the seasons where everything felt distant or hollow. The real version - with all the texture and struggle and unexpected grace that most people never talk about out loud. That's what UNDONE is all about. Each episode, a pastor and a curious skeptic sit across from someone willing to share their story honestly. Not a triumphant highlight reel, but the whole journey - who they were before faith entered the picture, what first cracked the door open, what it felt like to walk through it, and what it takes to keep renewing that decision in the middle of an ordinary, complicated life. Because salvation isn't just a moment. It's a journey that begins in a moment and continues every single day after it. And the people who understand that best are the ones willing to talk about both - the arrival and the ongoing road. The show is hosted by two people who, on the surface, appear to see the world differently. One is a pastor who has walked this road for years and still finds new terrain on it. The other is a skeptic - genuinely, not performatively - who is somewhere in the middle of their own search and hasn't resolved it yet. Their dynamic isn't a device. It's the most honest thing about the show. Because for every listener who already believes, there are many more who are still watching, still weighing, still trying to figure out if any of this is worth the leap. UNDONE is for all of them. The name comes from Isaiah 6:5. The prophet encounters God and his immediate, involuntary response is: "Woe is me, for I am undone." Not a quiet, dignified surrender - undone. Unraveled by the encounter. And then restored by it. That word captures something true about what it means to find faith - not that it destroys you, but that it gets to the places in you that nothing else can reach. It undoes the version of you that didn't know what you know now. Every guest on this show has experienced some version of that. They arrived at faith by different roads, at different speeds, carrying different questions. Some came early. Some came late. Some are still on the way. But all of them have something worth hearing - for the person who believes, for the person who isn't sure, and for everyone in between. Whatever road you're on, there's a seat for you here.

  1. Oct 3

    Aaron Darling: A Faith That Finally Felt Real - Part 2

    Aaron's story continues in Part 2 with one of the most difficult seasons of his life. After years of disappointment, uncertainty, and growing cynicism toward the church, Aaron found himself questioning where God was in the middle of everything he had experienced. Then, in 2018, his younger brother died by suicide. The loss brought his questions about God, faith, suffering, and family to the surface in ways he could no longer ignore. Aaron shares honestly about grief, anger, doubt, and what it was like to continue leading a family and participating in church while feeling spiritually empty. He also tells the story of how his involvement with Infusco Coffee grew from a temporary opportunity into something much bigger, becoming both a business and a place of community. But perhaps the most significant part of Aaron's story is what happened beneath the surface. Through the people God placed in his life, difficult experiences, honest conversations, and years of wrestling with his questions, Aaron began to move away from a faith based on expectations and appearances toward something more personal and authentic. Today, Aaron describes his relationship with God differently. He doesn't claim to have everything figured out. Instead, he talks about learning to let go of cynicism, stop comparing his faith to someone else's, and recognize that God can use both the good experiences and the painful ones to shape us. Part 2 is ultimately a story about grief, doubt, authenticity, and what it can look like to find your way back to God. If you’re enjoying Undone, we’d love to hear from you! Leave us a message and let us know what you think.

    Aaron Darling: A Faith That Finally Felt Real - Part 2
  2. Sep 26

    Aaron Darling: A Faith That Finally Felt Real - Part 1

    Aaron grew up as a pastor's kid, surrounded by church, Christian education, and the expectations that came with being part of a pastor's family. From the outside, he knew how to play the part. On the inside, however, he struggled to reconcile the faith he had been taught with what he was actually experiencing. In Part 1 of Aaron's story, he talks openly about growing up in a large family, the pressures and challenges of being a pastor's kid, difficult experiences within the church, and the ways he learned to cope by staying busy and keeping his distance. He shares how a summer mission experience and a few authentic relationships began to change the way he understood his relationship with God. Aaron's story also takes us through college, marriage, fatherhood, and a series of career changes. From corporate America to the craft beer industry, he repeatedly pursued what he thought might be the next thing, only to find that God seemed to be leading him somewhere else. Along the way, Aaron wrestles with a growing cynicism toward both work and the church. Eventually, the things he had worked so hard to build begin to fall apart, leaving him in a difficult and deeply uncertain season of faith. This is the first half of Aaron's story. Next week, we continue with the loss that changed him deeply, the story behind Infusco Coffee, and the process of finding his way back to an authentic faith. If you’re enjoying Undone, we’d love to hear from you! Leave us a message and let us know what you think.

    Aaron Darling: A Faith That Finally Felt Real - Part 1
  3. Sep 19

    Lou Hoekstra: Learning to Let Go and Let God

    Lou grew up in a Christian home where faith was simply part of everyday life. But as he built a career, launched technology companies, and eventually stepped into decades of ministry in Haiti, he repeatedly found himself in situations far beyond his ability to control. In this conversation, Lou shares the story of leaving a secure family business to pursue an unproven vision for using computers to transform the HVAC industry, the fear and uncertainty that followed, and the unexpected ways God provided when he finally admitted, "I can't do this." He also recounts a harrowing trip to Haiti to help rescue his friend and pastor, Jean Claude, after he was kidnapped and imprisoned by corrupt police. But Lou's story ultimately goes beyond business and adventure. After years of trying to make a difference in Haiti, he began wrestling with a deeper question: What does Scripture actually call us to do about poverty, success, and the people around us? Those experiences forced him to reconsider his Western ideas about fixing problems, measuring success, and even his own identity. Lou reflects on faith, entrepreneurship, leadership, humility, and the temptation to believe the praise and success that come our way. His story is a reminder that faithfulness is not the same thing as controlling the outcome, and that the things we accomplish may not be what matter most in the end. As Lou puts it, God had to remind him again and again: You can't do this. You are over your skis. Just do what I ask you to do and let the results be mine. By the end of the conversation, Lou's definition of legacy is remarkably simple: to have been a devoted husband and a loving father and grandfather. If you’re enjoying Undone, we’d love to hear from you! Leave us a message and let us know what you think.

    Lou Hoekstra: Learning to Let Go and Let God
  4. Sep 12

    Ronny Silva: When Life Closes Doors, God Opens Others

    Raised by a single father in Peru during a period of terrorism, economic hardship, and uncertainty, Ronnie experienced difficult circumstances from a young age. Yet even as a teenager who was drinking, fighting, and surrounded by friends involved with drugs, he can now look back and see God's hand preserving him. One unforgettable moment, when he and his brother were waiting for their father to earn enough money for food, left a lasting impression of God's provision: two warm rotisserie chickens mysteriously appeared beside them at a bus stop. After moving to the United States, Ronnie unexpectedly found himself recruited to play college football, eventually becoming a starter and receiving opportunities that could have led to a professional career. But a devastating boating accident just before his senior season ended his football career and changed the direction of his life. Through the accident, his recovery, and the care of his wife and family, Ronnie came to see Christ in a deeper and more personal way. What followed were more unexpected turns. Doors repeatedly closed on his plans to become a police officer, eventually leading Ronnie and his family to eight years of missionary work in Peru. Years later, after returning to the United States, another door opened, and Ronnie finally entered law enforcement. Today, he serves as a school resource officer, where his previous experiences working with children, serving in Peru, and walking through hardship have all become part of how he serves others. Throughout the conversation, Ronnie reflects on suffering, evangelism, hospitality, family, doubt, depression, and the importance of trusting God when we cannot understand what He is doing. His testimony is ultimately a reminder that the difficult and unexpected moments of our lives are not necessarily wasted. As Ronnie puts it, “God does not do things by chance.” Even when we cannot see what God is doing, He is faithful to use our circumstances, our suffering, our disappointments, and even our closed doors for His purposes. This is a conversation about providence, perseverance, and the evidence of God's grace woven throughout an ordinary, imperfect life. If you’re enjoying Undone, we’d love to hear from you! Leave us a message and let us know what you think.

    Ronny Silva: When Life Closes Doors, God Opens Others
  5. Sep 5

    Tom Jacobs: A Story of Second Chances and The Double Life He Couldn't Hide

    Tom grew up in a deeply religious Catholic family and eventually entered the Jesuit path with hopes of becoming a priest. But beneath the appearance of having his life together, Tom was carrying wounds from his childhood, struggling with his identity, and learning to navigate relationships, faith, and a growing desire to help others through counseling. His journey would take him through a marriage that ended painfully, divorce, family struggles, and a season of questioning where God was leading him. Along the way, he experienced a profound personal encounter with the assurance of salvation and eventually sensed God's call to become a Christian counselor. Years later, after finding healing, remarrying, and becoming part of a Christian community, Tom faced another profound challenge: the loss of his infant daughter, and later, a diagnosis of Parkinson's disease. Rather than finding easy answers to the question of "Why?", Tom learned to trust God in the midst of circumstances he could not explain. In our conversation, Tom talks openly about the masks we wear, the ways pain can shape our lives, the importance of Christian community, and what it means to continue trusting God when life doesn't make sense. Ultimately, Tom's story is one of grace, healing, perseverance, and second chances, and a reminder that God can continue to work through our lives even after we have failed, been wounded, or found ourselves facing circumstances we never expected. If you’re enjoying Undone, we’d love to hear from you! Leave us a message and let us know what you think.

    Tom Jacobs: A Story of Second Chances and The Double Life He Couldn't Hide

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What does it actually take to find faith? What does it take to keep it? Not the polished version. Not the version that skips the doubt and the resistance and the seasons where everything felt distant or hollow. The real version - with all the texture and struggle and unexpected grace that most people never talk about out loud. That's what UNDONE is all about. Each episode, a pastor and a curious skeptic sit across from someone willing to share their story honestly. Not a triumphant highlight reel, but the whole journey - who they were before faith entered the picture, what first cracked the door open, what it felt like to walk through it, and what it takes to keep renewing that decision in the middle of an ordinary, complicated life. Because salvation isn't just a moment. It's a journey that begins in a moment and continues every single day after it. And the people who understand that best are the ones willing to talk about both - the arrival and the ongoing road. The show is hosted by two people who, on the surface, appear to see the world differently. One is a pastor who has walked this road for years and still finds new terrain on it. The other is a skeptic - genuinely, not performatively - who is somewhere in the middle of their own search and hasn't resolved it yet. Their dynamic isn't a device. It's the most honest thing about the show. Because for every listener who already believes, there are many more who are still watching, still weighing, still trying to figure out if any of this is worth the leap. UNDONE is for all of them. The name comes from Isaiah 6:5. The prophet encounters God and his immediate, involuntary response is: "Woe is me, for I am undone." Not a quiet, dignified surrender - undone. Unraveled by the encounter. And then restored by it. That word captures something true about what it means to find faith - not that it destroys you, but that it gets to the places in you that nothing else can reach. It undoes the version of you that didn't know what you know now. Every guest on this show has experienced some version of that. They arrived at faith by different roads, at different speeds, carrying different questions. Some came early. Some came late. Some are still on the way. But all of them have something worth hearing - for the person who believes, for the person who isn't sure, and for everyone in between. Whatever road you're on, there's a seat for you here.

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