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Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.

IndoctriNation Rachel Bernstein

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.7 • 305 Ratings

Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.

    Escaping Xenos w/Emma Buchbinder

    Escaping Xenos w/Emma Buchbinder

    Emma Buchbinder was raised in the high-control religious group Xenos Christian Fellowship, based in Columbus, Ohio. In 2020, Xenos changed its name to Dwell Community Church following years of negative press, and accusations of abuse and cult activity. Emma entered into leadership roles at Xenos/Dwell at age 16 and simultaneously moved into one of the communal-style housing arrangements called a “ministry house”, in which she remained for 10 years until she left. Emma both experienced and implemented various forms of behavioral, emotional, and spiritual abuse. Since leaving Xenos/Dwell at the end of 2020, Emma has experienced immense difficulty transitioning into the real world for the first time as she learns to navigate the complexities of developing healthy friendships, setting boundaries, listening to her intuition, and valuing rest. She is also still navigating how to interact with loved ones still involved in Xenos/Dwell. Emma hopes that her story will give others the courage to share their own experiences and create awareness that these forms of abuse can and do happen to your friends, family, coworkers, and neighbors.

    Emma joins Rachel to share the emotional turmoil she experienced throughout her life as a member of Xenos Christian Fellowship, and explains the fear and isolation of leaving behind the family and support systems she had known her whole life. Throughout the conversation, Rachel offers insights from her experience in working with people leaving high control religious organizations providing context for the confusing feelings and difficult decisions Emma reckoned with as she left the controversial and damaging group behind.

    Before You Go: Rachel points out how high control groups often test the faith of their followers by pushing them to do things that go against their own conscience and explains the feelings of moral superiority that often accompany insular religious groups.

    Follow the links below for more info on Xenos and support for ex-members:

    https://www.dwellchurchcolumbusisacult.com/

    www.xenosisacult.com

    https://leavingdwell.com

    Xenos/Dwell Survivors Support Group:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/343161603178121

    You can sign up for Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here:

    rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html

    Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters:

    Kim, Janet Imp, Tori Parham, Matthew Krueger, Jennifer Loidolt, Tamsin McDonnell, Ann Gentry, Latechia Hogue, Alishia L'Heureux, MR J G GARDEN, Elaine L Garcelon, Amanda Davis, Arianna, Eliza, Jill Epps, Kim Tilley, Stefanie Schroeder, Shauna, Patricia Glica, Jill Carnay, Simrat Khalsa,and, Heidi Meyer!

    To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

    www.patreon.com/indoctrination

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    www.paypal.me/indoctrination

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    • 1 hr 18 min
    From TTI to LMFT w/Julianne Bull

    From TTI to LMFT w/Julianne Bull

    Julianne Bull is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist living in Los Angeles. She holds a masters degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Southern California and has been a practicing therapist for about seven years. She currently utilizes DBT work with adolescents, as well as being a Certified Animal Assisted Therapy Professional. At age 14, Julianne was sent away for a year to two Troubled Teen Industry programs, the experiences which inspired her to become a therapist for teens and use her work to fight against this damaging and dangerous industry

    Julianne joins Rachel to discuss her harrowing experience as a teenager at two different teen treatment facilities where she suffered neglect and abuse that caused her trauma for many years to come. Julianne explains to Rachel how finally seeing a legitimate therapist inspired her to pursue the profession herself, pointing out how her time in grips of the troubled teen industry informs the way she works with teens in her own practice.

    Before You Go: Rachel reflects on how what Julianne described as her "stubbornness" was actually a strength that ultimately helped her survive and offers advice to parents struggling with difficult teens.

    Find more about Julianne's practice here:

    https://www.juliannebull.com/

    You can sign up for Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here:

    https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html

    Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters:
    Jamie Gunning, Brett Jellen, Gabrielle Coleman, Danielle Hirokane, Jena Higdon, Rebecca Sigel, Cecilia, The New Inquiry, Kymberley Alberts Sauer, Kristen King, Elizabeth Wolfington, Ryan Pence, Amanda Smith, Julia Colmenero-Skeaff, Niamh McGee, Jo A Gardner and, Amber Berger

    To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

    www.patreon.com/indoctrination

    Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

    www.paypal.me/indoctrination

    You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

    • 1 hr 14 min
    BONUS PREVIEW: Evolutionary Biology and Cult Dynamics w/Jeremy Sherman Ph.D.

    BONUS PREVIEW: Evolutionary Biology and Cult Dynamics w/Jeremy Sherman Ph.D.

    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at:
    www.patreon.com/indoctrination

    Jeremy Sherman is a Ph.D. in evolutionary epistemology. He describes himself as a cradle-to-grave science researcher studying the unbroken chain, from the origins of life to humankind's grave situation today. He has written over 1,000 articles for Psychology Today’s 9 million readers on everyday practicalities. Jeremy also lived for 7 years in an eco-village commune in Tennessee known as “The Farm”, where its 1400 residents elected him to a leadership role at just 24 years old. For the past 25 years, he has been a close research collaborator with Harvard and Berkeley neuroscientist Terrence Deacon. Jeremy says he’s all about making advanced ideas intuitive, practical, and funny because from a natural science perspective, the human condition is pretty ironic. His latest book is called "What's up with Assholes? Advanced Psycho-Proctology For Beginners”

    Jeremy returns to the show to further expand on his insights into cult dynamics from his unique lens of evolutionary biology. Together Jeremy and Rachel survey the current sociological and political landscape sharing ideas from their respective fields.

    Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

    • 11 min
    A Little Bit Culty w/ Sarah Edmondson & Anthony "Nippy" Ames

    A Little Bit Culty w/ Sarah Edmondson & Anthony "Nippy" Ames

    Sarah Edmundson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames are survivors of the NXIVM cult and hosts of the A Little Bit Culty Podcast. They are the married couple and whistleblowers documented in the critically-acclaimed HBO series “The Vow,” Sarah and Nippy have a lot to say about their experience, and burning questions to ask people with similar stories. They’re here to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive situations one little red flag at a time. Sarah and Nippy are also both successful actors and producers. In 2019, Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life.

    In this moving and insightful conversation Sarah and Nippy look back at their intensely dramatic time as a part of NXIVM, exploring the missteps and courageous actions they took along the way. The couple share with Rachel the uniquely complex relationship dynamics they experienced while in the group and the powerful love and devotion that kept them together. They explain how their relationship offered them the strength needed to leave and ultimately put an end to NXIVM and Keith Ranerie's destructive abuses.

    Before You Go: Rachel explores NXIVM's idea of inner deficiency, comparing the problematic diagnostic techniques found in some therapeutic practices to the manipulative narratives used by cult leaders.

    For more info on Sarah and Nippy's podcast visit:
    https://www.alittlebitculty.com/

    Find more about Sarah's book here:
    https://www.sarahedmondson.com/

    You can listen to our previous episodes on NXIVM here:
    https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sets/nxivm

    Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters:
    Jamie Gunning, Brett Jellen, Gabrielle Coleman, Danielle Hirokane, Jena Higdon, Rebecca Sigel, Cecilia, The New Inquiry, Kymberley Alberts Sauer, Kristen King, Elizabeth Wolfington, Ryan Pence, Amanda Smith, Julia Colmenero-Skeaff, Niamh McGee, Jo A Gardner and, Amber Berger

    To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

    www.patreon.com/indoctrination

    Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

    www.paypal.me/indoctrination

    You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Examining The Community w/ N. Jamiyla Chisholm

    Examining The Community w/ N. Jamiyla Chisholm

    N. Jamiyla Chisholm was born in New York City and grew up in Brooklyn. She graduated from City College in New York City, received her master of arts in teaching from the University of Southern California, and received her MFA from the Writer’s Foundry at St. Joseph’s College in Brooklyn. As a journalist, Jamiyla has written countless articles focused on culture, race, and women, and she has worked with numerous media companies and publications, including COLORLINES, Essence, TIME’S UP, VIBE, and The Source. Jamiyla is an avid traveler, runner, and language learner. She lives in Brooklyn with her cat Reesies.

    Jamiyla joins Rachel to discuss her brief but impactful time living in an Islamic commune in Brooklyn run by the infamous cult leader Dwight York. In this revealing conversation, as in her new book The Community, Ms. Chisholm utilizes her skills as an experienced journalist to provide Rachel with deep insights into her early life in this high-control group. Throughout the conversation, Jamilya explains the effects of the organization's family separation policy as Rachel offers her thoughts on the devastating nature of childhood neglect that's all too common in cultic groups.

    Before You Go: Rachel focuses further on Jamiyla's admission that as a child she felt somehow at fault for being separated from her mother, explaining the long-lasting feelings of helplessness and even inferiority that often accompany these types of neglect in early childhood.

    For more information visit:
    http://www.njamiylachisholm.com

    You can find Jamilya's book here:
    https://www.amazon.com/Community-N-Jamiyla-Chisholm/dp/1542037395


    Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters:
    Aisha Mitchell Camerer, Ingrid Holm, Kirsten Blackburn, Will, Ali Vaughan, Baylie Freeman, Mavis Seehaus, Rebecca L Walter, Cat, Jessica, Julia, Jess, and Sarah O'Mahoney

    To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

    www.patreon.com/indoctrination

    Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

    www.paypal.me/indoctrination

    You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

    • 1 hr 2 min
    BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Experiencing Awe w/Dr.Yuval Laor

    BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Experiencing Awe w/Dr.Yuval Laor

    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at:
    www.patreon.com/indoctrination


    Dr. Yuval Laor is a prominent behavioral and cultural scientist who studies evolutionary biology and religion. A graduate of Tel Aviv University and specializing in religious fever and awe, he is highly influential in the world of academic cult studies.


    Yuval returns to the show to share with Rachel some of his findings on temporal lobe epilepsy and the hyper-religiosity it can induce. He goes on to explain the personality traits of those who suffer from this condition and how they coincide with those of cult leaders. Throughout the conversation, Rachel confirms some of the neurological conclusions Yuval outlines by comparing them to her own experience working with cult survivors.



    Thanks so much to our Patrons for making this episode possible!

    • 14 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
305 Ratings

305 Ratings

Bubba_Larry ,

Interesting Podcast

Not only interesting topics and guests, but the host asks insightful questions and great summaries. Important topics for these weird times we live in now.

m.i.n.i.m.a.l.i.s.t. ,

Excellent, Informative Podcast!

Love the podcast. Educating people about mind control is so important given current political & social climate. So many lost, disconnected, traumatized people being preyed on by grifters & charlatans. Not happy w/ latest emphasis on Patreon teaser Bonus episodes. While I understand need for support, if I subscribed to everything, I’d go broke. I’m sure Rachel is a great therapist. Her clients are lucky to have her support as many therapists are not well trained or trauma informed.

P.TwoBears ,

It’s a crime

Super well done. I think it would be a really good idea to do more crossover shows with true crime podcasts—I listen to a lot of them and one thing I hear over and over again is at the root of some unbelievable and unexpected crime, is a coercive person pulling everyone else’s strings. I think this is an important podcast and maybe more people would think twice if they heard the stories of how good and normal people end up committing unbelievable crimes because of stories they believed that other people told them were true.

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