Linux User Space

Linux User Space
Linux User Space

How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out! Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us. Episodes drop every other Monday.

  1. Episode 5:14: Bloat Don’t Float

    JUN 2

    Episode 5:14: Bloat Don’t Float

    Coming up in this episode * Death, DEATH, everywhere * Not so bloated, now, is it? * and Someone Agrees with US! 0:00 Cold Open 1:35 Mozilla's Making Changes... Again 24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick! 54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback -54:42 VesuLabs -1:03:02 stephenreaves3205 1:12:16 Next Time & Farewell (For Now) 1:17:38 Stinger The Video Version! https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA Mozilla Watch 👀 Pocket and Fakespot are out. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/) Readeck is a Pocket alternative (https://readeck.org/en/) Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option. Karakeep is another alternative. (https://karakeep.app/) Profiles are coming soon. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/shifting-left-for-better-accessibility/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The Season Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure The numbers ``` MacOS App 666MB Brave 451MB Discord 651MB Element 436MB Firefox 873MB GIMP 628MB Inkscape 553MB Kdenlive 451MB OBS 303MB Telegram Windows App 873MB Brave 468MB Discord 1.05GB Element 262MB Firefox 963MB GIMP 562MB Inkscape 1.02GB Kdenlive 394MB OBS 215MB Telegram Ubuntu Snap 4.0K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare5.snap 185M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave509.snap 185M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave511.snap 74M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221908.snap 74M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221963.snap 67M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24888.snap 67M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24988.snap 68M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups1100.snap 12M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center59.snap 111M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord239.snap 115M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord240.snap 172M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop148.snap 62M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-240459.snap 242M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6159.snap 242M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6198.snap 12M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater167.snap 264M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp517.snap 264M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp519.snap 517M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204202.snap 405M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-240490.snap 92M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes1535.snap 339M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape10823.snap 64M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive119.snap 319M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive120.snap 1.4G /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core2427.snap 208M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404495.snap 576M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio1302.snap 4.0K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial 15M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client104.snap 45M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd23771.snap 51M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd24505.snap 568K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration253.snap 11M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store1270.snap 446M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6597.snap 454M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6639.snap Fedora Flatpak 443 MB Brave 278 MB Discord 540 MB OBS Studio 477 MB Element 17 MB TAP-plugins 19 MB SWH 675 MB Freedesktop Platform 538 MB Mesa 538 MB Mesa (Extra) 463 MB Mesa 463 MB Mesa (Extra) 30 MB FFmpeg extension with extra codecs 790 kB openh264 789 kB openh264 256 MB GNU Image Manipulation Program 8 MB HEIC 1 GB GNOME Application Platform version 48 275 MB Inkscape 20 MB Adwaita theme 926 MB KDE Application Platform 1 GB KDE Application Platform 25 MB QGnomePlatform 3 MB QAdwaitaDecorations 241 MB Kdenlive 282 MB Firefox 256 MB Telegram 124 MB Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on ``` 5.0GB MacOS 5.8GB Windows 6.6GB Flatpak 7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback VesuLabs via email Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel. stephenreaves3205 via YouTube if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS? Or maybe just rebrand it? * The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become Android (https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time, Next Season🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback. Watch out for our return! Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 19m
  2. Episode 5:13: Sloppy AI or Good Fuzzing?

    MAY 19

    Episode 5:13: Sloppy AI or Good Fuzzing?

    Coming up in this episode * AI's Won't Take Over Yet * Is Rust Open Source? * and All Kinds of Feedback The Video Version https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA 0:00 Cold Open 3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem 25:12 A Little Viral Licensing 42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️ 42:30 ukwan / Youtube 51:16 jliljj / Youtube 56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube 1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube 1:02:06 amanita / Patreon 1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube 1:09:35 The Rules, Commands & Next Time 1:19:12 Stinger The Curl project pushes back on AI slop The Ars Technica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/) The Curl project on Hacker One (https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Is Rust opensource? Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language. (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source) Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license (https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses) Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel (https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33). Many of those involve memory corruption. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback ukwan from YouTube Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going. jliljj from YouTube I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn. FredsTech1 from YouTube Asked about unattended upgrades. Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything. The Ubuntu Docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates) siljrath from YouTube I thought I signed up. Anyone know when thundermail happens? Conan Kudo In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model. Amanita from Patreon It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good. redvamp128 from YouTube You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned! 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey Leo's list of software obs-studio discord telegram element kdenlive gimp inkscape firefox brave Some commands to help check on sizes flatpak list --app --columns=size,name flatpaklist --column=size,name du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/* 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 21m
  3. Episode 5:12: 10,000 Tabs and an Extended Warranty

    MAY 5

    Episode 5:12: 10,000 Tabs and an Extended Warranty

    Coming up in this episode * Extended service warranty for your Linux * 10,000 Tabs Made Easy! * A Chrome Firesale The Video Version (https://youtu.be/pTGaEsSA12I) https://youtu.be/pTGaEsSA12I 0:00 Cold Open 1:40 Extended Warranty for Ubuntu 17:36 Tab Groups and Unwanted Cookies 41:39 A Google Chrome Firesale! 58:33 The Science of Next Time 1:11:14 Stinger Upgrade or ESM? Why not both? This blog post (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-20-04-eol-for-devicesional) reminded Leo he needed to make a decision. Ubuntu Pro (https://ubuntu.com/pro) could let him kick the can a little. Upgrades generally go well (https://documentation.ubuntu.com/server/how-to/software/upgrade-your-release/index.html) unless you have a bunch of 3rd party repos. Always have a backup (https://rescuezilla.com) before any major changes. 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Browser Watch! Firefox brings tab groups to the browser (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/) How to get started with tab groups (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-tab-groups/) Brave browser adds Cookiecrumbler (https://brave.com/privacy-updates/33-cookiecrumbler/) Brave adds native translation (https://brave.com/blog/brave-translate-expansion/) Chrome's Privacy Sandbox is dead (https://privacysandbox.com/news/privacy-sandbox-next-steps/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Chrome breakup speculation OpenAI has expressed an interest in taking over (https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/23/openai_chrome_interest/) Perplexity and Yahoo have too (https://9to5google.com/2025/04/25/google-chrome-openai-perplexity-yahoo-antitrust-case/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey Inital systems have been setup. Leo and Dan won't necessarily be installing the same software though some may overlap. We will be keeping tabs on the sizes of just the containerized applications. 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 13m
  4. Episode 5:11: Qt Vibes and a New Standard

    APR 21

    Episode 5:11: Qt Vibes and a New Standard

    Coming up in this episode * Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You * We Need Another Standard * The Newest of the New 0:00 Cold Open 2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land 21:51 Rust Is Inevitable 41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey 1:08:25 Next Time 1:10:24 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI) https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI What a Qt little AI? Qt Blog post (https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience) Phoronoix article (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 We need another standard The XKCD cartoon (https://xkcd.com/927/) The ACM paper (https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release Ubuntu Release Announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303) Links to the Official Flavors release notes (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours) Fedora 42 and Spins release Fedora 42 Release Announcement (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/) Fedora Downloads (https://fedoraproject.org/#editions) Atomic Desktops (https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/) Spins (https://fedoraproject.org/spins) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 11m
  5. Episode 5:10: Handle With Care

    APR 7

    Episode 5:10: Handle With Care

    Coming up in this episode * The Thunder rolls * We flatten out the History * And Package Up Our Experience 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 Thundermail for Everyone! 23:21 The History of Flatpak - 24:32 From Glick to Bundles - 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app - 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U) https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U Thundermail The Thundermail announcement (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The history of flatpak packages Autopackage (https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/) Listaller (https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/) AppStream (https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/) The roots (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/) Klik (https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/) Rethinking the Linux distribution (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/) Flatpak 4 years in (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/) Goodbye xdg-app, hello Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) Initial Flatpak press release (https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) KDE's Discover found its support of Flatpak (https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/) Firefox begins Flatpak builds (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59) OBS begins Flatpak builds too (https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/) Thunderbird gets official support (https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Extra Flatpak Resources https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/ https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/ https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920 https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/ https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/ https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 7m
  6. Episode 5:09: So, Just Better Words?

    MAR 24

    Episode 5:09: So, Just Better Words?

    Coming up in this episode * Oh GNOME! * Mozilla, Don't Watch * And a few high notes The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo) https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo 0:00 Cold Open 1:07 Dash To Panel Needs Your Help! 27:21 Firefox's New Terms Of Use 51:33 Mark / Contact Button 1:00:34 Scott / Contact Button 1:03:22 Dan / Matrix 1:06:09 chraist / Matrix 1:08:07 bgt lover / Matrix 1:10:00 MarshMan / Discord 1:13:58 Next Time! 1:18:45 Stinger Dash to Panel Maintainer Quits Dash to panel maintainer quits (https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/14/dashtopanel_maintainer_quits/) The GitHub issue (https://github.com/home-sweet-gnome/dash-to-panel/issues/2259) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Mozilla Don't Watch The Terms (https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/firefox/) The Blog (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/) The Linux Experiment and Ryan Sipes (https://tilvids.com/w/ssV7mEKnwhFfJhnxSWGCTk) The Update to the TOU (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/) The old FAQ (https://web.archive.org/web/20250130114707/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/) The new FAQ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback Mark from Saigon Mark advocates for trying Snaps but understands they are not for everyone. He then dragged us into a merchandise tangent. Stay tuned for more on that. Scott via Fireside Scott uses Snaps on his Debian server. On the desktop he mostly sticks to Appimages and Flatpaks. Dan from Matrix Dan seldom uses Snaps and has them near the bottom of his ranking. The last one he remembers using is the Nextcloud snap on an Ubuntu server. chraist also on Matrix chraist uses Void and doesn't have Systemd therefore doesn't use Snaps. He asked if we thought there would ever be a Snap solution without Systemd. bgt from Matrix bgt says "meh, snaps aren't really that worth it to be honest. If there was no flatpak, sure, but like this, there's no need." Marshman from Discord Marshman thinks Snaps are a handy delivery method for proprietary applications. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history of Flatpaks. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 20m
  7. Episode 5:08: Make It Snappy

    MAR 10

    Episode 5:08: Make It Snappy

    Coming up in this episode * Syncing the Notes * The History of Snaps * And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 Seeking Syncthing 16:42 The History of Snaps 33:52 How'd 9 Years of Snaps Go? 1:01:54 Next Time 1:04:49 Stinger The Video Version https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw It is all about the notes Leo goes back to basics and uses SyncThing (https://syncthing.net/) to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard text editor (https://code.visualstudio.com/). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The history of snap packages Ubuntu's convergence promise (https://web.archive.org/web/20160531204608/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820). Click apps (https://click.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) Snappy Ubuntu (https://youtu.be/BlcTDz9ogug) Click apps and Snappy apps share update technology (https://web.archive.org/web/20141209165441/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434). Snappy Ubuntu Core was available (https://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-launches-with-support-for-openstack-kilo-new-lxd-hypervisor-and-snappy-core/) Snapcraft was released as version 2.0 (https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/2.0). Snaps were now available (https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-for-classic-ubuntu) to everyone. Mozilla chimed in (https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/) with their support. Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of Arch (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format) and Fedora (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IMI5TP2K6A6R7PSIOUBLOE62ENIZDXOA/). xdg-app rebrands as Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) as a Snap competitor. Unity 8 and Snaps were expected for 18.04 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-17.04-Unity-8-Snaps-Talk) The backporting of Snaps to 14.04 (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-snap-apps-ubuntu-14-04) was a success. Fedora (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/use-snap-fedora) saw that promised Snap support land. Mark Shuttleworth made a game changing announcement (https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence). An effort (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-platform-snap-development) to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded. The first Snap-installed-by-default shipped (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-17-10-will-ship-a-snap-by-default/15064) with Ubuntu MATE 17.10. The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default got louder (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html). Mozilla authors their own Snap package (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available). Snap devs finally started their efforts (https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/03/28/snap-startup-time-improvements) to slim down the startup times. Canonical's announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-chromium-browser-deb-to-snap-transition/11179) that Chromium would switch to a Snap. Linux Mint forges their own path (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3766). Additionally, they blocked (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906) the snapd backend. The dev team speeds startup times further (https://snapcraft.io/blog/snap-speed-improvements-with-new-compression-algorithm). Snaps killed (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-6.0-Coming) their 32-bit support. Mozilla Firefox would now also be snap-only (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default). The introduction of modularity (https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-future-of-snapcraft). More LZO compression (https://ubuntu.com//blog/kde-snaps-performance-revving-up) Mozilla Firefox improves (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2) Ubuntu Flavors no longer seed the Flatpak backend (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default) More rumblings (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) about the all snap Ubuntu. Those rumblings were squashed (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-delayed). Snap compatibility get stronger (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/canonical-wants-better-snap-support-outside-ubuntu-based-on-latest-hires/) KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-September). more drivers are Snapped (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snaps-Intel-NPU-Driver). Some exploits (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw) and maybe a few flaws (https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6940-2). 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Extra Snap Resources Click Apps (https://askubuntu.com/questions/337969/what-are-click-packages) Snappy Ubuntu! (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212513/http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/) Snappy security (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212810/https://penguindroppings.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/snappy-security/) It's a Snap (https://web.archive.org/web/20150207153458/http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/its-a-snap.html) Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap) Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/firefox-ubuntu-snap-package) Debs aren't going anywhere... (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-16.04-Snap-Deb) xdg-portal and snap collab? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/XDG-Desktop-Portal-Snapped) Snap store (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start) Another Chromium push (https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition) LZO compression time (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Canonical-Snap-LZO) and (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/squashfs-performance-effect-on-snap-startup-time/13920) Snapcraft changes (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-New-Modular) April - Ubuntu Won't Support Flatpak (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon) Mozilla's snap pushes back 22.04.1 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-22.04.1-LTS-Delayed) Firefox Snap Performance part 1 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1) Firefox Snap Performance part 2 (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2) 50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Snap-50p-Reduction) Flapak is out, Snap is still in (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default) An immutable Snap desktop? (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/cups-snap-ubuntu-23-10#comment-6196766355) and (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) also (https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-core-desktop) Malicious Snap Apps (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snap-Store-Malicious-Apps) Thunderbird (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/thunderbird-snap-in-ubuntu-24-04) Another Exploit (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw) And another? (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/ubuntu-will-manually-review-snap-store-after-crypto-wallet-scams/) Better Cross Distro Support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Better-Cross-Distro-Snaps) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 7m
  8. Episode 5:07: Kernel Overload

    FEB 24

    Episode 5:07: Kernel Overload

    Coming up in this episode * We load up your tech toolbox * We settle the Kernel debate * and Thou shall not package OBS... that way. 0:00 Cold Open 1:39 We load up your tech toolbox 21:48 We settle the kernel debate 49:43 Thou shall not package OBS... that way. 1:03:32 Next Time 1:07:26 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/15zr84iGDHo) https://youtu.be/15zr84iGDHo IT-Tools (https://it-tools.tech/) Can be self hosted (https://github.com/CorentinTh/it-tools) Do you use IT-Tools? If so, which ones? If you don't, would you? 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Maintaining the Linux Kernel Rust for Linux project (https://rust-for-linux.com/) The controversial patch for more Rust driver support (https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/1/8/801). Wedson Filho called it quits (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@gmail.com/) in August of 2024. Hector Martin (https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-lead/) calls it quits for the Asahi Linux project on February 14, 2025. Karol Herbst (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html) is another domino to fall February 15, 2025. Greg K-H's reply on the LKML (https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2025021954-flaccid-pucker-f7d9@gregkh/) ArsTecnica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/linux-leaders-pave-a-path-for-rust-in-kernel-while-supporting-c-veterans/) Phoronix article (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Torvalds-Override-On-Rust-Code) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Thou shall not package OBS... that way. Fedora Pagure Issue (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/463) Fedora Flatpak SIG issue - Gitlab (https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues/39) Updated Fedora Council docs PR (https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/pull-request/244) Gaming on Linux coverage (https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/fedora-threatened-with-legal-action-from-obs-studio-due-to-their-flatpak-packaging/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

    1h 9m
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How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out! Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us. Episodes drop every other Monday.

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    2020 - 2025
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